Game Thread: Bengals @ Texans

[kramer1]

Quite verbose, eh?

He's an ass

 

[bengaldoug]

He's an ass

He is, but if more players gave answers like that we would maybe be subjected to less stupid interviews of players and coaches who in most cases have little insight to offer. I have no interest in what players have to say about anything. I just want my teams to win, and my players to fit into society without committing crimes.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

He is, but if more players gave answers like that we would maybe be subjected to less stupid interviews of players and coaches who in most cases have little insight to offer. I have no interest in what players have to say about anything. I just want my teams to win, and my players to fit into society without committing crimes.

The problem is, interviews are part of his job and part of what he is being paid for. You think these tv contracts are just given to teams to pay players because they are trying to be nice? Of course not. Players are subjected to these interviews whether they like it or not, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THEIR JOB!

Do your job Marshawn you freaking lazy bastard!

 

[DanBengalfan]

The problem is, interviews are part of his job and part of what he is being paid for. You think these tv contracts are just given to teams to pay players because they are trying to be nice? Of course not. Players are subjected to these interviews whether they like it or not, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THEIR JOB!

Do your job Marshawn you freaking lazy bastard!

yea

 

[cincygrad]

The problem is, interviews are part of his job and part of what he is being paid for. You think these tv contracts are just given to teams to pay players because they are trying to be nice? Of course not. Players are subjected to these interviews whether they like it or not, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THEIR JOB!

Do your job Marshawn you freaking lazy bastard!

Well, it was that stupid donkey team that you root for that started this type of behavior. They used to have an offensive line that wouldn't talk to the media and everyone said they were "leaders."

 

[flamingrey]

The problem is, interviews are part of his job and part of what he is being paid for. You think these tv contracts are just given to teams to pay players because they are trying to be nice? Of course not. Players are subjected to these interviews whether they like it or not, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THEIR JOB!

Do your job Marshawn you freaking lazy bastard!

No, those TV contracts are "just" given to teams to pay players to PLAY the game. They aren't given for media interviews, though that is what the LEAGUE requires. I'm with Doug, I couldn't care less what the players have to say. The media looks for any and every opportunity to take comments out of context to create controversies and for misleading headlines all for clicks. I don't blame the players at all. The media people have no integrity.

If the league gives him problems, he could just start giving interviews like Belichick has for years. "On to (next team on schedule)".

 

[kramer1]

Mallett out for the season. Fitz is the better QB anyways.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

No, those TV contracts are "just" given to teams to pay players to PLAY the game. They aren't given for media interviews, though that is what the LEAGUE requires. I'm with Doug, I couldn't care less what the players have to say. The media looks for any and every opportunity to take comments out of context to create controversies and for misleading headlines all for clicks. I don't blame the players at all. The media people have no integrity.

If the league gives him problems, he could just start giving interviews like Belichick has for years. "On to (next team on schedule)".

I don't think so. I think the league is required per the contractual agreement with (paying media sources contributing to revenue sharing) that players and coaches have to make themselves available for interviews prior to games and at times during the week. This allows the news sources to have continuous access to these stars and coaches to improve their ratings and increase fan interest towards their network.

Now, that doesn't mean that players can't be complete tools like Marshawn was to the media, but they have to make themselves available whether they want to or not per league agreement with paying media.

I cannot even believe they wouldn't have that in the media agreement, so unless you can find something that states otherwise, I think you have to assume that is in place considering it has been said many times that players have to make themselves available to the media. Why would the league require it if they were not getting paid as part of that agreement with the media? They wouldn't.

 

[bengaldoug]

I really have no opinion on whether it should be part of their job or not, I just couldn't give a flying fuck what most of them have to say. I could be a Seattle fan for the rest of Marshawn Lynch's career and never hear him speak and I'm not missing anything. I'd still be cheering for him when he runs over a linebacker into the end zone.

 

[bengaldoug]

No, those TV contracts are "just" given to teams to pay players to PLAY the game. They aren't given for media interviews, though that is what the LEAGUE requires. I'm with Doug, I couldn't care less what the players have to say. The media looks for any and every opportunity to take comments out of context to create controversies and for misleading headlines all for clicks. I don't blame the players at all. The media people have no integrity.

If the league gives him problems, he could just start giving interviews like Belichick has for years. "On to (next team on schedule)".

