Bengals Next Offensive Coordinator

[CrashDavisSports]

There is no way that Hue doesn't get another HC gig next year with the way this offense has been playing, how creative he is, and how much players like him and how he demands respect.

With that said, is it best to promote from within, and try to stick with the same exact style that Hue has created here, as Zimmer did with Gunther?

I say Ken Zampese is the next logical choice as he is already Dalton's QB coach, has worked closely with Hue to maximize Dalton's talent, and should be able to regurgitate the same style offense for Dalton and the offense so even though coordinators keep coming and going the offense doesn't have to keep changing so much with terminology and style.

As long as we keep finding the right guys to replicate with Zimmer and Hue have created from within, I don't see the need to go land a big name guy to be DC or OC, just a quality coach that can stick with the same style already set forth. Kind of what Bill Belicheck has done in New England.

We are losing Hue, no other way around it. I just don't think the offense has to really change just because he is leaving. The players love Zampese, and while it may take him a couple years to be as good as Hue as the signal caller, I don't think he should produce much worse with the talented weapons around Dalton who seems to be growing into his own.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Best landing spot for Hue?

I think it is Jacksonville with that young talented offense with no identity yet.

Bortles, Hurns, Blackmon, Robinson, Yeldon, etc. He could really do something there, along with a division that is complete garbage. Worst division in football. A chance to possibly turn that team into a playoff team due to division weakness in year 1.

 

[alf8478]

I don't think Hue is getting a head coaching job, unless it is replacing Marvin after another embarrassing first round playoff loss.

 

[cincygrad]

I think Hue will get another shot. People tend to overrate his one year in Oakland after he had a team that started fast and fell apart toward the end. What he's doing with Dalton is impressive and given all the young qbs in the league, you'd figure someone would want to give him a shot. Jacksonville would be interesting if they decide to pull the plug on Bradley. Tennessee would also be a nice fit if they give up on Wisenhunt. Both of those places will probably look for a cheaper option and Hue would fit the bill.

Zampese would be the most likely internal candidate, but I'm not sure we'd go internal. Also worth noting that his wife is battling cancer which might prevent him from taking on a new position right now.

Jay Gruden might be available.....

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I hope it is not Jay Gruden again. He was decent but I like the new style of offense which seems to suit Andy Dalton better than Gruden's offense did.

Yeah, I can see Tennessee too with a young talented offense and a franchise type QB just drafted. Hue would be great for Mariotta.

Jax or Tennessee seems like the most likely of destinations.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I think Hue will get another shot. People tend to overrate his one year in Oakland after he had a team that started fast and fell apart toward the end. What he's doing with Dalton is impressive and given all the young qbs in the league, you'd figure someone would want to give him a shot. Jacksonville would be interesting if they decide to pull the plug on Bradley. Tennessee would also be a nice fit if they give up on Wisenhunt. Both of those places will probably look for a cheaper option and Hue would fit the bill.

Zampese would be the most likely internal candidate, but I'm not sure we'd go internal. Also worth noting that his wife is battling cancer which might prevent him from taking on a new position right now.

Jay Gruden might be available.....

Well, most people don't overrate his season in Oakland, in my opinion. What I think they do is blame him for the Palmer trade that was lopsided at the time in favor of Cincinnati. His team was playing great football until he lost his starting QB, Jason Campbell, and they traded for a guy that was sitting on his couch for several weeks and missed an entire training camp while giving up a ton. I think what got him fired was that trade he wanted so badly and his one tirade. Hue will make one hell of a great HC. He just needs the right situation and a little leeway. He goes to Jacksonville and is given 3 full years to start turning that program around (since he has some good pieces in place already) without fear of losing his job and I think he could succeed.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

If CIN continues on this pace it's pretty much assured that Hue gets another HC gig.

As of today...MIA is open...we can look for IND, TN, maybe JAX to be in the market as well. Maybe even NO, but that would have to be a trade of some sort.

