Braylon Edwards 2011

[bvanthielriceyoung]

I'm actually leaning towards wanting the Niners to roll the dice on Desean Jackson at WR. I know he's a numb nuts, but he's killed his stock this season; and I think his stock is hitting a valley & will peak again.

I REALLY don't like the guy, but I like what I think Harbaugh could do with him in the offense.

Sounds like a terrible fit to me.

Our QB's biggest weakness is probably the long ball. That is Deseans strength. In our offense, the receivers need to block, something desean doesnt do.
Our receivers also have to run solid routes, short routes, and sometime over the middle - all things Desean doesnt do.

I am not a fan of Jacksons at all, especially with his attitude issues.

 

[NinerSickness]

Our QB's biggest weakness is probably the long ball.

No it's not. His biggest weakness is that he needs more room to throw the ball than a QB with a strong arm and he lacks velocity on his out routes. He does fine with the deep ball. The problem is the only deep threat the Niners have is the slot WR Tedd Ginn JR; and he's even more one dimentional than Jackson and has far worse hands.

In our offense, the receivers need to block, something desean doesnt do.

The CBs giving him far more room will make up for a lot of his deficiencies in blocking. Not all of them, but some. It's a good trade off IMO (if the Niners can get him at a reasonable price).

As far as his route running goes I'm fine with his route running. That's not a problem.

I am not a fan of Jacksons at all, especially with his attitude issues.

I don't like his attitude either, but he's now 25. I think the worst of which is behind him, and that's why I think his stock will spike again. He's the single quickest and fastest WR in the NFL (or at least he was at one point; he's easily top 5). That's something the Niners' offense could use. Makes the offense a lot more versatile.

 

[Texas9erFan]

I'm actually leaning towards wanting the Niners to roll the dice on Desean Jackson at WR. I know he's a numb nuts, but he's killed his stock this season; and I think his stock is hitting a valley & will peak again.

I REALLY don't like the guy, but I like what I think Harbaugh could do with him in the offense.

I have to admit, I'm kinda wondering if he could turn over a new leaf here. Might be worth it!

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Morgan is a FA at the end of this year.

I'd be shocked if he leaves, though. He likes the team, the team likes him, we are thin at receiver, and he's coming off an injury that will make it harder for him to get a big payday elsewhere. Never say never in NFL FA (didn't think Baas would leave this year), but I think Morgan stays.

 

[Texas9erFan]

Amen! I don't want to see Morgan leave. I've been hoping they re-sign him while he rehabs.

 

[Mozart'sGhost]

I like the way he runs hard after the catch and doesn't go down without a fight. Someone earlier mentioned that he is a "team" guy and I agree. I did not ecxpect that from him. If he gets healthy for the playoffs I think we will see his value.

 

[Mozart'sGhost]

Morgan is a FA at the end of this year.

That's right, I forgot about Morgan. When everyone is healthy, they can have a pretty deep and solid WR corps with Crabtree, Edwards, Morgan, Williams and Ginn.

 

[MW49ers5]

That's right, I forgot about Morgan. When everyone is healthy, they can have a pretty deep and solid WR corps with Crabtree, Edwards, Morgan, Williams and Ginn.

We also have Swain (whom I forgot to add to the 2012 FA thread) and our rookie Dontavia Bogan (currently on IR), for whom I have one eyebrow raised.

 

[imac_21]

One thing I will say about Edwards on field ability is that when he gets the ball, things feel different than with any of our other WRs. Crabtree has, at times, shown a little of what I get from Edwards, but it's the closest to TO as we've had in the sense that every time he has the ball, he could score.

No one else on the team does that. Kendall Hunter is probably the closest, but when Braylon gets the ball, there's an air of excitement around it.

That's a nice thing to have in the passing game.

I also disagree (with clyde I think it was) that he isn't a good fit for our offense. With the skills he has, and the attitude he has shown, I think he's a good fit in pretty much any offense. The only issue is his hands.

 

[MW49ers5]

I'd be shocked if he leaves, though. He likes the team, the team likes him, we are thin at receiver, and he's coming off an injury that will make it harder for him to get a big payday elsewhere. Never say never in NFL FA (didn't think Baas would leave this year), but I think Morgan stays.

Yeah, I agree with the Morgan sentiments, I think (hope) he comes back and at a fair price.

However, I'm not sure I would define our WR situation as thin. We have seven, and for a team that uses both its TE's as targets, one a primary, that is a solid # of WR's. Unless, you are referring to those still on contract after this year, then, yes, we are thin.

 

[Mozart'sGhost]

We also have Swain (whom I forgot to add to the 2012 FA thread) and our rookie Dontavia Bogan (currently on IR), for whom I have one eyebrow raised.

