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Best Rushing Defense Ever?

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Everyone knows that's not the problem.....It's the secondary.......Show me a MLive article about how dominant they are.....


Even the Raiders can conjure up a article about Janakowski to pretend the team is really that good.

This is the Kool Aid people talk about.....It was Flynn....Not Manning or Brady.........I'm happy as all hell for the win, but again it was Flynn.....

Hey the lions made some huge mistakes against the packers, but beating a division opponent soundly that they have struggled mightily against is a tremendous win. Are the lions a good team? I dont think so. But they are a better team than last years squad and last time they played flynn he threw for 40 tds and 1500 yards or something so theres that. The lions will get smoked next week but it was nice to see them completely dominate the packers on thanksgiving.
 

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I was actually at the Tb game. Didnt want to be engulfed in my phone there or while I was visitingfamily. AAnd I keep telling you realists you are realists at all. Your little doom and gloom act and celebrating losses so you can be right means little to me. Lions are still playoff boun, and that makes tthem a super bowl contender. Keep hatin.

And most of us dont care for your lions are the best team in the nfl talk or the lions are super bowl contenders talk, but it is your opinion, theres no need to put others down for having a different opinion than yours.
 

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Lol how was my post pessimistic dude? Because i said i didnt think they were good? I think they are average. So what? I also said how great it was to see them dominate...but ppl seem to pick the one thing they dont agree with and then label a person pessimistic or negative. I dont call you that when you say stafford sucks do I?
 

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Lol how was my post pessimistic dude? Because i said i didnt think they were good? I think they are average. So what? I also said how great it was to see them dominate...but ppl seem to pick the one thing they dont agree with and then label a person pessimistic or negative. I dont call you that when you say stafford sucks do I?

Really? You don't understand how pessimistic you are when it comes to the Lions? It's why Kreton told you to sftu. (I said, "simmer down fellas its the first quarter" instead, and aimed it at 5 or 6 of you...). And when the fuck have I EVER said Stafford sucks? Seriously, name one time. Do it. I dare you. I fucking quadruple dog dare you. You can't. Name one time I've wanted him benched, or traded or cut. You can't, cuz I've never said any of those things. Cuz I don't even think those things. I am critical of him at times. Im also critical of CJ at times. But I also think they're capable, along with their teammates, of winning next week. What was it you said up there that was going to happen? (It was pessimistic, that's what it was)
 

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Really? You don't understand how pessimistic you are when it comes to the Lions? It's why Kreton told you to sftu. (I said, "simmer down fellas its the first quarter" instead, and aimed it at 5 or 6 of you...). And when the fuck have I EVER said Stafford sucks? Seriously, name one time. Do it. I dare you. I fucking quadruple dog dare you. You can't. Name one time I've wanted him benched, or traded or cut. You can't, cuz I've never said any of those things. Cuz I don't even think those things. I am critical of him at times. Im also critical of CJ at times. But I also think they're capable, along with their teammates, of winning next week. What was it you said up there that was going to happen? (It was pessimistic, that's what it was)

Right, but all day you hate on him and CJ. But Im not allowed to say akers sucks? Lol, ok. For the record I dont talk about players needing to be cut, traded etc for a poor play either. But because I am not afraid to say what needs to be improved (theres plenty) Im a pessimist. I can talk all day about how awesome fairley, suh, stafford, levy the oline is but none of that matters if I think the lions arent a great team because they are inconsistent and shoot themselves in the foot over and over. Kreton telling me to stfu is just an example of his ignorance. Geezus we had several ppl in here talking about how suh, fairley and ansah sucked just a week ago. Fucking ridiculous.
 

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Honestly its just mindboggling how often people on here are labelled negative, and pessimistic and told to stfu because they have a varying viewpoint. Its really just ridiculous is what it is. But yeah, keep up the good work. I guess you are a pessimist as well for your hatred of JL? Seriously man.
 

