Best/Worst schools utilizing talent on roster

[Deep Creek]

Texas wins this contest by a Texas sized mile.
They have underachieved for 20+ years now..

Texas A&M should be on there Before Arkansas as well.

Neither program deserves a football program TBH.

20+ years...in a row? How about 10?

Now, if you go back to some of those years prior to 2000, we may well get to 20+ underachieved ones. There were several years that were absolutely pathetic between DKR and Mack.

 

[Deep Creek]

whoa whoa..20 years? You do know they did win 10 plus games 9 years in a row right? from 2001-2009 right? They also sent a lot of NFL picks throughout that stretch.. But I guess winning one MNC and losing in another makes it underachieving?

...by a thief!

 

[Thiefery]

20+ years...in a row? How about 10?

Now, if you go back to some of those years prior to 2000, we may well get to 20+ underachieved ones. There were several years that were absolutely pathetic between DKR and Mack.

This past decade between 2010 through 2017 has made it rough. Think Tom is getting it right as far as the roster. Hopefully with his reset in coaches, the development part comes through. This is Tom's transition class graduating.. from the what? 32nd rated class, has the chance to turn a 3 star OT into a first rd pick in Sam Cosmi, also have a 4 year starting OL swingman in Kersetter getting a chance to get drafted as well. Then we have the heralded 2018 class in it's third season.. The whole narrative of Texas not doing well in the draft is going to change, regardless if Tom is here to start the 2022 season or not.

 

[GoldRusher]

whoa whoa..20 years? You do know they did win 10 plus games 9 years in a row right? from 2001-2009 right? They also sent a lot of NFL picks throughout that stretch.. But I guess winning one MNC and losing in another makes it underachieving?

10 whole wins?

Its Texas, with built in in state advantages and endless supplies of money. Whooptitty freggin doo.

10 wins gets you on the hotseat at Alabama and Ohio State, the expectation level Texas SHOULD be every single year.

Heck Texas has a tough time beating lil ol WVU that should NEVER be the case.

 

[iowajerms]

I don't really understand the calculations.

THE BEST

2019 LSU - Finished #1 AP/#1 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #2
2015 recruiting - #5
2016 recruiting - #2
2017 recruiting - #7
2018 recruiting - #15

Average recruiting ranking - 6.2
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2019 Minnesota - Finished #10 AP/#10 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #57
2015 recruiting - #63
2016 recruiting - #46
2017 recruiting - #59
2018 recruiting - #38

Average recruiting ranking - 52.6
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2019 Clemson - Finished #2 AP/#2 Coaches

2014 recruting - #16
2015 recruiting - #9
2016 recruiting - #11
2017 recruiting - #16
2018 recruiting - #7

Average recruiting ranking - 11.8​

2019 Oregon - Finished #5 AP/#5 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #21
2015 recruiting - #16
2016 recruiting - #27
2017 recruiting - #19
2018 recruiting - #13

Average recruiting ranking - 19.2​

2019 Wisconsin - Finished #11 AP/#13 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #32
2015 recruiting - #41
2016 recruiting - #35
2017 recruiting - #39
2018 recruiting - #46

Average recruiting ranking - 38.6​

2019 Utah - Finished #16 AP/#16 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #66
2015 recruiting - #49
2016 recruiting - #37
2017 recruiting - #33
2018 recruiting - #33

Average recruiting ranking - 43.6​

2019 Iowa - Finished #15 AP/#15 Coaches

2014 recruiting - #58
2015 recruiting - #59
2016 recruiting - #47
2017 recruiting - #41
2018 recruiting - #39

Average recruiting ranking - 48.8
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OUT OF THESE 7, HERE IS HOW I WOULD RANK THEM.

1. Minnesota
2. Wisconsin
3. Iowa
4. Utah
5. Clemson
6. Oregon - OU could also be #5. I just feel 11 to 2 is more impressive than 19 to 5.
7. LSU

 

[Thiefery]

10 whole wins?

Its Texas, with built in in state advantages and endless supplies of money. Whooptitty freggin doo.

10 wins gets you on the hotseat at Alabama and Ohio State, the expectation level Texas SHOULD be every single year.

Heck Texas has a tough time beating lil ol WVU that should NEVER be the case.

They fired Mack and they fired Chuck after three seasons.. so you think they should fire Herman now too? Because expectations haven't changed, but the AD CDC is smart, he knows having another transition class is what got Texas this bad in the 2010's. However prior to that, Texas was expected to be in the BCS title hunt year in year out. So yes, Texas should have beaten WV despite it being the worst stretch in history while Dana had WV clicking with it's best offensive teams in history.. yet Texas still has a conference title, championship appearance more recently than WV.. but hey.. those 2014 and 2016 WV teams were AWESOME.. can't wait til TX can do that..oh wait.. that still would be sucking.

 

[Deep Creek]

10 whole wins?

Its Texas, with built in in state advantages and endless supplies of money. Whooptitty freggin doo.

