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[Village Plumber]

A realistic floor for Kennedy 3 years from now (Marcums current age) is similar production to Marcum..... but over about 400 more innings.

Austin Jackson on the other hand is already a better player than Aaron Hill. And he is still a year or 2 away from his prime

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So...we're allowing speculative analysis....

So...top prospects, who I excluded...now count.....which doesn't really help the Yankees...unless you want to include a guy in the low 40's of BA's top 100 as a "top prospect"....which will hurt the Yankees in this even more...

We could also include some of the 1st rounders I deliberately excluded, guys like Price...the Rays still had a choice to make there...they still had to identify, and develop that talent...giving them zero credit for it it pretty stupid...

I'm using speculative analysis in areas of common sense - if Kennedy puts up even remotely similar numbers in his age 28-30 seasons as he did in his age 25-27 seasons (is that an unrealistic assumption?), he'll have similar production to Marcum, but have thrown about 40% more innings

In a matchup of which draftee was a better draft pick, my logic would lead me to choose Bryce Harper. Yours would say Shelley Duncan.

We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess

Sorry if I'm not of the opinion that one player was a better draft pick than another player just because he's older

 

[Kate Upton]

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your enema joke was funnier

fyi, that aint a compliment

I call bullshit...

 

[Uno]

I would agree with that

But..an Elite Set Up wont usually be the 16th best player on his team. Since most all teams have some holes in the Lineup and Rotation.

Also it correlation fails because the Variance between Long snappers is just Good or bad.. While Set up man have a lot more degree's of success and fail.

and you have to take into account that snuggles is a moron


comparing across sports is stupid because the 5th most important player in football isn't equally as valuable as the 5th most important player on a baseball team...snuggles doesn't like things like logic when he's trolling


which makes it seem weird when he starts whining about not being able to have rational conversations here

 

[Down38st8]

lol...Kennedy is trending towards "fucking terrible"...but marcum's 6+ ERA is too small of a sample size...you're hilarious


After your research? You looked at 7 teams...cashman was middle of the pack of those 7 teams...as in right where I said he was...

You proved me right...you fucking moron

No Uno. Ready...here is what I am saying...if you're concluding anything based on Marcum 23 IP this year, which you were...then you cannot at the same time ignore Kennedy's similarly small sample this year...and say he's "trending towards mediocrity"

And he wasn't middle of the pack unless you take the homertastic stance of "I can speculate on yankee players, but you can't speculate on top prospects"


Congrats on that win.....

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

I call bullshit...

and frequently post same

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Everyone needs to subscribe to this soon to be awesome thread


http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...cial-guess-who-just-reported-post-thread.html

It might become awesome later.

 

[PeteNYC]

So a dime a dozen 230 hitting position player that can be easily replaced, and every team has a few, is more important than a lights out set up man?
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I think what Snuggs is saying? That a guy that plays the field for 9 innings, and gets 4 at bats a game in 150+ games...contributes more than a guy that gets 3 outs 60 times a year...


Ask me if I'd rather have an average 2nd baseman with an elite "8th inning guy" or an elite 2nd baseman and an avearge 8th inning guy?

I'm taking the elite position player...all day...every day....

So, if you can have 2010 Bard for the Sox today or Bret Gardner, who do you take?

 

[Uno]

No Uno. Ready...here is what I am saying...if you're concluding anything based on Marcum 23 IP this year, which you were...then you cannot at the same time ignore Kennedy's similarly small sample this year...and say he's "trending towards mediocrity"

And he wasn't middle of the pack unless you take the homertastic stance of "I can speculate on yankee players, but you can't speculate on top prospects"


Congrats on that win.....

lol


you proved me right


you've basically concluded that marcum is better because he's older than kennedy


and then ignored the rest of your awful comparison...


and ignored 22 other teams


and the fact that the yankees drafted as well or better than 3 out of the 7 you listed


You got thoroughly crushed on this...just admit it and move the fuck on...dragging it out like this only makes you look like more of a bitch than everyone already knew you were

 

[Kate Upton]

and frequently post same

 

[Kate Upton]

It might become awesome later.

Someone in here will be banned before long...

And it will probably be the person who tattles on somebody next.

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

Someone in here will be banned before long...

And it will probably be the person who tattles on somebody next.

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can I borrow your password to this place for about 8 minutes?

 

[Zig]

It might become awesome later.

yeah they just started it. the thread that spawned it was pretty epic so high hopes for this one

 

[Uno]

"using major league production to assume further major league production is the same as using prospect draft status to assume major league production"

~ Down on admitting he was wrong

 

[Down38st8]

I'm using speculative analysis in areas of common sense - if Kennedy puts up even remotely similar numbers in his age 28-30 seasons as he did in his age 25-27 seasons (is that an unrealistic assumption?), he'll have similar production to Marcum, but have thrown about 40% more innings

In a matchup of which draftee was a better draft pick, my logic would lead me to choose Bryce Harper. Yours would say Shelley Duncan.

We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess

Sorry if I'm not of the opinion that one player was a better draft pick than another player just because he's older

I have zero problem with your speculation...

I only have a problem that for no logical reason, the same speculation can't be considered towards top prospects...

I can't reasonably speculate Wil Myers and Jurrickson profar won't have better careers than Brett Gardner? Why? "Ummm...cuz and stuffs"

 

[Down38st8]

"using major league production to assume further major league production is the same as using prospect draft status to assume major league production"

~ Down on admitting he was wrong

LOL...more like

"I'm allowed to speculate, you're not!!!! I WIN AGAIN!!!?"

 

[fordman84]

Someone in here will be banned before long...

And it will probably be the person who tattles on somebody next.

Valid reports (like nudity or something breaking the rules) is still allowed. reporting because you have some sand in your vag is not.

 

[Kate Upton]

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can I borrow your password to this place for about 8 minutes?

Pffft...

 

[Village Plumber]

No Uno. Ready...here is what I am saying...if you're concluding anything based on Marcum 23 IP this year

Down is still saying this after Uno has said what.... a dozen times?..... that as far as production goes, him and Kennedy are about equal?

Maybe another dozen should do the trick

 

[Uno]

I have zero problem with your speculation...

I only have a problem that for no logical reason, the same speculation can't be considered towards top prospects...

I can't reasonably speculate Wil Myers and Jurrickson profar won't have better careers than Brett Gardner? Why? "Ummm...cuz and stuffs"

because its not the same speculation...just admit you fucked up and move on...I'm embarrassed for you at this point

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

Valid reports (like nudity or something breaking the rules) is still allowed. reporting because you have some sand in your vag is not.

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what if it is a pic of JD with some sand in his vag?