Bold Ass Predictions right here/yeah that's right/come get some of it pussies/bring your balls!!

[ericd7633]

It allows for Trubisky to showcase his arm much more than his legs, unlike OSU's has under Beck. With Wilson? We'll see.

So you're saying OSU coaches didn't want him to throw as much? Hmm. Wonder why that is?

 

[ericd7633]

In college? No question you take Barrett. Henne's best season was 1 TD better than Barrett being "average".

I'm talking about talent. Not college production. If Barrett was as talented as you proclaim, we wouldn't have been projected to go undrafted this past year and would be a top 20 QB prospect.

 

[GoldRusher]

BIG - Nebraska (My lord what a soft schedule, Huskers will be the healthiest team in CFB)
SEC - seriously? The man is from WV....and wins the SEC every year.

Big12 - WVU beats Okie State in the Big12 CCG in the battle of bad hair do's..

PAC - Washington - USC would be in this spot but they have THE dumbest AD God ever stretched skin over. Not 1 bye week yea, yall toast.

ACC - Florida State, yep, Jimbo, another WV man, winnin stuff.

Bill Snyder retires at seasons end and KState hires....Scott Frost

Now THOSE are some ballsy picks friends and neighbors

 

[tnapucco]

Crazy shit will be going down. Don't be so sure of anything. Enjoy the fleeting moments we get to live vicariously through these youngsters. GO TO A GAME. Meet some folks and talk to the opposing teams fans. Get a buzz. Yell your fucking head off. Have friends over and share the misery/ecstasy together. Football.....duh!

 

[7Samurai13]

BIG - Nebraska (My lord what a soft schedule, Huskers will be the healthiest team in CFB)
SEC - seriously? The man is from WV....and wins the SEC every year.

Big12 - WVU beats Okie State in the Big12 CCG in the battle of bad hair do's..

PAC - Washington - USC would be in this spot but they have THE dumbest AD God ever stretched skin over. Not 1 bye week yea, yall toast.

ACC - Florida State, yep, Jimbo, another WV man, winnin stuff.

Bill Snyder retires at seasons end and KState hires....Scott Frost

Now THOSE are some ballsy picks friends and neighbors

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60% of your conference champs are the favorites to win their conferences. Not ballsy at all.

 

[MarkOU]

OU spanks that ass in Columbus.

 

[outofyourmind]

OU spanks that ass in Columbus.

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[Across The Field]

I'm talking about talent. Not college production. If Barrett was as talented as you proclaim, we wouldn't have been projected to go undrafted this past year and would be a top 20 QB prospect.

Nope. The only measure of QB talent you're using is whether they fit a traditional pro style system. The question wasn't if they fit a traditional pro style system, it was overall talent. Barrett is overall more talented. You also have no idea whether he would be better than Henne, though it wouldn't be hard. He's awful. Hopefully some team gives him the shot. He's obviously more talented.

 

[ericd7633]

Nope. The only measure of QB talent you're using is whether they fit a traditional pro style system. The question wasn't if they fit a traditional pro style system, it was overall talent. Barrett is overall more talented. You also have no idea whether he would be better than Henne, though it wouldn't be hard. He's awful. Hopefully some team gives him the shot. He's obviously more talented.

I'm not doing that at all. Henne is simply more talented. And yes Henne has had a bad pro career. I'm guessing JT Barrett would take that in a heartbeat though.

 

[Across The Field]

I'm not doing that at all. Henne is simply more talented. And yes Henne has had a bad pro career. I'm guessing JT Barrett would take that in a heartbeat though.

Nope. Just plays in a pro style offense. If he was better, his career high in TDs wouldn't have been 1 above an "average" year for JT where he played in a god-awful neutered passing offense. Barrett will, once again, blow Henne's best passing numbers away this year, just like he did in 2014. That's not even including his athleticism that further proves he's more talented.

 

[ericd7633]

Nope. Just plays in a pro style offense. If he was better, his career high in TDs wouldn't have been 1 above an "average" year for JT where he played in a god-awful neutered passing offense. Barrett will, once again, blow Henne's best passing numbers away this year, just like he did in 2014. That's not even including his athleticism that further proves he's more talented.

lol, okay, keep believing that when Barrett has a chance to go undrafted. There is a reason why he was projected to go undrafted last year.

"Barrett’s name isn’t hot in NFL circles right now, especially with his completion percentage dipping for the second straight year. He finished this season at 61.5%, down from 64.7% in 2014. One NFL scout who has studied Barrett closely said the quarterback would likely go undrafted right now and thinks Barrett has “regressed as a thrower.”"

Ohio State return more lucrative for J.T. Barrett than NFL?

 

[Across The Field]

lol, okay, keep believing that when Barrett has a chance to go undrafted. There is a reason why he was projected to go undrafted last year.

"Barrett’s name isn’t hot in NFL circles right now, especially with his completion percentage dipping for the second straight year. He finished this season at 61.5%, down from 64.7% in 2014. One NFL scout who has studied Barrett closely said the quarterback would likely go undrafted right now and thinks Barrett has “regressed as a thrower.”"

Ohio State return more lucrative for J.T. Barrett than NFL?