10 wins gets you on the hotseat at Alabama and Ohio State, the expectation level Texas SHOULD be every single year.

Heck Texas has a tough time beating lil ol WVU that should NEVER be the case.

Wins/schmins. I repeat, the measuring stick nowadays is $! Even in those shitty years revenue was going up. Example: ESPN to Texas a few years ago. "You guys have sucked lately..therefore we are willing to pay you a truckload of money to have your own network." Texas to ESPN "You'll pay us that much money regardless of our won/loss record? Sure, we'll take it."

Piss on winning. Texans have swapped priority on winning to money.

 

[Thiefery]

Wins/schmins. I repeat, the measuring stick nowadays is $! Even in those shitty years revenue was going up. Example: ESPN to Texas a few years ago. "You guys have sucked lately..therefore we are willing to pay you a truckload of money to have your own network." Texas to ESPN "You'll pay us that much money regardless of our won/loss record? Sure, we'll take it."

Piss on winning. Texans have swapped priority on winning to money.

we would take the money too--the entire Pac conference

 

[Deep Creek]

They fired Mack and they fired Chuck after three seasons.. so you think they should fire Herman now too? Because expectations haven't changed, but the AD CDC is smart, he knows having another transition class is what got Texas this bad in the 2010's. However prior to that, Texas was expected to be in the BCS title hunt year in year out. So yes, Texas should have beaten WV despite it being the worst stretch in history while Dana had WV clicking with it's best offensive teams in history.. yet Texas still has a conference title, championship appearance more recently than WV.. but hey.. those 2014 and 2016 WV teams were AWESOME.. can't wait til TX can do that..oh wait.. that still would be sucking.

That stretch from 87-97 with McWilliams and Mackovic wasn't real stellar either.

 

[Deep Creek]

we would take the money too--the entire Pac conference

Hell yeah...that's what it is all about. B1G gladly took Rutgers and Maryland money.

 

[GoldRusher]

They fired Mack and they fired Chuck after three seasons.. so you think they should fire Herman now too? Because expectations haven't changed, but the AD CDC is smart, he knows having another transition class is what got Texas this bad in the 2010's. However prior to that, Texas was expected to be in the BCS title hunt year in year out. So yes, Texas should have beaten WV despite it being the worst stretch in history while Dana had WV clicking with it's best offensive teams in history.. yet Texas still has a conference title, championship appearance more recently than WV.. but hey.. those 2014 and 2016 WV teams were AWESOME.. can't wait til TX can do that..oh wait.. that still would be sucking.

Texas problems have been deeper (higher up) than just the HC. I do like the Delconte hire and believe that he can get it done BUT if he doesn't get Texas to the elite level then it aint gonna happen, ever.

 

[Thiefery]

That stretch from 87-97 with McWilliams and Mackovic wasn't real stellar either.

we had that 1990 season..that ended with Miami taking us out to the woodshed in Dallas

I will always have a special place in my heart for the 1996 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON!!

 

[Thiefery]

Texas problems have been deeper (higher up) than just the HC. I do like the Delconte hire and believe that he can get it done BUT if he doesn't get Texas to the elite level then it aint gonna happen, ever.

It's still the flagship in Texas, they will always be a threat to figure it out. It's not Nebraksa sir

 

[GoldRusher]

It's still the flagship in Texas, they will always be a threat to figure it out. It's not Nebraksa sir

Uh oh, they comin..

 

[BigRedMoe]

I like how we keep getting brought up in conversations. The occupation of yourn heads is what keeps us relevant. It's definitely not the product on the field.

 

[GoldRusher]

20+ years...in a row? How about 10?

Now, if you go back to some of those years prior to 2000, we may well get to 20+ underachieved ones. There were several years that were absolutely pathetic between DKR and Mack.

No its 20+.

Texas should be winning more NC’s in that span.

 

[Thiefery]

I like how we keep getting brought up in conversations. The occupation of yourn heads is what keeps us relevant. It's definitely not the product on the field.

I mean if I can't crap on Nebraska to feel good who am I supposed to direct my anger on?

 

[BigRedMoe]

I mean if I can't crap on Nebraska to feel good who am I supposed to direct my anger on?

yer mom

 

[Codaxx]

No its 20+.

Texas should be winning more NC’s in that span.

they should. I have pointed out the flaws of the Texas recruiting myth though. Texas gets a lot of solid recruits, but they have been getting their ass kicked when it comes to elite in-state talent since late Mack years. Great to get a 4 star instead of a 3star, but the difference isn’t that big. Grabbing 5 stars and #1 player in the state is completely different. Talking about the kids that were born NFL players, not the ones that need a little luck and a lot development to get there

 

[Deep Creek]

No its 20+.

Texas should be winning more NC’s in that span.

I agree with the part in bold...or at least contending for NCs with all the resources available to them. (So should A&M but that's another story.)

But, they have one BCS title in 2005 and a runner up in 2009. That ain't bad for a 10 year span. But 2010-2020 was a big underperformance.