Coffee Talk V: The Final Battle

[Comeds]

No death threats yet buddy, I must be getting soft in my old age.

Yeah, youre much more closer to nice than you used to be.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I shit my pants for this guy.

 

[dash]

The prosecutor's pun game is strong...

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I thought about deleting some of those posts, but I think the stupidity displayed needs to remain for all to see lol

Letting people learn from other's stupidity is wise.

(Am I doing this right?)

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

The participants of the Boston Tea Party, today, would be labeled as terrorists. In fact, all of the American Founders would as well.

Just something to ponder.

 

[dash]

Good thread and just a reminder that impacting other's peoples health for your perceived loss of freedoms is not okay.

Just something to ponder.

 

[elocomotive]

I shit my pants for this guy.

Yeah, wow. I've certainly been in meetings where I've thought 'if I speak my real opinion, I may be viewed disfavorably' but that's a big step up from thinking 'if i share my real opinion, I'm likely dead.'

 

[dash]

Yeah, wow. I've certainly been in meetings where I've thought 'if I speak my real opinion, I may be viewed disfavorably' but that's a big step up from thinking 'if i share my real opinion, I'm likely dead.'

"Hey eloco, can I see you by this open window?"

 

[Comeds]

Yeah, wow. I've certainly been in meetings where I've thought 'if I speak my real opinion, I may be viewed disfavorably' but that's a big step up from thinking 'if i share my real opinion, I'm likely dead.'

"Hey eloco, can I see you by this open window?"

Who wants a nice bowl of soup?

 

[puckhead]

lol

 

[dash]

lol

Pat sounds a lot like tennis player Danill Medvedev would say a small cat.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

 

[dash]

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Spoiler

Just a reminder that impacting someone's concrete and lawful freedoms and their livelihood for YEARS over a perceived supposed threat to everyone's(?) health that needs big pharma funded news media to help fear monger and that needs Government officials to conspire to smear opposition opinions so that they can also fear monger to help boost the profits of their big pharma friends while gaining more power and control and money for themselves.

Two weeks to flatten the curve???

That is only 2% true.

But when did the truth ever factor into this whole thing?

The Virus origins are suspicious and compromised.

China has been compromised and suspicious for decades.

The WHO was compromised from the start with the head being a China puppet.

The CDC is compromised.

The FDA is compromised.

Fauci is compromised.

The Press that passes on the information to the public is compromised.

The Governments that regulate and coordinate all of the research are partisan and compromised.

Name me a Politician who hasn't been caught going maskless or participating in crowded events of some kind. They don't even believe their own fear mongering. They are compromised.

Name me a single Politician who has advocated for any common sense prevention measures or therapies such as losing weight, getting fresh air and exercise, boosting our immune systems?

And if you are not aware of any of what I have listed above or believe it's just some whacked conspiracy sh1t, that just proves that you listened to/looked to/gullibly trusted either compromised state media or leftist mainstream media for your covid related information and advice and instruction. Hence, you've been duped. Everything I listed can be verified or has been exposed to be factual or at least very believable. The Lab Leak theory, for so long mocked as conspiracy mumbo jumbo, has been found to be more than plausible. Fauci, the puppy torturer and murderer. is a serial liar and has been exposed as taking part in a smear campaign against experts whose opinion differed from his. He lied about masks, either initially or later when he changed his tune, he lied to Congress about Gain of Function research, etc..

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Spoiler

Lockdowns did little to slow the spread of covid but did much to increase the # of people living in poverty around the world. That number has risen to over 500 million now. 120 million have been shoved down into extreme poverty. How many people around the world have died of starvation/hunger or starvation related illnesses?

How many died of alcohol abuse related incidents? How many died of drug abuse related incidents? How many died from mental health issue related incidents? How many innocent victims have died as a result in the rises in violent crime due in part to the Govt's draconian Covid over reaction/response? How much long term damage has been done to our children? Mask mandates and vaccination mandates for children has never been based on the science, it's been nothing less than widespread child abuse.

 

[elocomotive]

Mask mandates and vaccination mandates for children has never been based on the science, it's been nothing less than widespread child abuse.

Dramatic and conspiracy theory much. And you're wrong about it not slowing COVID. Check standard procedure in any hospital if you think they don't have any impact. There's a big difference between "the CDC should have done a better job" and being "compromised." Go peddle crazy somewhere else. We have smart ones around here.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Dramatic and conspiracy theory much. And you're wrong about it not slowing COVID. Check standard procedure in any hospital if you think they don't have any impact. There's a big difference between "the CDC should have done a better job" and being "compromised." Go peddle crazy somewhere else. We have smart ones around here.

Spoiler

Ah, one who trusts Big Brother, a Branch Covidian you must be?!

