Coffee Talk V: The Final Battle

[elocomotive]

Who is censoring you?

He might be the My Pillow guy.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Who is censoring you?

Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, this site, the US Government, Leftists that I try to reason with, etc..

 

[elocomotive]

Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, this site, the US Government, Leftists that I try to reason with, etc..

Saying your arguments are stupid is not censorship. You're thinking of sensiBLE.

But I would love to hear the story of how the US Government censored you.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

I agree I think it's time to think about scaling back on masks because people are either vaxed at this point or not, but saying they don't help overall is factually incorrect and ridiculous. Masks do mitigate spread, but there are multiple factors to consider in you saying we are one of the least to still use them. Part of that is because we have been one of the worst nations in handling this pandemic partly BECAUSE so many people have not been masked or can't figure out how to where them correctly. All you have to do is look at the data - places like the Dakotas where they don't wear masks and where the low density should mean reduced spread have had TERRIBLE per capita rates. So let's start with the fact that the premise of your argument is wrong.

Saying vaccines are not helpful also ignores very basic scientific and historical data. Know anyone with polio lately? If people like and fringe media had been around back then you probably would.

So it's not even worth debating the nuance of these arguments with someone who can't even accept basic facts about them in the first place. It's not irrational fear. It's fact-based and I don't think it comes from fear at all but empathy. I still wear a mask to the store or heavily trafficked public places because I don't want to hurt the vulnerable segments of my own community and I care about other people. I have a person I work with who has cancer, so I try to mitigate my own risks for the sake of him and others like him. Put another way, it's the Christian thing to do.

So it's ironic that the supposedly "Christian" regions of our country (South, midwest, plains) have had the most struggles with COVID and acting in Christian ways. These are among the least educated/literate portions of the country, so it's not some big surprise they (like you) have found themselves to absurd conspiracy theories that conveniently explain away their own shitty and unempathetic behavior while lambasting who?.... doctors and nurses who are educated and have dedicated their lives to saving the lives of others? Dr Fauci who has tons of money and is old as hell? The private equity firms? Wouldn't exposing an ICU shortage in critical times lose them money by a public wanting more investment in our health infrastructure?

I'm sorry you care so little for others in your community. I'm sorry a piece of paper is such a burden for you, snowflake.

Spoiler

Wow, your exposing your lack of education and your being a dupe who just swallows what Big Brother feeds you.


Do you know how much money Big Pharma made off of these vaccines?

Do you know how many people have been pushed down into poverty since the start of the lockdowns, by the lockdowns? 500+ million.

Do you even know the #s? I don't believe that you do.

Do you have any evidence to prove that the states that didn't mandate masks or lockdowns had the worst covid rates? Because I don't believe you. I think you just believe what you heard on CNN or MSNBC.

Do you even know what a vaccine is? What it does? How it works? Because what we are being pressured into taking right now for covid is nothing like the polio vaccine. The Polio vaccine went through rigorous testing and it ENDS it. You get the vaccine, you don't get polio and you don't spread it.
You get this covid vaccine and you STILL GET COVID and YOU STILL SPREAD IT and you STILL DIE FROM IT, just not as much. Getting the vaccine simply LESSENS the harshness of the symptoms WHEN YOU GET IT and improves your chances if you are a vulnerable person of surviving it.

But getting it INCREASES your chances of suffering from myocharditus(sp?) And lockdowns INCREASE the chances of the otherwise not vulnerable dying from a variety of other things. Don't you care about the young people who committed suicide or who were murdered or the many among the 120+ million shoved down into extreme poverty who might have died from starvation or other ailments helped along by lack of proper nutrition? You don't care about all of the people who suffered from the effects of the rise in alcohol use and abuse, and the effects of the rise in depression and the rise in drug use and the rise in violence among everyone everywhere?

Don't you care about the children who are going to suffer long term effects from this? Their lives, their futures, will have been negatively affected FOREVER, some may never fully recover, others will, but not before suffering first. I just heard someone talking about how masked children's facial muscles are not developing right?



