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crazy. why would the skins take a wr in the 2nd or 3rd round? doesn't make sense to me.
 

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Because they would be the BPA. Haven't you learned anything over the last few years? We have 2 proven good WRs. Another one (Roberts) that has contributed and been marginally successful in another system. The rest are either old/over the hill, oft injured, or unproven. Now, as Stymee pointed out above, any WR that we might draft is also unproven. But the measurables on some of these guys leads most to believe that they have every reason to believe they can be very productive in this league. Good WRs are a very valuable commodity so when you get a chance to draft one, you have to seriously consider it.

Don't take this as I am saying we should absolutely draft a WR at 34. If all else is equal, I would rather we take an OL or S. But if there isn't one of these that justifies the 34 pick, then by all means take a WR if they do. Bottom line is you take BPA at any position except QB, RB (not an issue), P or K. Every other position we can use the talent.
 

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crazy. why would the skins take a wr in the 2nd or 3rd round? doesn't make sense to me.

who the heck said they would pick latimer at 34 ? there are other rounds in the draft :doh:
 

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he is projected as a 2nd or 3rd round pick. jy19 don't start this again. So olb and WR are taken over OG and OT b/c they are the BPA? No way not after the money we spent for Jax and Roberts. The oline is a huge hole IMO. TE actually makes more sense than WR at #34 and Amaro is going to be there.


Moses, Filo, Ward, and Amaro are my favorites at #34 as of right now. Add Hageman or Tuitt if the Skins know that Bowen will be released. These are the BPA guys for the Skins at #34 b/c none of them will be there at #66.
 

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he is projected as a 2nd or 3rd round pick. jy19 don't start this again. So olb and WR are taken over OG and OT b/c they are the BPA? No way not after the money we spent for Jax and Roberts. The oline is a huge hole IMO. TE actually makes more sense than WR at #34 and Amaro is going to be there.


Moses, Filo, Ward, and Amaro are my favorites at #34 as of right now. Add Hageman or Tuitt if the Skins know that Bowen will be released. These are the BPA guys for the Skins at #34 b/c none of them will be there at #66.

And what if none of those guys are there at 34, but benjamin, Lee, mack, or barr are? Do you just pass on them?
 

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lol. mack and barr are gone. Very likely that Benjamin and Lee are there at #34. So you try to trade down, you don't select them. There is no way that the guys I mentioned will all be gone before #34.
 

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How do you know? The draft never goes as predicted. This whole discussion is hypothetical anyway so what if your favorites are gone, but the guys I mention are there? That's the whole point. You never know what is going to happen. So you develop a draft board with every player listed from the first BPA to the last. You stay true to your board. The last thing you do is reach for a position. You do trade out of your pick in certain situations (like a QB is your BPA at 34). Remember, Rak is only on a 1 year deal. Its very real that he could be gone next year. IF we had a chance to land a stud OLB for his replacement you have to consider it. OLB is probably the third or fourth most important position on the team.
 

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True but what you are saying is ridiculous. You cant worry about OLB this year. You just cant. Draft needs are 1)OT 2)OG 3) S 4) TE 5) CB 6) DE (only if Bowen is released)
 

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I'm not worried about it, but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, either. You are way too focused on position. Draft needs are 1. BPA 2. BPA 3.BPA 4. BPA 5. BPA 6. BPA 7. Punter.
 

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Do you realize the backlash from fans and media if we took at WR at #34. Absolutely crazy!
 

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True but what you are saying is ridiculous. You cant worry about OLB this year. You just cant. Draft needs are 1)OT 2)OG 3) S 4) TE 5) CB 6) DE (only if Bowen is released)


Drafting for need over ability makes you a team constantly chasing needs and never actually building talent.
 

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I think its safe to say that we have plenty of WR talent. lol.
 

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It just depends on who else was on the board that we passed on. Honeslty, I don't think it would be that bad. You are thinking for need for just this coming year. That's not how GMs look at it. They think 3-5 years out and who will be a more valuable addition to the team. Let me put it to you this way. Think a few years back. You have the option of drafting Dez Bryant (disregard the off the field crap for a sec) or Chris Snee. You have WRs, but have an immediate hole at G. After a few years, both are PB players. Knowing this going in, which one do you take? Which one after 5 years is more valuable to your team?

Snee was a good G, but I take Dez's production every day over Snee's production in terms of impact to my success. Because the bottom line is that while SNee was good, there isn't that great of a difference between the top G and a middle of the road G. But there is a huge difference between a Dez and Hankerson, for example.
 

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I think its safe to say that we have plenty of WR talent. lol.


Thats your opinion which happens to be biased by your desire for us to draft a different position. I happen to think we are one injury away from screwed at WR and we seriously lack any height at the position. I dont see a O-line rookie available in the 2nd that would trump a contributor at WR.
 

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But you have to consider who in currently on your roster. Can the Skins win with Garcon and Jackson? Yes. Can you win with your franchise QB on the ground? NO. Garcon and Jax are Pro Bowl WR's why would you add to that position? It doesn't make sense to me. You protect your QB.


Its totally ridiculous to think WR at #34. Its not Sammy Watkins at #34, its a WR with question marks like Benjamin or Lee. Plus you have to factor in Roberts into the equation.
 

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How is this WR core screwed by one injury. Even if we lose Garcon or Jackson. Roberts can be a #2 WR in this league. Plus you can get contributions from hank and Robinson. Its one of the deepest position on this team. lol


Moses or Filo who would probably START wouldn't be a contributor? What!! that is crazy!!!
 

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There is 20 million dollars tied up in our top 3 WR's this year. So lets draft a WR at #34? lol. You guys are off today.
 

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But you have to consider who in currently on your roster. Can the Skins win with Garcon and Jackson? Yes. Can you win with your franchise QB on the ground? NO. Garcon and Jax are Pro Bowl WR's why would you add to that position? It doesn't make sense to me. You protect your QB.


Its totally ridiculous to think WR at #34. Its not Sammy Watkins at #34, its a WR with question marks like Benjamin or Lee. Plus you have to factor in Roberts into the equation.


Once again.. .screw pampering RG3. If he would learn to get rid of the ball, maybe he would stay off his back. If we have got to put the great wall of china in front of him because he holds onto the ball too long... maybe he isnt really a franchise QB after all. You take the best player for the team as a whole, not limit your picks to one area to try and make up for a weakness in another. If there is a WR on the board who is more talented thsan the o-line player we might draft and we take the o-lineman instead thats a mistake.
 

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There is 20 million dollars tied up in our top 3 WR's this year. So lets draft a WR at #34? lol. You guys are off today.


BUllshit.. I did the numbers. As far as cap dollars go there is $17 million tied up in all seven of our WRs currently on roster. Nice try though.
 
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