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Chapman back to the Bronx

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I'm sure they will eventually. Would be nice to pickup 2 starters.

There's not a lot out there right now. I kinda feel like their target is 2018, but they'd be happy if that was accelerated by a year.
 

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...and the Academy Award for most dramatic performance on an MLB thread for 12/8/2016 goes to. . .

Omar!

<applause>

Here, have a Twinkie.
I'd prefer a Ding-Dong. Can you have your dad bring it by?
 

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There's not a lot out there right now. I kinda feel like their target is 2018, but they'd be happy if that was accelerated by a year.

I think their target is 2018 but I have to think their goal is mid to high 80 wins next year. I'm hoping they go after Jason Hammel. He's the one free agency starter I actually want
 

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...and the Academy Award for most dramatic performance on an MLB thread for 12/8/2016 goes to. . .

Omar!

<applause>

Here, have a Twinkie.
It was a bad deal though. No way around $86 million to a guy who you'd be likely to get one or two 3 win seasons from
 

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Not surprising. I'm torn on how I feel about our rental of Chapman. He did help us some in a few playoff games especially game 5 of the World Series. Since I can't definitively say the Cubs wouldn't have we in the WS without Chapman I'm OK with how everything turned out. Losing the prospects sucks but the reality is those guys probably weren't ever going to be everyday players for the Cubs.

Do you even baseball?

The Cubs bullpen was not robust without Chapman. He alone accounted for over 10% of the Cubs' postseason innings. He got two wins and four saves. He was arguably the 3rd most important pitcher to the Cubs in the playoffs.

Considering the Cubs were pushed to extra innings of game seven with Chapman, I'm pretty comfortable saying that without him, the curse would continue.
 

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Do you even baseball?

The Cubs bullpen was not robust without Chapman. He alone accounted for over 10% of the Cubs' postseason innings. He got two wins and four saves. He was arguably the 3rd most important pitcher to the Cubs in the playoffs.

Considering the Cubs were pushed to extra innings of game seven with Chapman, I'm pretty comfortable saying that without him, the curse would continue.
Yeah, the rental was pretty clearly a win-win best case scenario for both parties
 

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It was a bad deal though. No way around $86 million to a guy who you'd be likely to get one or two 3 win seasons from

I see your point, but being that it's the Yankees, I'm not sure I'd agree that it's a "bad deal."

However, I can appreciate the fact that over the next five years while Chapman is pitching 300 innings, Kluber will be pitching 1,100 and earning 2/3rds of what Chapman will make.
 

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I'd prefer a Ding-Dong. Can you have your dad bring it by?

Your moms told you about my dad's ding-dong, huh? She loves that shit.

I just hope he doesn't text me another pic of him greasing her stretch marks - I nearly puked last time. I gotta admit though, the story he told me about when he snuck into your room and cleaned your mom's truffle butter off of his dick with your pillow cracked me up.
 

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I see your point, but being that it's the Yankees, I'm not sure I'd agree that it's a "bad deal."

However, I can appreciate the fact that over the next five years while Chapman is pitching 300 innings, Kluber will be pitching 1,100 and earning 2/3rds of what Chapman will make.

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Your moms told you about my dad's ding-dong, huh? She loves that shit.

I just hope he doesn't text me another pic of him greasing her stretch marks - I nearly puked last time. I gotta admit though, the story he told me about when he snuck into your room and cleaned your mom's truffle butter off of his dick with your pillow cracked me up.

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Paying 86 million to guy who pitches ~70 innings a year is mind numbingly stupid. Again, see Jonathan Papelbon or B.J. Ryan
It would be stupid for the Twins or Rays. The Yankees can pay Chapman, give Harper half a billion and they will still be well in the black. On the field, they got some great prospects and they get their closer back. I'm sure it was the plan all along.
 

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It would be stupid for the Twins or Rays. The Yankees can pay Chapman, give Harper half a billion and they will still be well in the black. On the field, they got some great prospects and they get their closer back. I'm sure it was the plan all along.
I can think of another franchise I'm very familiar with that got a little crazy and power-drunk with the checkbook. They're not doing too well right now....
 

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I can think of another franchise I'm very familiar with that got a little crazy and power-drunk with the checkbook. They're not doing too well right now....

Yeah, the Howard deal was infinitely more retarded than this one. Also, don't kid yourself, the Phillies' financial resources are a fraction of the Yankees'.
 

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Do you even baseball?

The Cubs bullpen was not robust without Chapman. He alone accounted for over 10% of the Cubs' postseason innings. He got two wins and four saves. He was arguably the 3rd most important pitcher to the Cubs in the playoffs.

Considering the Cubs were pushed to extra innings of game seven with Chapman, I'm pretty comfortable saying that without him, the curse would continue.
Well he got 1 of the wins because he blew a 3 run lead. Chapman was good in Chicago but not great. He made no real difference in the regular season but he did pitch a lot in the postseason. Rondon struggled the last few months of the year but I don't know if those struggles were because he got mentally fucked by losing his closer role or if he just turned to shit. The Cubs pen was above average all year even before Chapman. The only game in the postseason I can definitely point to and say Chapman made a noticeable difference was game 5 in the WS BUT, as you pointed out, that was a pretty big one lol.
 

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Well he got 1 of the wins because he blew a 3 run lead. Chapman was good in Chicago but not great. He made no real difference in the regular season but he did pitch a lot in the postseason. Rendon struggled the last few months of the year but I don't know if those struggles were because he got mentally fucked by losing his closer role or if he just turned to shit. The Cubs pen was above average all year even before Chapman. The only game in the postseason I can definitely point to and say Chapman made a noticeable difference was ga me 5 in the WS BUT, as you pointed out, that was a pretty big one lol.

You could have saved a lot of time and just responded, "no, I don't really baseball."
 
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