And you try to claim all vax leary people are not educated? Dude, there are lots of Doctors and PhDs and Nurses who opted out of getting vaccinated. Are you honestly that dumb?


And Blacks are very leary of them because they learned the hard way that the US Govt can't be trusted.



You do know that the FDA gets around 45% of their funding from Big Pharma, right? And the Media outlets that pimp Vaccines are getting millions upon millions from Big Pharma. Bill Gates shut down a University that wanted to give out the vaccine information for free, because he was a huge donor to the school and pressured them not to give it away, why? So he and his Big Pharma buddies could rake in the profits.


This is the largest transfer of wealth from the bottom upwards to the top in the history of mankind and you are cheering on the rich bastards doing the taking?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Saying your arguments are stupid is not censorship. You're thinking of sensiBLE.

That's just it, duh. They don't just respond with, "those arguments are stupid". They ban them, block them, delete them, etc.. How is it you are not aware of this? Oh, I forgot, you are on the side of those doing all the censoring, so they don't bother with you. Why would they, you kiss their arses and you bow to all of their decrees and pronouncements. You are a good lackey, a "useful idiot" cannon fodder for the Rich Elitists.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Saying your arguments are stupid is not censorship. You're thinking of sensiBLE.

But I would love to hear the story of how the US Government censored you.

I'd be pleased to show you all the evidence. But right now I have to go out and shovel several feet of snow!!!

 

[thedddd]

Love it when piles of shit show their true colors.


I really wish when he said "do you know who I am?" she should have said no. That would have set him off.

 

[elocomotive]

Wow, your exposing your lack of education and your being a dupe who just swallows what Big Brother feeds you.

Do you know how much money Big Pharma made off of these vaccines?
Do you know how many people have been pushed down into poverty since the start of the lockdowns, by the lockdowns? 500+ million.
Do you even know the #s? I don't believe that you do.

Do you have any evidence to prove that the states that didn't mandate masks or lockdowns had the worst covid rates? Because I don't believe you. I think you just believe what you heard on CNN or MSNBC.

Sure, right here. I see your dumb home county has done a terrible job this pandemic because the data is easily and widely available. You'll probably tell me next about the nefarious plot of Johns Hopkins for some reason.

Making money off something doesn't mean it can't have positive effects. We live in a capitalistic society. Pharmaceutical companies also produced the polio vaccine. And this vaccine isn't new, they've been developing research on similar strains for two decades.

Social stratification has and will continue to be a huge social problem, but the 500 million number is a world number with many factors. And yes, I'm highly educated, which is why I understand you can't jump back and forth between country and world issues without examining different factual bases. Also, the vaccines have been free to most and support for the unemployed has been high, so if the "goal" of the pandemic (as if this was the first or a surprise in a world with tons of world travel) was creating more poverty here, why would we respond in that way? Doesn't add up.

 

[thedddd]

Man getting Ted Kazynski vibes these days.


Also @elocomotive do your own research and look it up!

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Spoiler

A conspiracy theory needs to be unprovable. When someone has the proof or evidence to back up their claims, it's no longer a conspiracy theory.

The Great Reset, for example. 20 years ago it was labeled a conspiracy theory. Now, after decades of the Leftists/Globalists winning and gaining control over key areas needed for taking control of the world population, they are now coming out publicly admitting to it's existence, books have been written laying out their entire plan. You can see them in videos explaining their plans.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy" Sound familiar?

The Lab Leak "theory", is not just a theory anymore.

The conspiracy to smear the Govt's chosen path to fight covid headed by Fauci, by Fauci, got exposed. They dug up the emails, we KNOW FOR A FACT that Fauci conspired to smear those who disagreed with him about lockdowns being the best option.

Fauci lied to Congress, this is a well known fact.

 

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Man getting Ted Kazynski vibes these days.