I don't know anything about either of those guys. The one thing I don't like about our current receiving corps is that they are all known for having the "drops" from time to time; specifically Crabtree, Edwards, Ginn and I'll toss Vernon Davis in there too although he's not a wideout. Edwards and Crabtree also make some great catches which makes it harder to understand why they drop so many easy ones. This group has potential though.

 

[yossarian]

One thing I will say about Edwards on field ability is that when he gets the ball, things feel different than with any of our other WRs. Crabtree has, at times, shown a little of what I get from Edwards, but it's the closest to TO as we've had in the sense that every time he has the ball, he could score.

No one else on the team does that. Kendall Hunter is probably the closest, but when Braylon gets the ball, there's an air of excitement around it.

That's a nice thing to have in the passing game.

I also disagree (with clyde I think it was) that he isn't a good fit for our offense. With the skills he has, and the attitude he has shown, I think he's a good fit in pretty much any offense. The only issue is his hands.

I also think that that quality is something this offense sorely needs to take the next step.

 

[NinerSickness]

Ok Failon Edwards simply isn't good enough in the other aspects of his game to make up for his deficiencies in catching the ball to be a #1 WR; and the Niners need a #1 WR. TO made up for it. Edwards doesn't. Just my humble opinion.

 

[MW49ers5]

I don't know anything about either of those guys. The one thing I don't like about our current receiving corps is that they are all known for having the "drops" from time to time; specifically Crabtree, Edwards, Ginn and I'll toss Vernon Davis in there too although he's not a wideout. Edwards and Crabtree also make some great catches which makes it harder to understand why they drop so many easy ones. This group has potential though.

Swain was drafted in 2008 by GB, waived earlier this year and picked up as a FA a couple days after we lost Morgan. He has 6 career catches with GB, but hasn't seen any playing time with us.

Bogan, we drafted this year as an UDFA and lost him to a torn ACL just before pre-season.

As for the drops, yeah, more than just a little annoying. I've watched Vernon's drop a dozen times if I've watched it once - all I can say is he owes someone some money.

 

[I_am_1z]

Sickness, Clyde? Judging a WR who just had knee surgery in late September and questioning why he's struggling to perform, then on top of that we figure out he has a bum shoulder since at least two weeks ago, what were your expectations?

 

[NinerSickness]

Sickness, Clyde? Judging a WR who just had knee surgery in late September and questioning why he's struggling to perform, then on top of that we figure out he has a bum shoulder since at least two weeks ago, what were your expectations?

What were my expectations? Not much really. I didn't even like the guy in college. He was my '05 bust pick. And outside of 1 season I don't really see how he's proven me wrong. The shoulder & knee don't make balls bounce off his chest. He's not a talented enough WR to make up for the drops like TO was. He's a decent #2 (kind of like Crabtree). If the Niners were to trade Crabby I'd be all for re-signing Braylon. But the Niners need a #1 WR not 2 decent #2's.

The injuries only make the case to bring him back worse in my mind.

 

[CalamityX11]

Aren't we going to draft Jeffrey this year in the first anyways????

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

Gonna be a big offseason as far as WR position goes.

Crabtree and williams are the only ones on the roster as starters.

I Think they will resign Morgan for sure.

Ginn and Edwards are up in the air. Most likely will wanna keep Ginn for his ST role unless they think that Williams replace him or upgrade via free agency/draft.

It basically might come down to Edwards or to find a stud via free agency/draft. Maybe they will even think Crab, Morgan, Williams, Ginn are good enough

Will be interesting to monitor.

 

[I_am_1z]

What were my expectations? Not much really. I didn't even like the guy in college. He was my '05 bust pick. And outside of 1 season I don't really see how he's proven me wrong. The shoulder & knee don't make balls bounce off his chest. He's not a talented enough WR to make up for the drops like TO was. He's a decent #2 (kind of like Crabtree). If the Niners were to trade Crabby I'd be all for re-signing Braylon. But the Niners need a #1 WR not 2 decent #2's.

The injuries only make the case to bring him back worse in my mind.

Injuries affect the concentration of WRs. With the Jets he dropped a total of 10 balls (6 in his 1st year: 4 in his second year) in the two years he was there. Ten isn't great, but it does put him in the category for having decent hands.

Not as talented as T.O (The future HOF) but he is one of the more talented WRs in the league when healthy. You can't just snap your fingers and get a #1 WR just like that, I'm okay with having a good #2WR (in Crabtree) and a great #2WR (in Edwards).

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It's safe to say the niners can sign Edwards for cheaper than we did his year because of the injury and the strong possibility of the 49ers being a legitimate SB contender next year.

 

[CalamityX11]

I think Ginn does get resigned. Harbs has shown some "interest" in designing plays specifically for him, whether he's the ball carrier, deep threat or decoy.... I think Ginn's versatility makes him quite appealing.