Nothing crazy about anything I've posted. Stop believing the liars who are making BILLIONS in profits off of the vaccines. They are telling lies and you believe them like a dupe and they make BILLIONS and 500+ million others around the world fall into poverty???

Did you know America is one of JUST SEVEN countries in the whole world who is still requiring masks for school children? The chances of children transmitting Covid is almost nil. So forcing them to mask for an entire school day is child abuse. There is no science to back up requiring children to be masked or vaccinated.


What is the chance that ANYONE, including the elderly and the really sick and the obese out there, who are vaccinated, of just being hospitalized from covid? Do you even know? Most Leftists polled have shown that they think it's 10-100 times worse than it is. That is from their being fear mongered by the leftist press and Govts. The hospitalization rate of the vaccinated, last I heard, was something like .092%, so less than 1 in every thousand and just 1 in every 112 UNvaccinated people who get covid will have to go to the hospital, and most going to the hospital don't die, and those numbers were BEFORE omicron came around. Omicron is so much more infectious and so much milder that the hospitalization rate has to have dropped even more, And that is including everyone. If you filtered out those over the age of 70, the obese and those with multiple co-morbidities, who we all know are vulnerable and who no one objected to protecting, and then redid the math, it would lessen the chances significantly more for the rest of us who are relatively healthy. And if you filtered out everyone over 18, the chances of school aged children having to go to the hospital is so miniscule it's almost zero!!! So why mask or vaccine children? It's not for their protection, obviously, it's to protect selfish teachers who are almost always far leftists and hence much more easily duped by the fear mongering. Or maybe it's to protect their parents? So we torture our children to protect us from a miniscule chance of our having to go to the hospital??? Again, child abuse. SELFISH and born out of an irrational fear. You all are PHOBICS. Scared of a basically harmless virus(the omicron version) that kills almost exclusively the very old or the very sick. Earlier variants were less harmless, but still hardly worthy of pandemic level reactions. They had to exaggerate the truth, they had to predict high death rates to scare us all into cooperation, they promised it would only last 2 weeks, and only to flatten the curve, so as not to overwhelm the hospitals.

But NONE of their predictions have come even close to being accurate. And it's not been 2 weeks, but 2 YEARS. And why does this last? Did you know not one single hospital bed been added since the beginning of covid? Where did all that money go? Prior to Covid, in 2018, there was a wave of flu that overwhelmed the hospitals and they were having to put up tents to take care of these flu patients. Why? The answer was a lack of enough ICU hospital beds to handle the surge. Why was there a lack of ICU beds in hospitals? Because they are not cost effective. Most/many hospitals are run by private equity firms, so the doctors don't even work for the hospitals, but for the private equity firms and these firms are profit based and so they didn't buy more ICU beds prior to 2018, nor did they invest in buying more after that flu surge, and they haven't invested in a single new ICU bed since then, either. They don't care if we had to go TWO YEARS to flatten the curve instead of 2 weeks so that they didn't have to lose money on investing in more ICU beds. So all of us suffer so that the rich can get richer, and dupes like you cheer them on and vote them into office, and bow to all of their draconian demands, like good cannon fodder, like a good "useful idiot".

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Spoiler

Didn't the Canadian Civil Liberties Union denounce the enactment of the NEVER BEFORE utilized Emergency Act???

Didn't Ottawa Cops get caught laughing at protesters who got injured by their aggressive actions against them???

Didn't Emperor Trudeau take a knee in a sign of support for BLM, while choosing instead of immediately viciously attack everyone involved in the Convoy from it's very beginning?

Didn't Emperor Trudeau accuse a Jewish member of Parliament of standing with people who wave swastikas? So he's proven he's willing to judge huge portions of his country for the actions of one bad apple as long as they are not a Leftist then he wouldn't even criticize that one bad apple, much less the larger group repped by, say, a large BLM or Antifa protest with people not directly involved with either group also being involved. Totally hypocritical, totally partisan, very much the actions of an authoritarian despot/dictator.



So you like your Emperor having the ability to free the bank accounts of anyone whose opinion he doesn't like? That's a dangerous precedent he is setting and you are embracing.

 

[scoutyjones2]

That is what Fascists do, they censor anyone who objects to them imposing their views upon EVERYONE by gunpoint if they don't swallow the bs.

Who is censoring you?

 

[elocomotive]

Spoiler

Ah, one who trusts Big Brother, a Branch Covidian you must be?!

Nothing crazy about anything I've posted. Stop believing the liars who are making BILLIONS in profits off of the vaccines. They are telling lies and you believe them like a dupe and they make BILLIONS and 500+ million others around the world fall into poverty???