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Ok new forum rules.
From now on in order to be a lions fan you must meet these conditions.
1. They are the best team every week regardless of who they are playing
2. No one on the team sucks nor should be cut. The coach who shall be nameless will coach until he retires, since its pessimistic to say anything against him
3. If the kool aid drinkers say a player or coach is bad, thats ok. Just nod and smile
4. Dont ever make a comment that can be perceived as negative about their awful pass defense. Did I say awful, I meant to say great.
5. Have an extremely short term memory. So what they got embarrassed against the bucs and steelers, they disappeared for entire halves, they turn the ball over at an astronomical rate. Forget that, thats old news. They dominated the packers ( who arent scaring anyone nowadays).
6. Every team they beat or lose to is always one of the better teams in the NFL.
7. If they cut a player he sucked. But until the second hes cut hes a valuable asset to the team. Oh, and the guy they replaced him with? He sucks in our mind until we pick him up then its a great pickup.
Follow these rules friends so that we all can unite and be the best fans ever. Come on guys! We can do it!
 

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Best ever? You mean best lions rushing defense ever?

It was a bit tongue-in-cheek. We're not "the" best ever, clearly, but this last 9 week stretch has been better than any team in the modern NFL has ever played run defense. That's no exaggeration either, we've been completely lights-out. Also, we're the only team (I believe) who hasn't given up a 100 yard rusher this year.

So best ever? No. Best Lions run defense ever? Probably. Best 10 week stretch in modern NFL history? Yes.
 

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Lol how was my post pessimistic dude? Because i said i didnt think they were good? I think they are average. So what? I also said how great it was to see them dominate...but ppl seem to pick the one thing they dont agree with and then label a person pessimistic or negative. I dont call you that when you say stafford sucks do I?

I try hard to stay off your case since I think people probably got sick of us arguing, but I see Smitty's point of view here. That last line, about how we'll get "smoked" against a very average Eagles team is the kind of comment that stirs people up. There's no reason to think they're going to smoke us- just looking at the numbers they have one of the worst passing defenses in the league, and we have one of the best passing offenses in the league, so that right there should be enough to sway any thought process that we're going to get beat badly by the Eagles.

Just my two cents, though. You're free to think we'll get smoked, but I can understand why fans on here would take offense to that statement...
 

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It was a bit tongue-in-cheek. We're not "the" best ever, clearly, but this last 9 week stretch has been better than any team in the modern NFL has ever played run defense. That's no exaggeration either, we've been completely lights-out. Also, we're the only team (I believe) who hasn't given up a 100 yard rusher this year.

So best ever? No. Best Lions run defense ever? Probably. Best 10 week stretch in modern NFL history? Yes.

Ah ok, i agree they have been dominant. It was only a week ago though that several fans were talking about how the dline sucked etc. Im not sure how they came up with that idea. But dont let others here see this post. I dont want to be confused as someone that only has positive things to say about the team. Oh just to make sure Im not confused, akers sucks.
 

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I try hard to stay off your case since I think people probably got sick of us arguing, but I see Smitty's point of view here. That last line, about how we'll get "smoked" against a very average Eagles team is the kind of comment that stirs people up. There's no reason to think they're going to smoke us- just looking at the numbers they have one of the worst passing defenses in the league, and we have one of the best passing offenses in the league, so that right there should be enough to sway any thought process that we're going to get beat badly by the Eagles.

Just my two cents, though. You're free to think we'll get smoked, but I can understand why fans on here would take offense to that statement...

Its fine for other fans to have opinions, but for the record I also said they would beat the packers, bucs and steelers. I know everyone wants so hard for there to be a bad guy. How dare I suggest they will lose on the road to a potential playoff team? Btw if philly is average so is detroit. They are both 7-5, and the eagles beat the cardinals. Its really not that much of a stretch. Has everyone forgotten the bucs, cardinals, and steelers? Seriously. See my forum rules, short term memory.
 

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Right, but all day you hate on him and CJ. But Im not allowed to say akers sucks? Lol, ok. For the record I dont talk about players needing to be cut, traded etc for a poor play either. But because I am not afraid to say what needs to be improved (theres plenty) Im a pessimist. I can talk all day about how awesome fairley, suh, stafford, levy the oline is but none of that matters if I think the lions arent a great team because they are inconsistent and shoot themselves in the foot over and over. Kreton telling me to stfu is just an example of his ignorance. Geezus we had several ppl in here talking about how suh, fairley and ansah sucked just a week ago. Fucking ridiculous.