This is what I mean. Rey just said it better. I have zero respect for the media concerning either sports or politics. They take cheap shots and ruin people's lives by trying to create stories that aren't there.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I really have no opinion on whether it should be part of their job or not, I just couldn't give a flying fuck what most of them have to say. I could be a Seattle fan for the rest of Marshawn Lynch's career and never hear him speak and I'm not missing anything. I'd still be cheering for him when he runs over a linebacker into the end zone.

I agree. However, instead of acting like a complete douche, just give the same run of the mill cliche's to get through a dumb interview he doesn't want to do.

At the beginning of the interview that lady asked him a decent question, but he could have been more diplomatic and just said, "Yeah, they did well."

Doesn't take that much to avoid an interview with canned responses. Pretty soon the reporters will just move on because they are bored. However, with an interview like that, the media is likely to keep hounding him with questions and let him dig himself more of a whole and paint himself as even more of a douche bag. Trust me, that interview netted him more questions than if he just gave canned answers during the interview. Why? Because it gave the media an enemy to hang.

 

[bengaldoug]

I agree. However, instead of acting like a complete douche, just give the same run of the mill cliche's to get through a dumb interview he doesn't want to do.

At the beginning of the interview that lady asked him a decent question, but he could have been more diplomatic and just said, "Yeah, they did well."

Doesn't take that much to avoid an interview with canned responses. Pretty soon the reporters will just move on because they are bored. However, with an interview like that, the media is likely to keep hounding him with questions and let him dig himself more of a whole and paint himself as even more of a douche bag. Trust me, that interview netted him more questions than if he just gave canned answers during the interview. Why? Because it gave the media an enemy to hang.

It's those cliche's that drive me crazy. I don't know how many times when watching and listening to an interview I end up entertaining myself with counting how many "you knows" the player spits out. Most of them have nothing to say, and I also think their privacy should be respected just after they have miserably lost a game. The sideline interviews are the worst. Here the coach who is down big at halftime is trying to figure out how to turn things around and the last thing he needs is some stupid reporter sticking a mike in his face as he's trying to get to the locker room and asking him some inane question about why his team is getting their ass kicked.

 

[DanBengalfan]

yea

 

[flamingrey]

I don't think so. I think the league is required per the contractual agreement with (paying media sources contributing to revenue sharing) that players and coaches have to make themselves available for interviews prior to games and at times during the week. This allows the news sources to have continuous access to these stars and coaches to improve their ratings and increase fan interest towards their network.

Now, that doesn't mean that players can't be complete tools like Marshawn was to the media, but they have to make themselves available whether they want to or not per league agreement with paying media.

I cannot even believe they wouldn't have that in the media agreement, so unless you can find something that states otherwise, I think you have to assume that is in place considering it has been said many times that players have to make themselves available to the media. Why would the league require it if they were not getting paid as part of that agreement with the media? They wouldn't.

First of all, you don't just assume that some language is in a contract. If not known, the natural assumption is that it is not there. Unless you see it written in there. SO, unless you can find something that states otherwise, you have to assume it is not there.

Secondly, each individual entity would have to have their own contract with the NFL. Fox, CBS, ESPN, NFL Network aren't writing contracts for local writers.

Lastly, there hasn't been a single comment or article from anyone suggesting that they are required to based on their contract with the networks. The article below talks about the "history" of media relations with the NFL, but again doesn't mention anything about an obligation from the networks.

Archive » Jerk mode: Marshawn Lynch and why athletes need to talk to the media » National Sports Journalism Center

On a side note, I think the article was written by someone with the "maturity level of a 4-year-old." It's hilarious reading these articles and watching these clowns go up in arms over the whole situation.

 

[DanBengalfan]

yea

 

[CrashDavisSports]

First of all, you don't just assume that some language is in a contract. If not known, the natural assumption is that it is not there. Unless you see it written in there. SO, unless you can find something that states otherwise, you have to assume it is not there.

Secondly, each individual entity would have to have their own contract with the NFL. Fox, CBS, ESPN, NFL Network aren't writing contracts for local writers.

Lastly, there hasn't been a single comment or article from anyone suggesting that they are required to based on their contract with the networks. The article below talks about the "history" of media relations with the NFL, but again doesn't mention anything about an obligation from the networks.

Archive » Jerk mode: Marshawn Lynch and why athletes need to talk to the media » National Sports Journalism Center

On a side note, I think the article was written by someone with the "maturity level of a 4-year-old." It's hilarious reading these articles and watching these clowns go up in arms over the whole situation.