Did you know America is one of JUST SEVEN countries in the whole world who is still requiring masks for school children? The chances of children transmitting Covid is almost nil. So forcing them to mask for an entire school day is child abuse. There is no science to back up requiring children to be masked or vaccinated.


What is the chance that ANYONE, including the elderly and the really sick and the obese out there, who are vaccinated, of just being hospitalized from covid? Do you even know? Most Leftists polled have shown that they think it's 10-100 times worse than it is. That is from their being fear mongered by the leftist press and Govts. The hospitalization rate of the vaccinated, last I heard, was something like .092%, so less than 1 in every thousand and just 1 in every 112 UNvaccinated people who get covid will have to go to the hospital, and most going to the hospital don't die, and those numbers were BEFORE omicron came around. Omicron is so much more infectious and so much milder that the hospitalization rate has to have dropped even more, And that is including everyone. If you filtered out those over the age of 70, the obese and those with multiple co-morbidities, who we all know are vulnerable and who no one objected to protecting, and then redid the math, it would lessen the chances significantly more for the rest of us who are relatively healthy. And if you filtered out everyone over 18, the chances of school aged children having to go to the hospital is so miniscule it's almost zero!!! So why mask or vaccine children? It's not for their protection, obviously, it's to protect selfish teachers who are almost always far leftists and hence much more easily duped by the fear mongering. Or maybe it's to protect their parents? So we torture our children to protect us from a miniscule chance of our having to go to the hospital??? Again, child abuse. SELFISH and born out of an irrational fear. You all are PHOBICS. Scared of a basically harmless virus(the omicron version) that kills almost exclusively the very old or the very sick. Earlier variants were less harmless, but still hardly worthy of pandemic level reactions. They had to exaggerate the truth, they had to predict high death rates to scare us all into cooperation, they promised it would only last 2 weeks, and only to flatten the curve, so as not to overwhelm the hospitals.

But NONE of their predictions have come even close to being accurate. And it's not been 2 weeks, but 2 YEARS. And why does this last? Did you know not one single hospital bed been added since the beginning of covid? Where did all that money go? Prior to Covid, in 2018, there was a wave of flu that overwhelmed the hospitals and they were having to put up tents to take care of these flu patients. Why? The answer was a lack of enough ICU hospital beds to handle the surge. Why was there a lack of ICU beds in hospitals? Because they are not cost effective. Most/many hospitals are run by private equity firms, so the doctors don't even work for the hospitals, but for the private equity firms and these firms are profit based and so they didn't buy more ICU beds prior to 2018, nor did they invest in buying more after that flu surge, and they haven't invested in a single new ICU bed since then, either. They don't care if we had to go TWO YEARS to flatten the curve instead of 2 weeks so that they didn't have to lose money on investing in more ICU beds. So all of us suffer so that the rich can get richer, and dupes like you cheer them on and vote them into office, and bow to all of their draconian demands, like good cannon fodder, like a good "useful idiot".

I agree I think it's time to think about scaling back on masks because people are either vaxed at this point or not, but saying they don't help overall is factually incorrect and ridiculous. Masks do mitigate spread, but there are multiple factors to consider in you saying we are one of the least to still use them. Part of that is because we have been one of the worst nations in handling this pandemic partly BECAUSE so many people have not been masked or can't figure out how to where them correctly. All you have to do is look at the data - places like the Dakotas where they don't wear masks and where the low density should mean reduced spread have had TERRIBLE per capita rates. So let's start with the fact that the premise of your argument is wrong.

Saying vaccines are not helpful also ignores very basic scientific and historical data. Know anyone with polio lately? If people like and fringe media had been around back then you probably would.

So it's not even worth debating the nuance of these arguments with someone who can't even accept basic facts about them in the first place. It's not irrational fear. It's fact-based and I don't think it comes from fear at all but empathy. I still wear a mask to the store or heavily trafficked public places because I don't want to hurt the vulnerable segments of my own community and I care about other people. I have a person I work with who has cancer, so I try to mitigate my own risks for the sake of him and others like him. Put another way, it's the Christian thing to do.

So it's ironic that the supposedly "Christian" regions of our country (South, midwest, plains) have had the most struggles with COVID and acting in Christian ways. These are among the least educated/literate portions of the country, so it's not some big surprise they (like you) have found themselves to absurd conspiracy theories that conveniently explain away their own shitty and unempathetic behavior while lambasting who?.... doctors and nurses who are educated and have dedicated their lives to saving the lives of others? Dr Fauci who has tons of money and is old as hell? The private equity firms? Wouldn't exposing an ICU shortage in critical times lose them money by a public wanting more investment in our health infrastructure?

I'm sorry you care so little for others in your community. I'm sorry a piece of paper is such a burden for you, snowflake.