British Parliament wants Redskins to change name or NFL send a different team

[huskers1217]

fuck them

when they change the name of English Muffins, then we should consider changing the Redskins name

"freedom muffins"?

 

[packerzrule]

"freedom muffins"?

Ed Zachary

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Haha I think we come at this from 180 degrees apart. I believe in the cause of letting them name the team whatever they damn well please. I respect more someone just poking at a rival than someone who really feels the natives are being so offended by this name that it must be changed or else - offendedness!

Good deal - fair enough.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Honestly - is being scratched from the list of playing in London (& possibly reattaining a home game in the process) a threat or actually a reward?

Goodell better not also use this to promote any type of change since he is already viewed in a negative light as it as & this won't help things.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Great reply. Your statement about not really caring probably represents the feelings of a lot of people on this forum. I would guess that many folks here also don't really care except for the fact that they don't like the Redskins or Snyder or they just like to argue. Honestly - for me - I would not lose much sleep if they changed the name. I just hate seeing politicians getting involved in this type of crap while so many other things deserve their attn.

I don't care either to be honest. I don't care about just about any racial slurs really. But when you have an owner who knows he can't call those people by that slur and avoids it, and stands up against tribes that are against it telling them that it's meant to honor them, I find that a joke at best. If it offends them, which it clearly does with so many Native American tribes and groups against it, then I am fine if they put on the pressure to have it changed.

I will say that while the name doesn't bother me, if I was going to take a stand on this, I'd stand against using a dictionary defined racial slur rather than fighting to keep it.

 

[wazzu31]

Make Britain change their game ass futbol to its appropriate name soccer then they can have a discussion.

 

[SonnyCID]

You're speaking right now. STFU = not speaking for them.

Simmer down now.

Just thought it would make for an entertaining YT vid for someone to make if they were truly confident in their stance on the situation.

 

[averagejoe]

Since we're on the subject...

Yankee​

According to the original origin of the word, it is a disparaging word directed insultingly toward Dutch settlers; roughly translated to "Little John Cheese." By the 1750's the term "yankee" applied to all New Englanders. By the revolutionary war, in applied to all Americans.

For all of the Dutch who are insulted, maybe the New York Yankees should change their name? I'd suggest New York Cheeseheads, but the Packers may be upset with copyright issues.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I don't care either to be honest. I don't care about just about any racial slurs really. But when you have an owner who knows he can't call those people by that slur and avoids it, and stands up against tribes that are against it telling them that it's meant to honor them, I find that a joke at best. If it offends them, which it clearly does with so many Native American tribes and groups against it, then I am fine if they put on the pressure to have it changed.

I will say that while the name doesn't bother me, if I was going to take a stand on this, I'd stand against using a dictionary defined racial slur rather than fighting to keep it.

Little Danny Boy comes from a tribe of his own.

 

[Cyder]

But why does the Indian have a big Jew nose?

I never noticed. Could be an Italian nose. some of us have some HUGH noses

 

[Cyder]

Someone is confused.

If you're referring to me I was joking

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I never noticed. Could be an Italian nose. some of us have some HUGH noses

Roman nose?

 

[Cyder]

Roman nose?

Yep. Quite a few of those on my mothers side of the family. managed to dodge that particular bullet

 

[megalodon30]

some of us have some HUGH noses

Hefner, Jackman, or Grant?

 

[Rex Racer]

those are all nobodies there who's opinion means nothing.

Well, we agree on something.

 

[broncosmitty]

Yep. Quite a few of those on my mothers side of the family. managed to dodge that particular bullet

Did you get the back hair?

 

[Brees#1]

Why all of a sudden these last few years the indians have a problem with the name? Could it be because they are not appreciated by society today like in the past and don't want any americans mocking their name that have no respect for them?

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Did you get the back hair?

I'd be more worried about Mama having the black mustache..... Seen a lot of that over the years.

 

[chf]

Why all of a sudden these last few years the indians have a problem with the name? Could it be because they are not appreciated by society today like in the past and don't want any americans mocking their name that have no respect for them?

First, not all natives think the same on the issue. Not a monolithic group. Second, there's been opposition to the name for a lot longer than 2 or 3 years. It was just that the media wasn't interested in covering it.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

First, not all natives think the same on the issue. Not a monolithic group. Second, there's been opposition to the name for a lot longer than 2 or 3 years. It was just that the media wasn't interested in covering it.

Agreed, there's been native americans fighting to get the name changed since at least the 70's..

I think a couple things have changed... Reporting on these types of things has shot up, and the social media effect where a smaller group (Native Americans are a small minority in the US) can get their voice heard.

Another is that they have had bigger fish to fry in the past than someone using a racial slur. Suicide, poverty, unemployment, health care issues...

Figure they've only had a joint voice since the 50's, heck they were still having wars with settlers taking over their lands in the 20's... And in the early years they were fighting federal employment bias, and things like Alaska becoming a state with a bill that would ensure there could be zero reservations for native americans.

As the legal fights for equal rights are being won, they've focused more on new topics like increasing quality health care on reservations, education and employment, preserving culture, and lobbying states and now the federal gov't to remove the racial slurs.