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[megalodon30]

Rodgers?

Rodgers is borderline. Want to see how getting older effects him. Right now, one could certainly call him elite and I wouldn’t have any problem with it.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Interesting list for the top "Approx Value" at the QB position

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Looks about right. Manning is probably the composite GOAT by some definitions, but Brady has more longevity. Matter of preference.

 

[megalodon30]

TB, Brees and Big Ben aren't/weren't elite?

Unquestionably, all three have been elite QBs in their careers. But age is a thing and they can’t perform at the tippy top forever. Even Peyton Manning succumbed to Father Time eventually.

But an argument could be made that they are all still performing at an elite level.

 

[Black Adam]

All the elites had talent around them. Including Fouts!

Air Coryell...

 

[brin3535]

All the elites had talent around them. Including Fouts!

Did Fouts have 4 straight Super Bowls type of talent? Fuck no he didn't. That was my point.

 

[msgkings322]

Rodgers is borderline. Want to see how getting older effects him. Right now, one could certainly call him elite and I wouldn’t have any problem with it.

Dude he's already old and he's still killing it. Been top 3-5 stat wise for over a decade with a ring. He's as elite as they come. Come on man.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Did Fouts have 4 straight Super Bowls type of talent? Fuck no he didn't. That was my point.

We are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Of all the players talked about without a Superbowl. I think Marino had the least amount of talent around him.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Dude he's already old and he's still killing it. Been top 3-5 stat wise for over a decade with a ring. He's as elite as they come. Come on man.

Brady has really warped expectations on aging as a QB.

 

[molsaniceman]

So the following QBs are not elite and in fact mediocre or stat whores: Favre, Rodgers, Young, Marino, Mahomes, Kelly, Unitas, Brees....any I'm forgetting?

You realize football is the ultimate team game. No one player wins anything.

nope brady/bradshaw/aikman/montana thats it by those stats

 

[brin3535]

We are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Agreed. Getting tired of this conversation anyway. Right in the middle of a close game. We have all week to debate this stuff.

 

[The Derski]

That’s not a catch

 

[megalodon30]

Dude he's already old and he's still killing it. Been top 3-5 stat wise for over a decade with a ring. He's as elite as they come. Come on man.

Yeah, like I said, he could be called elite without any problem. But when was the last time GB was in a SB?

Like I said, my definition of elite is very strict, and Rodgers has lost a bit of luster for me by not getting back to the SB recently.

 

[DJ]

Dude he's already old and he's still killing it. Been top 3-5 stat wise for over a decade with a ring. He's as elite as they come. Come on man.

Youngest to get to 400 TD's isn't elite or HOF, c'mon.....

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yeah, basically. I presonally just have a very strict definition of elite. To me you need at least one Super Bowl and to be unquestionably one of the best QBs in the league for 5+ years for me to consider a guy elite. Like statistically top 3. I’d say Mahomes and Wilson are the only QBs I’d consider elite right now.

Mahomes is clearly a once in a generation talent, has a SB and will probably have a couple more based on how his career has started.

Wilson has been to 2 SBs and consistently has his QB rating near 100. Even when Seattle has a poor roster, they remain competitive with largely because of Wilson.

I’d probably throw Brees in there too, but age and health might be catching up to him.

What about Rodgers. Obviously elite imo. And as far as SBs being a criteria, that is very flawed reasoning, imo. Fouts, Marino, Kelly, and how about Tarkenton? He owned all the major passing records until Marino broke them.

 

[Black Adam]

That’s not a catch

Probably not...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Rodgers is gonna be in the conversation for GOAT most likely when he is done for the same reason Manning is on that periphery and we're seriously arguing if Rodgers is a HOF'er in this thread?!? Wtf?

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Yeah, like I said, he could be called elite without any problem. But when was the last time GB was in a SB?

Like I said, my definition of elite is very strict, and Rodgers has lost a bit of luster for me by not getting back to the SB recently.

Now GnG is gonna get you!!!

 

[Moab]

Back to the game...that hit the ground....so inc pass

 

[Black Adam]

Youngest to get to 400 TD's isn't elite or HOF, c'mon.....

Hell, Rogers was good and scary in College...