 

[cincygrad]

A lot will depend on what happens with Sean Peyton..... Word is that he wants to move on and Indy and Miami would be interested.

I can't imagine anyone wanting that New Orleans job. They are in salary cap jail and will need to rebuild around a new quarterback. It's probably time for Brees to play out his last years somewhere else.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Well, most people don't overrate his season in Oakland, in my opinion. What I think they do is blame him for the Palmer trade that was lopsided at the time in favor of Cincinnati. His team was playing great football until he lost his starting QB, Jason Campbell, and they traded for a guy that was sitting on his couch for several weeks and missed an entire training camp while giving up a ton. I think what got him fired was that trade he wanted so badly and his one tirade. Hue will make one hell of a great HC. He just needs the right situation and a little leeway. He goes to Jacksonville and is given 3 full years to start turning that program around (since he has some good pieces in place already) without fear of losing his job and I think he could succeed.

idk all the details, but I do understand that Hue rubbed some brass the wrong way in OAK...he got a pretty quick hook...Maybe he wanted Palmer and the deal was made because of him, but doubtful Jackson was handling personnel in OAK.

I can see Hue back in Cali with the SF job, but we'll have to see how the openings shape up.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

A lot will depend on what happens with Sean Peyton..... Word is that he wants to move on and Indy and Miami would be interested.

I can't imagine anyone wanting that New Orleans job. They are in salary cap jail and will need to rebuild around a new quarterback. It's probably time for Brees to play out his last years somewhere else.

Payton probably fits the MIA model because he's going to be expensive to get...at least a 2nd round pick, maybe a 1st + the contract....I don't see IND doing that.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

If CIN continues on this pace it's pretty much assured that Hue gets another HC gig.

As of today...MIA is open...we can look for IND, TN, maybe JAX to be in the market as well. Maybe even NO, but that would have to be a trade of some sort.

I do not see them slowing down. We have weapons everywhere as long as we stay healthy. That was a huge difference last year. Lost Burfict for half the season, Green missed 3 full games and sat out the 2nd half of 3 or 4 other games, Jones was gone all last year along with Eifert. Hill sat the bench the first half the season as Bernard struggled with no other weapons on the field besides Sanu.

What is weird, I think Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are both top 5 offenses this year out of a division known for smash mouth football, running games and defense. You get Ben back with all those play makers healthy and active, they will be an offense that should put up 30+ points a game.

It will be interesting to see the shootout in Pitt in two weeks with these two teams if Ben is healthy. Scary challenge for Cincinnati but this team seems different this year. They haven't flinched in the face of adversity. This is not a 16-0 team by any means. They have to lose a few games here and there, so any week it is possible they lose and a divisional game in Pitt where we are not so great after a BYE week typically, could spell our first loss with a healthy Roethlisberger. If Jones is still your starter that week, I would actually favor Cincinnati, but if Ben is healthy, I actually think Pitt should be favored. But you never know from week to week.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Payton probably fits the MIA model because he's going to be expensive to get...at least a 2nd round pick, maybe a 1st + the contract....I don't see IND doing that.

I am not sure why Payton is so highly touted. He came into the team with a franchise QB and was lucky to get one of the top 2 TE's in all of football to compliment his QB. If you can land a franchise QB with an elite play maker at WR or TE you are going to put up wins with the offense if the defense doesn't completely suck. They have a pretty good DC also. I just do not see Payton being worth more than a Hue Jackson.

Between that trade for Palmer and Jackson's one media burst going off on his team, he got shit canned. That may have warranted him getting canned, but his coaching and the product he helped put on the field didn't warrant getting canned. Oakland had been terrible with pretty much the same team the previous few years, and he turned them around in 1 season with a journeyman QB, who got hurt and then had to wait for Palmer to get up to speed. Palmer could not succeed behind that offensive line, that needed completely rebuilt.