Your statement of "we're going to get smoked next week" is an example of you being a pessimist. There's no other way to look at it. The Eagles and Lions have identical records. Last time they faced off in Philly, in 2012, Detroit won. I understand there are several of you who pride yourself on being a "realist". It's just not the case when it comes to your Lionsfandom. (Not just you... theres a wait for the table)You're pessimistic and you certainly aren't alone. (Wont hear me complain if you call this team average. And you haven't. It's the hardcore pessimism ill call you out on.)
 

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Its fine for other fans to have opinions, but for the record I also said they would beat the packers, bucs and steelers. I know everyone wants so hard for there to be a bad guy. How dare I suggest they will lose on the road to a potential playoff team? Btw if philly is average so is detroit. They are both 7-5, and the eagles beat the cardinals. Its really not that much of a stretch. Has everyone forgotten the bucs, cardinals, and steelers? Seriously. See my forum rules, short term memory.

You didn't "suggest they will lose". Hell, Im probably going to take Philly in the Pickems....
 

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Besides the arizona game, GB on the road (maybe) and possibly the bengals game, this game is the toughest on their soft schedule. I just dont get how someone can say the 7-5 eagles are average while the 7-5 lions are as well

Common opponents
Bucs-eagles won at tampa we lost at home
Packers- eagles won at GB, we lost at GB won at home
Redskins-both won on road. Eagles also won at home
Cardinals-we lost on road, eagles won at home
Cowboys- we won at home, eagles lost at home

Eagles also have two losses against denver and kansas city.

Lions also have a horrible pass defense, eagles dropped 50 on oakland. The eagles are as good if not better than detroit. They have had a tougher schedule and they play us at home. They have done better against common opponents. I dont get why its so pessimistic of me to think we will get our asses kicked.
 

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Why do you think they'll get their asses kicked? Losses and asskickings are a lot different to me. Like reality and pessimism.
 

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Your statement of "we're going to get smoked next week" is an example of you being a pessimist. There's no other way to look at it. The Eagles and Lions have identical records. Last time they faced off in Philly, in 2012, Detroit won. I understand there are several of you who pride yourself on being a "realist". It's just not the case when it comes to your Lionsfandom. (Not just you... theres a wait for the table)You're pessimistic and you certainly aren't alone. (Wont hear me complain if you call this team average. And you haven't. It's the hardcore pessimism ill call you out on.)

And someone else saying eagles are average is an example of a homer. I think they will get smoked, but not sure how that makes me a pessimist. I dont get how its ok for kool aid fans to talk about the lions being super bowl contenders which is ridiculos bu not ok for me to think they will get smoked on the road sgainst a team as good or better than us. Its really not that much of a stretch. Even if I said, I think the lions will lose sunday I would still hear all the bullshit.
 

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Why do you think they'll get their asses kicked? Losses and asskickings are a lot different to me. Like reality and pessimism.

They disappear for halves, they turn the ball over way too much, they get way too many stupid penalties, they are on the road against a good team that can put up points. Their pass defense is not good.
 

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Why do you think they'll get their asses kicked? Losses and asskickings are a lot different to me. Like reality and pessimism.

And reality and optimism...
 

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Twelve games into the season and the lions have won once against a team with a winning record. The 7-5 cowboys. As Ive been saying all season the lions are huge beneficiaries of an extremely soft schedule and they are STILL floundering. But alas, theres nothing realistic about that. They have been embarrassed against awful teams, they turn the ball over at an alarming rate, they were awful in their home opener against minnesota for the first fucking half. If thats not any indicator and it has been, I dont know how many more sign you need. The lions are better than last year but by no means have they won a game against a great team. There should be plenty of concern abou how inconsistent their team is as a whole but plenty of praise for their oline and dline, CJ, and staff. They have a ways to go. If you find that analysis pessimistic, good for you. I find it realistic.
 
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