Chris sale. This is getting ridiculous.

[Rock Strongo]

Max Scherzer is the best starter in baseball. Chris Sale is somewhere around #70.

Your wife and Mila Kunis both have vaginas, but is one really the measuring stick be the other?



Note: (If your wife is a babe, then I'm jealous)

and max scherzer had a higher ERA than sale at one point in may.

also, the best pitcher in baseball right now is ryu for LA IMO tho scherzer is killing it lately. if you are going purely by ERA, sale is 47th, not 70th. right where bumgarner is. if you go by WHIP, sale is 14th at 1.075.

11 kershaw 1.05
12 maeda 1.07
13 gioloto 1.07
14 sale - 1.07
15 castillo 1.08
16 degom 1.09

 

[Rock Strongo]

Ok, I guess you're one of those "full of shit" type fellas.

no, i back everything i state with hard metrics.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

lolz at the Scherzer comps.

Sale isn't in Scherzer's league and hasn't been for years.

 

[Rock Strongo]

lolz at the Scherzer comps.

Sale isn't in Scherzer's league and hasn't been for years.

sale 17/18

59 starts
29-12
372 IP
545 k's
2.56 ERA
0.924 WHIP
ERA+175

Scherzer 17/18

64 starts
34-13
421 IP
568 k's
2.52 ERA
0.907 WHIP
ERA+ 172

follow baseball "lolz"

 

[Rock Strongo]

"he hasnt been in scherzers league for years"

meaning 2019...right?

 

[Rock Strongo]

lolz at the Scherzer comps.

Sale isn't in Scherzer's league and hasn't been for years.

im sure it was worth the laugh you gave, but those are hard metrics you cant argue.

follow baseball.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

sale 17/18

59 starts
29-12
372 IP
545 k's
2.56 ERA
0.924 WHIP
ERA+175

Scherzer 17/18

64 starts
34-13
421 IP
568 k's
2.52 ERA
0.907 WHIP
ERA+ 172

follow baseball "lolz"

Nice cherries you got there, but it is worth noting that Scherzer pitched 13% more innings. That's significant.

2017-2019 (most recent 3 seasons)
MS - 177 ERA+ ~ 550.2 IP
CS - 158 ERA+ ~ 479.1 IP

2015-2019 (most recent 5 seasons)
MS - 160 ERA+ ~ 1,007.2 IP
CS - 137 ERA+ ~ 914.2 IP

There are two types of people that would consider these two comparable; fan boys and Sale's grandparents.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

im sure it was worth the laugh you gave, but those are hard metrics you cant argue.

follow baseball.

"just ignore all the time Sale isn't on Scherzer's level, and he's totally on his level."

 

[Rock Strongo]

Nice cherries you got there, but it is worth noting that Scherzer pitched 13% more innings. That's significant.

2017-2019 (most recent 3 seasons)
MS - 177 ERA+ ~ 550.2 IP
CS - 158 ERA+ ~ 479.1 IP

2015-2019 (most recent 5 seasons)
MS - 160 ERA+ ~ 1,007.2 IP
CS - 137 ERA+ ~ 914.2 IP

There are two types of people that would consider these two comparable; fan boys and Sale's grandparents.

you said "Sale isn't in Scherzer's league and hasn't been for years"[sic].

17/18 are 2 full recent seasons...you know...one being, like last season?

you cannot argue the metrics, so i will ignore any attempt to do so.

its a 5 start difference. this is weak even for you.

 

[Rock Strongo]

"just ignore all the time Sale isn't on Scherzer's level, and he's totally on his level."

indisputable facts:

sale 17/18

59 starts
29-12
372 IP
545 k's
2.56 ERA
0.924 WHIP
ERA+175

Scherzer 17/18

64 starts
34-13
421 IP
568 k's
2.52 ERA
0.907 WHIP
ERA+ 172

 

[Rock Strongo]

"just ignore all the time Sale isn't on Scherzer's level, and he's totally on his level."

when was that? cuz 17/18 they were nearly identical less sales 5 fewer starts, or 2.5 starts per season over the 2 years.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

you said "Sale isn't in Scherzer's league and hasn't been for years"[sic].

17/18 are 2 full recent seasons...you know...one being, like last season?

you cannot argue the metrics, so i will ignore any attempt to do so.

its a 5 start difference. this is weak even for you.

It's 13% fewer innings, regardless off the number of starts, and that is significant, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

One would think that at some point you'd get tired of saying "yeah, but if you ignore that and only look at this..."

 

[cerealboi]

Sad to say, but Sale really Klubers these days.

 

[Rock Strongo]

It's 13% fewer innings, regardless off the number of starts, and that is significant, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

One would think that at some point you'd get tired of saying "yeah, but if you ignore that and only look at this..."

so, they were nearly identical in 17/18 (sale even has a better ERA+)but sale hasnt been in scherzers league for years?

youre standing by that?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

so, they were nearly identical in 17/18 (sale even has a better ERA+)but sale hasnt been in scherzers league for years?

youre standing by that?

No, they were only identical when you ignore the fact that Sale's pussy broke.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Sad to say, but Sale really Klubers these days.

his last 3 have been pretty bad. hard to figure out too. its like if he doesnt feel his fastball, he starts throwing everything form the tool shed into his pitch selection. his ERA was down to 3.49 before his last 3.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No, they were only identical when you ignore the fact that Sale's pussy broke.

the 5 starts i kinda keep mentioning? the 2.5 starts per year average sale missed?

 

[cerealboi]

his last 3 have been pretty bad. hard to figure out too. its like if he doesnt feel his fastball, he starts throwing everything form the tool shed into his pitch selection. his ERA was down to 3.49 before his last 3.

You know me, I thought he figured out a way around not consistently throwing 97. But, yeah, his last three starts have looked pretty bad. Maybe he'll figure out something before he starts raping the team for the big $$ next year.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Sad to say, but Sale really Klubers these days.

Word.

I'm not even sure which I'd rather have at this point (or not have?).

On one hand, Kluber is all fucked up and not even pitching right now, but on the other hand, what are Sale's numbers going to look like when he wears out next month?

I guess I'd begrudgingly take Kluber because he's a FUCKLOAD cheaper.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

the 5 starts i kinda keep mentioning? the 2.5 starts per year average sale missed?

Those magical five starts that you keep mentioning would have to be 10 inning starts from Sale to match innings.