I have seen several interviews where the interviewee flat out states he is not interested in doing the interview but the league requires them to do it, so here we are. Therefore, since they have said, "they are required by the league to provide the interview", I assume it is in the contract of the league with the media, not the other way around. I am sorry, but burden of proof this time is on you.

I believe I have even heard Marvin say something along those lines as well. If the league was not requiring it, Marvin certainly would rarely if ever talk to the media following a game, during the week about an upcoming game, etc. You know Belichek sure wouldn't speak to the media. Sorry bud, this one is on you.

 

[alf8478]

NFL Media Policy | Pro Football Writers of America

Players – Players must be available to the media following every game and regularly during the practice week as required under league rules and their contracts and as noted above. It is not permissible for any player or any group of players to boycott the media. Star players, or other players with unusually heavy media demands, must be available to the media that regularly cover their teams at least once during the practice week in addition to their required post-game media availability. This applies to a maximum of one or two players per team only. The minimum for such players does not include other required media obligations such as visiting team conference calls, network production meetings, and national media interviews arranged by the team.

 

[flamingrey]

I have seen several interviews where the interviewee flat out states he is not interested in doing the interview but the league requires them to do it, so here we are. Therefore, since they have said, "they are required by the league to provide the interview", I assume it is in the contract of the league with the media, not the other way around. I am sorry, but burden of proof this time is on you.

I believe I have even heard Marvin say something along those lines as well. If the league was not requiring it, Marvin certainly would rarely if ever talk to the media following a game, during the week about an upcoming game, etc. You know Belichek sure wouldn't speak to the media. Sorry bud, this one is on you.

I'm pretty sure you don't know how "burden of proof" works.

Imagine going to court with this. You can make any argument you want, but regardless of how logical it may seem to you, the court is not going to assume verbiage is in a contract. Either it can be proven that it is in there, or the court is going to rule that it is not.

 

[flamingrey]

NFL Media Policy | Pro Football Writers of America

Players – Players must be available to the media following every game and regularly during the practice week as required under league rules and their contracts and as noted above. It is not permissible for any player or any group of players to boycott the media. Star players, or other players with unusually heavy media demands, must be available to the media that regularly cover their teams at least once during the practice week in addition to their required post-game media availability. This applies to a maximum of one or two players per team only. The minimum for such players does not include other required media obligations such as visiting team conference calls, network production meetings, and national media interviews arranged by the team.

Thank you.

So, the article starts with:

Reasonable cooperation with the news media is essential to the continuing popularity of our game and its players and coaches. The following league policy is reviewed and updated annually and remains standard operating procedure:

and ends with:

22. VIOLATIONS – Violations of the above procedures will be considered conduct detrimental to the league and will be subject to disciplinary action by the commissioner.

So this is clearly NFL policy, not any contractual obligation. And based on the last section, the NFL essentially considers it to have been collectively bargained with the players as it becomes a violation of player conduct if not adhered to.

 

[alf8478]

I dont have a dog in this fight, but I was curious so looked into it. It looks like its both nfl rules and part of the contract

http://www.lawinsider.com/contracts/672oIK2jXlaSxi6rT3pLLC/fantex-inc/national-football-league/2013-10-17http://

4.PUBLICITY AND NFLPA GROUP LICENSING PROGRAM. (a) Player grants to Club and the League, separately and together, the authority to use his name and picture for publicity and the promotion of NFL Football, the League or any of its member clubs in newspapers, magazines, motion pictures, game programs and roster manuals, broadcasts and telecasts, and all other publicity and advertising media, provided such publicity and promotion does not constitute an endorsement by Player of a commercial product. Player will cooperate with the news media, and will participate upon request in reasonable activities to promote the Club and the League. Player and National Football League Players Association, hereinafter “NFLPA,” will not contest the rights of the League and its member clubs to telecast, broadcast, or otherwise transmit NFL Football or the right of NFL Films to produce, sell, market, or distribute football game film footage, except insofar as such broadcast, telecast, or transmission of footage is used in any commercially marketable game or interactive use. The League and its member clubs, and Player and the NFLPA, reserve their respective rights as to the use of such broadcasts, telecasts or transmissions of footage in such games or interactive uses, which shall be unaffected by this subparagraph.