Also @elocomotive do your own research and look it up!

I think all his evidence is in Rudy Giuliani's office (or at Four Seasons Landscaping).

 

[elocomotive]

That's just it, duh. They don't just respond with, "those arguments are stupid". They ban them, block them, delete them, etc.. How is it you are not aware of this? Oh, I forgot, you are on the side of those doing all the censoring, so they don't bother with you. Why would they, you kiss their arses and you bow to all of their decrees and pronouncements. You are a good lackey, a "useful idiot" cannon fodder for the Rich Elitists.

Lol. I'm barely on any social media and I don't contribute to political campaigns, so I'm not sure how I'm kissing anyone's ass. I kiss the ass of my local food bank, animal welfare organizations, an organization that supports refugees, and a mental health organization.

I'm a "useful idiot" to them.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Sure, right here. I see your dumb home county has done a terrible job this pandemic because the data is easily and widely available. You'll probably tell me next about the nefarious plot of Johns Hopkins for some reason.

Making money off something doesn't mean it can't have positive effects. We live in a capitalistic society. Pharmaceutical companies also produced the polio vaccine. And this vaccine isn't new, they've been developing research on similar strains for two decades.

Social stratification has and will continue to be a huge social problem, but the 500 million number is a world number with many factors. And yes, I'm highly educated, which is why I understand you can't jump back and forth between country and world issues without examining different factual bases. Also, the vaccines have been free to most and support for the unemployed has been high, so if the "goal" of the pandemic (as if this was the first or a surprise in a world with tons of world travel) was creating more poverty here, why would we respond in that way? Doesn't add up.

Free for most where? Here in Rich America. Same with the unemployment aid. Which has done made people lazy, now a lot of people don't want to go back to work.


The majority of that 500+ million are from other countries who depend heavily on Western Countries. So when RICH western countries lock down for most of 2 years, we can survive as we were rich to start out. Not those lesser countries with less resources who have little to fall back on when things get shut down.

 

[thedddd]

I think all his evidence is in Rudy Giuliani's office (or at Four Seasons Landscaping).

See that is how he got us. He used that as a front since he was actually hiding the evidence at the dildo shop next door.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

And the vaccines aren't free for Americans, duh. We pay for them with our taxes. How else do you think Big Pharma made 3 times more than the entire music industry makes in a year, in just 2020???

 

[elocomotive]

Free for most where? Here in Rich America. Same with the unemployment aid. Which has done made people lazy, now a lot of people don't want to go back to work.

Uh... unemployment is at 4%.

Who are these lazy people you are talking about? ...What do they look like?

 

[elocomotive]

And the vaccines aren't free for Americans, duh. We pay for them with our taxes. How else do you think Big Pharma made 3 times more than the entire music industry makes in a year, in just 2020???

Yeah, but the poorest people don't pay taxes, so those in poverty aren't paying for them. And that was your original argument, so.... you're arguing against yourself now to some degree.

I don't mind personally paying for it for other people through taxes or otherwise. Seems like a nice, Christian thing to do for others to me.

That's great news on the music industry. I didn't think they were even still around. 1/3 of Big Pharma ain't bad, fellas. Big ups!

 

[Groo]

And the vaccines aren't free for Americans, duh. We pay for them with our taxes. How else do you think Big Pharma made 3 times more than the entire music industry makes in a year, in just 2020???

The music industry?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Lol. I'm barely on any social media and I don't contribute to political campaigns, so I'm not sure how I'm kissing anyone's ass. I kiss the ass of my local food bank, animal welfare organizations, an organization that supports refugees, and a mental health organization.

I'm a "useful idiot" to them.

Who do you vote for, with your electoral votes and your dollar votes?

 

[elocomotive]

Who do you vote for, with your electoral votes and your dollar votes?

So did China and Big Pharma work together on this? I'm gonna run to the store - we're gonna need LOTS of yarn for this! Get that shoveling done... we've got work to do!!!