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95% of those that weren't fired are going to quit.
never in my life have i see someone completely destroy a company so quickly. it's amazing to watch

And I can't get over how it started because some people were tweeting pictures of his receding hairline and one kid wrote a bot to track where his private jet was.

They will be studying this moron in business classes for centuries.
 

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95% of those that weren't fired are going to quit.
never in my life have i see someone completely destroy a company so quickly. it's amazing to watch

Nothing is funnier than the Musk dick riders on the twitter defending this action.
And they like to call everyone that is work from home a lazy woke snowflake libtard.

Seriously how stupid is it to lower productivity, especially in the Bay Area by making people commute 2 hours to work in a shitty cube for 8 hours.
 

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Seriously how stupid is it to lower productivity, especially in the Bay Area by making people commute 2 hours to work in a shitty cube for 8 hours.

I was let go (I guess you could say forced out) of a company a little over two years ago mainly because a) I guess I was rocking the boat too much questioning the asinine way things were being done and b) I asked to work two days remote. I worked for the company 10 years and put in a lot of free overtime (even though I was a consultant with a hourly rate). Never more productive then when I was working remote.

/Best thing that could have happened in retrospect.
 

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I was let go (I guess you could say forced out) of a company a little over two years ago mainly because they a) I guess I was rocking the boat too much questioning the asinine way things were being done and b) I asked to work two days remote. I worked for the company 10 years and put in a lot of free overtime (even though I was a consultant with a hourly rate). Never more productive than was I working remote.

/Best thing that could have happened in retrospect.
With my travel and the office being in a different part of the country I have essentially been remote for almost 20 years. I am not sure if I could ever go work in an office full time.

I do know where the one office is in Alpharetta GA there is a TON of empty office space now, and I doubt it will ever get used again.
 

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I do know where the one office is in Alpharetta GA there is a TON of empty office space now, and I doubt it will ever get used again.

Imagine if you converted some of that empty office space into affordable housing for low income and homeless people. Get people off the streets and into a nice sheltered place.

/Sorry, that's my caring socialist thinking coming out, my bad.
 

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With my travel and the office being in a different part of the country I have essentially been remote for almost 20 years. I am not sure if I could ever go work in an office full time.

I do know where the one office is in Alpharetta GA there is a TON of empty office space now, and I doubt it will ever get used again.
I was completely remote for about 5 years then took a new job where I was in the office 8 years until Covid hit. Now I am kind of looking for a new job (like the company, like some of the work, distrust and do not like my manager and salary) but I have been picky because we now only need to go into the office as needed. And from the plans for my building I know there are no plans to ever bring us back full time.

I just have issues with being on the road 2+ hours a day. I just get miserable sitting in traffic. So unless a job is very local or states it allows remote work I am not interested in it. Unless of course something happened and I needed a job quickly.
 

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Imagine if you converted some of that empty office space into affordable housing for low income and homeless people. Get people off the streets and into a nice sheltered place.

/Sorry, that's my caring socialist thinking coming out, my bad.
Funny I think the same way just like all those empty retail/mall spaces.
 

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I was let go (I guess you could say forced out) of a company a little over two years ago mainly because a) I guess I was rocking the boat too much questioning the asinine way things were being done and b) I asked to work two days remote. I worked for the company 10 years and put in a lot of free overtime (even though I was a consultant with a hourly rate). Never more productive then when I was working remote.

/Best thing that could have happened in retrospect.
I wasn't sure i would adapt to a remote model, but it's been great. I Have been fortunate that 2 of the 3 bosses I have had in the time haven't been "chained to the desk between x and x times" types. If the work gets done and incidents are handled that's what they care about. So if I need to get a Dr Appt in the middle of the day it's no biggie. My job does require me to occasionally put hands on physical devices and disassemble to investigate them so I do still go into the office sometimes, which I like for the ability to break up a week. We coordinate so I have human interaction while there which is also good.

Didn't realize how much I missed just sitting down for lunch with people.
 

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Nothing is funnier than the Musk dick riders on the twitter defending this action.
And they like to call everyone that is work from home a lazy woke snowflake libtard.

Seriously how stupid is it to lower productivity, especially in the Bay Area by making people commute 2 hours to work in a shitty cube for 8 hours.
It's funny. A sizeable part of my job is to investigate insider threats. People with elevated access that may develop malicious intent and seek to do the company harm. We look for patterns of behaviour and analyze the severity and react accordingly to (hopefully) minimize damage.

I can't imagine what kind of shit show it would be if the fucking CEO was the threat. And I can't stress enough how fucking close I was to working there.
 

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I can't imagine what kind of shit show it would be if the fucking CEO was the threat.
would make your job very very easy when he announces each nefarious deed very publicly and very proudly.


the comedy of errors has really been remarkable. just from the top of my head:

- announces "I'm buying twitter for$44 Billion." A week later tries to back out, saying "It's not worth that much". Note that if he tried to back out for anything other than misrepresentation from the company, it would be a very serious SEC violation.
- there was also a $1Billion break-up fee if he didn't go through with transaction
- can't prove impropriety from Twitter, forced to buy it at stated price.
- had to bring in Saudis to fund, as he didn't have the money
- cratered tesla's share price as he had to sell $4billion of it to raise his portion

- immediate acts like an idiot (surprise), and loses several major advertisers, thus lowering the value further

- blue check mark fiasco, thereby making verification completely meaningless, devaluing the platform further

- fires half of the staff with very, very little efficiency review
- realizes THE NEXT DAY that, holy shit, he needs some of those people. Listed jobs the following day number in the several hundreds.
- pisses off the remaining employees by threatening to remove remote work. Exacerbated by the fact, these particular skill sets are mostly incredibly portable.


the incredibly funny thing is, with all of the value destruction he has caused, he would have been much better off just taking the hit on the $1Billion break-up fee.
now he is indebted to the Saudis for an asset who's value is plummeting. By any metric, he would be underwater on his portion already
 

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I wasn't sure i would adapt to a remote model, but it's been great. I Have been fortunate that 2 of the 3 bosses I have had in the time haven't been "chained to the desk between x and x times" types. If the work gets done and incidents are handled that's what they care about. So if I need to get a Dr Appt in the middle of the day it's no biggie. My job does require me to occasionally put hands on physical devices and disassemble to investigate them so I do still go into the office sometimes, which I like for the ability to break up a week. We coordinate so I have human interaction while there which is also good.

Didn't realize how much I missed just sitting down for lunch with people.
If I was 5-10 minutes away from my office I'd probably prefer to go in, at least most days.
 

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the incredibly funny thing is, with all of the value destruction he has caused, he would have been much better off just taking the hit on the $1Billion break-up fee.
now he is indebted to the Saudis for an asset who's value is plummeting. By any metric, he would be underwater on his portion already
The art of the deal (tm)
 

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the incredibly funny thing is, with all of the value destruction he has caused, he would have been much better off just taking the hit on the $1Billion break-up fee.
now he is indebted to the Saudis for an asset who's value is plummeting. By any metric, he would be underwater on his portion already
and would have been even better off if he had just shut the fuck up in the first place. lol
 
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