Game Thread: Bumgarner vs Syndergaard

[Omar 382]

Bumgarner needed help too.

He didn't hit the homer .

Hitting gets you into the playoffs. Pitching wins the playoffs.

 

[navamind]

I disagree. Bumgarner is the best in the business right now, but the Giants have a solid rotation with Queto, Samardzija, and Moore, not to mention their bullpen.

lol

 

[The Q]

There's this guy with 2 last names.

CK

2nd one rhymes with Vershaw.

Maybe you heard of him....

 

[navamind]

178 ERA+ since 2011 (230 this year).

 

[calsnowskier]

Name a better big-game pitcher going today.

Please provide the track record that shows he is a better BIG GAME pitcher.

Take your time. I will wait.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Name a better big-game pitcher going today.

Please provide the track record that shows he is a better BIG GAME pitcher.

Take your time. I will wait.

I don't think anyone's saying he's not the best 'big game' pitcher, but that doesn't make him the best pitcher in baseball.

Smoltz and Schilling in their careers probably had runs as the best 'big game' pitcher, but they were never the best pitcher in baseball for any extended stretch (same could be said with Bumgarner).

 

[douggie]

Yeah, no

Name him.

 

[Omar 382]

Name him.

Knock yourself out

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[douggie]

Name a better big-game pitcher going today.

Please provide the track record that shows he is a better BIG GAME pitcher.

Take your time. I will wait.

It's easy to say Bumgarner isn't the best right now when you cannot name one better. Sports Illustrated Man of the Year awaits the better pitcher named by those who cannot name him.

 

[douggie]

Knock yourself out

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YOU name him. I say Bumgarner. And you say who??????

 

[douggie]

Knock yourself out

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He just outed the #1 on that list. So, is that who is supposed to be better?

 

[Omar 382]

He just outed the #1 on that list. So, is that who is supposed to be better?

Who outed? Cal? lolololol. Ok

Clayton Kershaw
Max Scherzer
Chris Sale
Corey Kluber

are all objectively better pitchers than Madison Bumgarner. To argue otherwise continues the relevance of your idiocy, so I advise otherwise.

 

[douggie]

*Bumgarner has a 0.79 ERA in his last 9 playoff games. Name one better?

*Bumgarner has a 0.670 WHIP, not to mention 23 straight innings in winner-take-all-games without a run scored.

*NO PITCHER has made more scoreless postseason starts.

*His postseason ERA is the BEST ALL TIME among starters.


*He ranks second ALL TIME in postseason shutouts.

Who is better?

 

[douggie]

Who outed? Cal? lolololol. Ok

Clayton Kershaw
Max Scherzer
Chris Sale
Corey Kluber

are all objectively better pitchers than Madison Bumgarner. To argue otherwise continues the relevance of your idiocy, so I advise otherwise.

LOL, Kershaw?

Where's Kershaw? Oh, that's right, he's at home on the couch right now. Mainly because the Giants swept the Dodgers when it counted most. Last week.

 

[douggie]

Chris Sale? How many postseason games has he won?

 

[Omar 382]

LOL, Kershaw?

Where's Kershaw? Oh, that's right, he's at home on the couch right now. Mainly because the Giants swept the Dodgers when it counted most. Last week.

What? The Dodgers finished with a better record than you guys. They're playing the Nationals. Do you watch baseball?

 

[Omar 382]

Chris Sale? How many postseason games has he won?

So his team performance should impact how good he is? i.e. David Eckstein is a better player than Ernie Banks?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Wait...you're fucking SERIOUS?

Well yeah, usually people are serious when they present facts

 

[Omar 382]

*Bumgarner has a 0.79 ERA in his last 9 playoff games. Name one better?

*Bumgarner has a 0.670 WHIP, not to mention 23 straight innings in winner-take-all-games without a run scored.

*NO PITCHER has made more scoreless postseason starts.

*His postseason ERA is the BEST ALL TIME among starters.


*He ranks second ALL TIME in postseason shutouts.

Who is better?

You're looking at a very small sample size that can easily change. I already named the four guys who are objectively better

 

[calsnowskier]

I don't think anyone's saying he's not the best 'big game' pitcher, but that doesn't make him the best pitcher in baseball.

Smoltz and Schilling in their careers probably had runs as the best 'big game' pitcher, but they were never the best pitcher in baseball for any extended stretch (same could be said with Bumgarner).

Who called him the best pitcher in baseball?