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Brian Sabean also headed to Cooperstown HOF

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Everyone is talking about Bochy going to the HOF but that conversation needs to include Brian Sabean who put together this group of players . He picked up players like Burrell, Ross,Scutaro, Peavy, and Ishikawa to fill out key roles late in the year on each of those Championship teams. Sabean took a lot of heat for the Matt Williams trade and proved he was no idiot. He has three rings and should have 1 more from that 2002 season.

He simply is a HOF GM and should go in soon after he retires. I wrote a article about him earlier in the year and it all panned out so here is his song I promised to play.

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Sorry, dude, I love Sabean as much as anyone, but only 4 GMs are in the Hall and they were all major innovators not just good GMs:

ESPN.com: MLB - Only four GMs in Hall of Fame

From the link:

"George Weiss

All told, from 1936 through 1964 teams built by Weiss claimed 22 of 29 AL titles and sixteen World Series. Perhaps as an act of penance, Weiss finished his career as GM of the expansion New York Mets. He was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1971."

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So by my calculations, Sabes will be qualified by 2040.

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Sabean doesn't deserve the hall simply for the fact that he traded away Zach Wheeler. Yes, I'm still bitter about that one. :gaah:
 

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Sorry, dude, I love Sabean as much as anyone, but only 4 GMs are in the Hall and they were all major innovators not just good GMs:

ESPN.com: MLB - Only four GMs in Hall of Fame

Perhaps the criteria should change. Players need to be exceptional at their jobs to get in; they don't need to be innovators. Perhaps the same standard should be applied to execs. I do agree, however, that the Hall should be oriented toward players more so than executives.
 

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Perhaps the criteria should change. Players need to be exceptional at their jobs to get in; they don't need to be innovators. Perhaps the same standard should be applied to execs. I do agree, however, that the Hall should be oriented toward players more so than executives.

In other words, leave it as it is... :noidea:
 

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In other words, leave it as it is... :noidea:

No, if the standard for execs is that they had to be innovators, not just outstanding at their jobs, as I thought you were suggesting, then perhaps that needs to change. I believe it should be more oriented toward players, yes, but that will be the case anyway since there are so many more players than execs.
 

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No, if the standard for execs is that they had to be innovators, not just outstanding at their jobs, as I thought you were suggesting, then perhaps that needs to change. I believe it should be more oriented toward players, yes, but that will be the case anyway since there are so many more players than execs.

I think the Hall has it right, it's not for executives, so to make it as an executive you have to REALLY stand out. You wouldn't want to put in every GM who wins a few titles.
 

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I think the Hall has it right, it's not for executives, so to make it as an executive you have to REALLY stand out. You wouldn't want to put in every GM who wins a few titles.

Agreed. And despite my obvious bias, when I think of Brian Sabean, I don't think of the Hall of Fame. I'm coming around on Bochy, but not Sabean.
 
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