And yet he's still more talented than Henne in the context we were both discussing to begin with. Again, continue to only talk about Barrett not fitting into the stereotypical pro style offense, it literally has nothing to do with anything that was initially discussed.

 

[ericd7633]

And yet he's still more talented than Henne in the context we were both discussing to begin with. Again, continue to only talk about Barrett not fitting into the stereotypical pro style offense, it literally has nothing to do with anything that was initially discussed.

He's not a more talented QB, which been my stance from the beginning. You're the one that brought up scheme as if it should matter.

 

[Across The Field]

He's not a more talented QB, which been my stance from the beginning. You're the one that brought up scheme as if it should matter.

Nope, that was you. I brought up production and the fact that Barrett will obliterate Henne both in passing and rushing. Henne would fail in our offense because he is strictly one-dimensional and his arm, while strong, isn't accurate enough to carry him. While Barrett doesn't have the arm strength Henne does, he's more accurate. Add to it the fact that he's lightyears more athletic and more dangerous and it's easy to see unless you're biased against OSU that Barrett is more talented as a college QB.

 

[ericd7633]

Nope, that was you. I brought up production and the fact that Barrett will obliterate Henne both in passing and rushing. Henne would fail in our offense because he is strictly one-dimensional and his arm, while strong, isn't accurate enough to carry him. While Barrett doesn't have the arm strength Henne does, he's more accurate. Add to it the fact that he's lightyears more athletic and more dangerous and it's easy to see unless you're biased against OSU that Barrett is more talented as a college QB.

Check page 4 again. You brought it up, not me. If you're projected to go undrafted, it simply means you don't have the skillset to play at the highest level. Which comes back to overall talent. Yes, I'm so biased for thinking somebody who gets drafted in the 2nd round is more talented than somebody who will go undrafted. lol Geez.

 

[Across The Field]

Check page 4 again. You brought it up, not me. If you're projected to go undrafted, it simply means you don't have the skillset to play at the highest level. Which comes back to overall talent. Yes, I'm so biased for thinking somebody who gets drafted in the 2nd round is more talented than somebody who will go undrafted. lol Geez.

No, it means you're not projected to. Why did Henne get taken in the 2nd yet Brady went in the 6th? Why was Weeden a 1st rounder while Russ Wilson was a 3rd? Why were Manziel, Tebow, and Druckenmiller taken in the 1st? Because it's not an exact science, so using draft position as the sole determining factor for "talent" is retarded. Barrett has produced, as a QB, far better stats and more wins and more success. That's talent.

 

[ericd7633]

No, it means you're not projected to. Why did Henne get taken in the 2nd yet Brady went in the 6th? Why was Weeden a 1st rounder while Russ Wilson was a 3rd? Why were Manziel, Tebow, and Druckenmiller taken in the 1st? Because it's not an exact science, so using draft position as the sole determining factor for "talent" is retarded. Barrett has produced, as a QB, far better stats and more wins and more success. That's talent.

Yep, Barrett doesn't have the skillset to even project to be drafted, so I'm supposed to believe he's more talented or has a better skillset than somebody who was drafted in the 2nd round? I wonder if Barrett will throw for almost 13,000 yards and 58 TD's at the highest level? My guess? Not a chance. So who will have better stats then?

 

[Across The Field]

Yep, Barrett doesn't have the skillset to even project to be drafted, so I'm supposed to believe he's more talented or has a better skillset than somebody who was drafted in the 2nd round? I wonder if Barrett will throw for almost 13,000 yards and 58 TD's at the highest level? My guess? Not a chance. So who will have better stats then?

What round was Kurt Warner projected to be drafted in? Warren Moon? Tony Romo? Jon Kitna? Jeff Garcia?

Your argument about Henne clearly shows that, if anything, draft position is far from a perfect indicator of talent. Henne sucks in the pros, and his overall college stats have been beaten by Barrett already, and he's only started 2.5 years compared to Henne's 4. Why? Henne's not as talented.

 

[ericd7633]

What round was Kurt Warner projected to be drafted in? Warren Moon? Tony Romo? Jon Kitna? Jeff Garcia?

Your argument about Henne clearly shows that, if anything, draft position is far from a perfect indicator of talent. Henne sucks in the pros, and his overall college stats have been beaten by Barrett already, and he's only started 2.5 years compared to Henne's 4. Why? Henne's not as talented.

All those guys proved in the NFL that they had talent to compete at the highest level. Henne proved he was talented enough to be drafted in the 2nd round. He's had an underwhelming NFL career thus far. But it's still going to be better than the NFL career that Barrett will have, which is more than likely nothing. Barrett has been a good college QB, he's no different than all the other guys that put up big numbers and don't have the skill set to play at the highest level.

 

[Across The Field]

All those guys proved in the NFL that they had talent to compete at the highest level. Henne proved he was talented enough to be drafted in the 2nd round. He's had an underwhelming NFL career thus far. But it's still going to be better than the NFL career that Barrett will have, which is more than likely nothing. Barrett has been a good college QB, he's no different than all the other guys that put up big numbers and don't have the skill set to play at the highest level.

JT Barrett, without a shadow of a doubt, would do better than a 58:81 TD:INT ratio in the NFL. Draft projections mean nothing in this comparison, unless you're pointing out how hideously overdrafted Henne was, given how bad he is. Thanks for making my point.