Game Thread: Bengals @ Texans

[flamingrey]

I dont have a dog in this fight, but I was curious so looked into it. It looks like its both nfl rules and part of the contract

http://www.lawinsider.com/contracts/672oIK2jXlaSxi6rT3pLLC/fantex-inc/national-football-league/2013-10-17http://

4.PUBLICITY AND NFLPA GROUP LICENSING PROGRAM. (a) Player grants to Club and the League, separately and together, the authority to use his name and picture for publicity and the promotion of NFL Football, the League or any of its member clubs in newspapers, magazines, motion pictures, game programs and roster manuals, broadcasts and telecasts, and all other publicity and advertising media, provided such publicity and promotion does not constitute an endorsement by Player of a commercial product. Player will cooperate with the news media, and will participate upon request in reasonable activities to promote the Club and the League. Player and National Football League Players Association, hereinafter “NFLPA,” will not contest the rights of the League and its member clubs to telecast, broadcast, or otherwise transmit NFL Football or the right of NFL Films to produce, sell, market, or distribute football game film footage, except insofar as such broadcast, telecast, or transmission of footage is used in any commercially marketable game or interactive use. The League and its member clubs, and Player and the NFLPA, reserve their respective rights as to the use of such broadcasts, telecasts or transmissions of footage in such games or interactive uses, which shall be unaffected by this subparagraph.

Another solid find.

So while the above is a snippet from part of Arian Foster's contract, I'd assume it is part of every player's contract. And the above I'd assume is also what binds them to the NFL Policy that you had posted a few posts earlier.

So, it is not a contractual agreement with the media, rather one between the NFL and the players because their cooperation with the media is (not contractually obligated, but) "essential to the continuing popularity of our game and its players and coaches." [--NFL Policy - from the snippet I had posted]

 

[DanBengalfan]

yea

 

[bengaldoug]

Someone pm me when a player somewhere says something enlightening, or even memorable............

 

[Gypsumstack]

Argument A: Why would the NFL mandate that players and coaches must speak to the media if the it wasn't also mandated to the NFL to do so? What exactly does the NFL have to gain from forcing a malcontent like Lynch in front of the cameras when he clearly doesn't want to be there? It seems logical to assume that the rule was put into place by the NFL because the media told the NFL to make the rule.

Argument B: If the NFL mandate is indeed a part of the media contracts, then why are non-NFL affiliated media included in the NFL mandate? If the media rule is dictated by the contracts the NFL has with CBS, Fox, NBC, and ESPN then why is Yahoo, The Washington Post, and Jimmy's Great Football Blog also allowed to be represented at the media events? If the rule is solely based on the NFL's media contracts, you wouldn't have strippers and guys in chicken costumes asking questions at the Superbowl media days.

There is a valid case for both sides of the argument.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Argument A: Why would the NFL mandate that players and coaches must speak to the media if the it wasn't also mandated to the NFL to do so? What exactly does the NFL have to gain from forcing a malcontent like Lynch in front of the cameras when he clearly doesn't want to be there? It seems logical to assume that the rule was put into place by the NFL because the media told the NFL to make the rule.

Argument B: If the NFL mandate is indeed a part of the media contracts, then why are non-NFL affiliated media included in the NFL mandate? If the media rule is dictated by the contracts the NFL has with CBS, Fox, NBC, and ESPN then why is Yahoo, The Washington Post, and Jimmy's Great Football Blog also allowed to be represented at the media events? If the rule is solely based on the NFL's media contracts, you wouldn't have strippers and guys in chicken costumes asking questions at the Superbowl media days.

There is a valid case for both sides of the argument.

A is dead on and what my initial argument was about. It is pretty damn clear that the media required that rule be written in order to protect their rights and allow them to have access to the stars in order to print those papers, or sell those advertisements. If the media is going to shell out billions of dollars, there is no way they do not force the NFL to provide them damn near full access.

B would be based, I would imagine, on what the league considers a valid news source and would allow that representative into the interview. I would imagine B is what allows the league to spread their brand into further reaches of the public.

I also appreciate the backup with the research by Alf since Flaming was going to be too damn lazy to support his case which was clearly wrong. PS...Is still clearly wrong.

 

[DanBengalfan]

maybe

 

[flamingrey]

A is dead on and what my initial argument was about. It is pretty damn clear that the media required that rule be written in order to protect their rights and allow them to have access to the stars in order to print those papers, or sell those advertisements. If the media is going to shell out billions of dollars, there is no way they do not force the NFL to provide them damn near full access.

B would be based, I would imagine, on what the league considers a valid news source and would allow that representative into the interview. I would imagine B is what allows the league to spread their brand into further reaches of the public.

I also appreciate the backup with the research by Alf since Flaming was going to be too damn lazy to support his case which was clearly wrong. PS...Is still clearly wrong.

The last line is great. You've done no research to support your case either, yet I'm "lazy". That's gold.

The facts have always eluded you, Crash. This isn't surprising.

Edit: Actually, I did dig up and post an article in an earlier post. Facts, Crash. Facts.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The last line is great. You've done no research to support your case either, yet I'm "lazy". That's gold.

The facts have always eluded you, Crash. This isn't surprising.

Edit: Actually, I did dig up and post an article in an earlier post. Facts, Crash. Facts.

I didn't need to provide my case. You needed to provide yours, as mine stance was common f'n sense.

Billions of dollars = full access

 

[Cincyfan78]

NFL Media Policy | Pro Football Writers of America

 

[Gypsumstack]

10-12 minutes is a "reasonable waiting period" for post game? That's just stupid. Give the players half an hour to shower at least.

 

[DanBengalfan]

if you need a half an hour to shower, then your not actually getting clean, ha ha ha

 

[Cincyfan78]

I would imagine that there is something in each players actual contract that states something to them following media regulations as set fort by the team.

Though, I've not found anything specific in searching, other than what's already been posted. However, it makes sense that it's contractual somewhere, and that the NFLPA has agreed on it, or the NFL wouldn't have the power to fine them. If the NFL didn't have that power and tried to fine the player(s), the NFLPA would be all over that.

 

[Cincyfan78]

10-12 minutes is a "reasonable waiting period" for post game? That's just stupid. Give the players half an hour to shower at least.

It's barely long enough to take a good shit.

if you need a half an hour to shower, then your not actually getting clean, ha ha ha

When you consider 10-12 minutes, you need to get all that gear off, grab your stuff, and get into the shower...without even showering, that's a 20 minute process right there.

 

[cincygrad]

 

[DanBengalfan]

It's barely long enough to take a good shit.



When you consider 10-12 minutes, you need to get all that gear off, grab your stuff, and get into the shower...without even showering, that's a 20 minute process right there.

guess you may be right. but, my son wore all that gear for k-1 football, was not a lot of fun to mess with, but we got pretty fast at getting it on and off with practice.

 

[flamingrey]

NFL Now: YOUR NFL. YOUR WAY. NOW.

Another guy who has never been a fan of the media.

His Pro Bowl vote response was gold.

 

[DanBengalfan]

lol