He was not given nearly enough time due to 2 incidents.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I am not sure why Payton is so highly touted. He came into the team with a franchise QB and was lucky to get one of the top 2 TE's in all of football to compliment his QB. If you can land a franchise QB with an elite play maker at WR or TE you are going to put up wins with the offense if the defense doesn't completely suck. They have a pretty good DC also. I just do not see Payton being worth more than a Hue Jackson.

Between that trade for Palmer and Jackson's one media burst going off on his team, he got shit canned. That may have warranted him getting canned, but his coaching and the product he helped put on the field didn't warrant getting canned. Oakland had been terrible with pretty much the same team the previous few years, and he turned them around in 1 season with a journeyman QB, who got hurt and then had to wait for Palmer to get up to speed. Palmer could not succeed behind that offensive line, that needed completely rebuilt.

He was not given nearly enough time due to 2 incidents.

Payton came from a strong coaching tree...many feel he was instrumental in developing Romo and thought he was the best candidate for the DAL job. I thought he was the best playcaller in the game for a long time.

Brees...many thought he was damaged goods coming from SD and he was...the shoulder was considered a wreck. He was a good QB in SD, but really developed into an elite player when paired with Payton imo. They turned a perennial loser into SB champions.

A Parcells disciple so I think he had a hand in building the team with Loomis...Graham...3rd rd pick...maybe the 4th TE off the board...the point I'm making here is I think Graham was a great find obviously, but as we're seeing with him in SEA...the OFC makes a big difference.

Jackson...imo he got a raw deal in OAK, but he was too new in the position to survive his actions...comparing him to Payton though is imo unfair to Jackson.

The other point on Payton being expensive is I think he has 2 more yrs on his deal and NO is going to want compensation for him (traditionally draft picks), but if all thing were equal in that department I think Payton wold be the #1 choice for pretty much every team wanting a new HC because he's got a ring...still pretty young guy too.

 

[alf8478]

Payton probably fits the MIA model because he's going to be expensive to get...at least a 2nd round pick, maybe a 1st + the contract....I don't see IND doing that.

Payton will want control and a QB, he wont go to Miami

 

[cincygrad]

Payton will want control and a QB, he wont go to Miami

Apparently he also requires prescription pills and a side piece.

 

[alf8478]

Apparently he also requires prescription pills and a side piece.

And lots of juicy fruit gum. Maybe Houston gives that out with the Gatorade.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I don't think Hue will set himself up for failure just to take another HC job. Jay Gruden is up a creek, don't leave until you can move into a situation where you can win or at least go some place where they will agree with your vision and have some patience.

 

[futballiscool]

I think Hue will get another shot. People tend to overrate his one year in Oakland after he had a team that started fast and fell apart toward the end. What he's doing with Dalton is impressive and given all the young qbs in the league, you'd figure someone would want to give him a shot. Jacksonville would be interesting if they decide to pull the plug on Bradley. Tennessee would also be a nice fit if they give up on Wisenhunt. Both of those places will probably look for a cheaper option and Hue would fit the bill.

Zampese would be the most likely internal candidate, but I'm not sure we'd go internal. Also worth noting that his wife is battling cancer which might prevent him from taking on a new position right now.

Jay Gruden might be available.....

What he did in Oakland was really impressive. 2010 was his first year as a playcaller and they were 6th in points scored with Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski at QB. He was promoted to head coach next year and went 8-8. Outside of those two seasons Oakland hasn't won more than 5 games in any season since 2002. He did that with really strange QB situations.

He's also helped out by the Rooney Rule. Even without it he'd be the biggest coordinator candidate. Now every team with a coaching vacancy will want to make him their first interview.

I haven't heard his name listed for this position yet but I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up connected to the USC job at some point. He's from LA and coached their during the late 90s. He'll probably want to stay in the NFL but some of the high profile college jobs offer NFL money and more power

 

[futballiscool]

Assuming Hue's gone after the year I think they have to promote from within the current coaching staff. Just for Dalton's sake and continuity

 

[kramer1]

Assuming Hue's gone after the year I think they have to promote from within the current coaching staff. Just for Dalton's sake and continuity

God help us