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LOL at 'key interception' for a team that won FOUR games. He also caught for almost 1,000 yards and 9 TDs, but congrats on finding a bad highlight of him.

Carson threw 20 picks in 2010 and 16 in only 9 games last year. How many of those were bc of the WR?

4 and 12 and we're sitting here talking shit about the best player on the team that year :burt:
 

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LOL at 'key interception' for a team that won FOUR games. He also caught for almost 1,000 yards and 9 TDs, but congrats on finding a bad highlight of him.

Carson threw 20 picks in 2010 and 16 in only 9 games last year. How many of those were bc of the WR?

4 and 12 and we're sitting here talking shit about the best player on the team that year :burt:

Only a moron would interpret one interception as being key to a whole season but that pick was key to that game as we lost it 23-17. And please trust that wasn't the only game where he pulled up on a pass that led to an interception. Just off the top of my head I can also think of the Cleveland and Tampa games that year where he did the same thing. And my original reply was in regards to your comment that he, "stayed quiet off the field." Which was proven to untrue regardless if you agreed with his comments or not.
 

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Only a moron would interpret one interception as being key to a whole season but that pick was key to that game as we lost it 23-17.

Yet you discount the fact that his stats were by far the best of anyone on our team that year. And again, we were 4-12. I would hardly call that 'key'

And my original reply was in regards to your comment that he, "stayed quiet off the field." Which was proven to untrue regardless if you agreed with his comments or not.

I just find it humerus that we're here busting a guys balls for calling out the fact that we have shitty coaches and ownership (which we do) yet still PRODUCING, when we had guys beating their girlfriends, punching car windows, beating up random dudes, etc. who were NOT producing.
 

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There's a reason he's no longer in the league. All 32 teams have received the memo.
 

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There's a reason he's no longer in the league. All 32 teams have received the memo.

Call me crazy, but I am guessing it had a lot more to do with his torn ACL that wasn't healed until almost the end of last season :der:
 

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TO has been a cancer his whole career. Stats don't mean everything. Was he the best WR on the team? Probably, but that's not saying much. I'm glad he's gone, and wish he was never here.
 

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Sometimes...addition by subtraction.

There's a reason he burned out his welcome with just about every team he ever played for in the NFL.
 

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TO has been a cancer his whole career. Stats don't mean everything. Was he the best WR on the team? Probably, but that's not saying much. I'm glad he's gone, and wish he was never here.

Sometimes...addition by subtraction.

There's a reason he burned out his welcome with just about every team he ever played for in the NFL.

Again I just find it interesting that with all the upstanding citizens that the Bengals have employed, there is so much hate for a guy who wasn't out getting DUI's, punching his girlfriend, dealing, or busting out car windows on the street, fighting randoms in a club...

and was putting up numbers
 

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TO has been a cancer his whole career. Stats don't mean everything. Was he the best WR on the team? Probably, but that's not saying much. I'm glad he's gone, and wish he was never here.

He wasnt a cancer in 2010. He was one of the most productive players and probably the best conditioned athlete on the team. That being said I didnt want him back. You gotta know when to quit while you're ahead with people like that. As far as 2010 goes though I'd say he was one of the few bright spots on the team and with the exception of short arming a couple passes I dont have an issue with anything he did on the field or said re: the Bengals off of it. Actually, his comments at the time were pretty refreshing and totally accurate/deserved.
 

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great video, rainman....I remember it well
 

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Again I just find it interesting that with all the upstanding citizens that the Bengals have employed, there is so much hate for a guy who wasn't out getting DUI's, punching his girlfriend, dealing, or busting out car windows on the street, fighting randoms in a club...

and was putting up numbers

It really isn't interesting at all since nobody had even mentioned his off the field antics until YOU brought it up. We all "hate" him due to his ON FIELD antics.

But go ahead and try to continue painting the picture how you'd like to see it.

Btw, your posts are starting to sound eerily similar to one "boomer_palmer" from the ESPN boards. Just sayin'.
 

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He had decent numbers..so what. Since Chad was MIA, he was bound to get some catches. He dropped a ton and gave up on any that might have led to a hit. If he had put some effort in, he would have had 1200 yards and 10 TDs.
 

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Btw, your posts are starting to sound eerily similar to one "boomer_palmer" from the ESPN boards. Just sayin'.

what posts are you referring to? I never visited bengals espn boards fyi.
 

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He had decent numbers..so what. Since Chad was MIA, he was bound to get some catches. He dropped a ton and gave up on any that might have led to a hit. If he had put some effort in, he would have had 1200 yards and 10 TDs.

I remember the first game against Cleveland. They were sending a hard double at Chad leaving TO one-on-one the entire game. I believe TO had some 200 yards that game. TO didn't do anything by himself. Those 2 guys worked well off of each other.

Overall, TO was the better "player" that season as he could get open more easily than Chad, but I would argue they were pretty much the same "receiver" given all the drops and alligator-arm passes.

Some more quick flashbacks: That shootout against Atlanta. We were toe and toe with them. Down 7 points after Pacman took one back to house earlier, TO drops a wide open pass with a clear lane into the endzone to tie the game. Against Miami, he alligator-armed the late 4th quarter pass at around the 15 yard line down 6 points that led to an interception. Similar situation in Tampa Bay. Against Pittsburgh he tripped on his own feet coming out of his break on a long pass down midfield leading to an interception by Polamalu which led to his reinjuring of his shoulder at the endzone. We actually still won that game though. I'm sure there were more that I just can't think of right now.

As for the comment about his ACL. Not a single team showed up to his public tryout, let alone gave him a private one to see what he had left. They didn't care about his ACL, they only cared about the name. Lastly, let's not forget we signed him a week into training camp. Had we not signed him, his career may have been over then.
 
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Yes, yes, and yes. Stats just don't show a full picture. It gives no context. His drops, and some at crucial times, and his propensity to just give up on routes made him as much of a cancer as ever, just maybe not as overt one.
 

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Some people will hate on TO from no other reason than the name. Don't even waste your time on them. He could have caught every ball thrown his way but one for 1500 yards and 20 TDs and people here woulda been bitching about that 1 drop.
 

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Did you watch the Draft or read anything related to it? Im guessing you were not pleased because they didnt use Mel Kiper's big board???

lol....just seems like there's nothing but bad news about the Bengals is all.And yes i watched "some" of the draft but i didn't sit in front of the tv all day and watch it.:becky:
 

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When people say something along the lines of "TO had 1000 yds, he must have been a good player" just realize you're buying into the whole gimmick..

that why these diva players are obsessed with their stats. it gives them praise when they win and absolves them from blame when they lose

and I don't care if it was genetic hybrid of Jay Cutler and Brett Favre throwing the pass... there's no reason for a WR to ever stop on a route, particularly with the game on the line.. TO did that a bunch of times that seaspm

if it happens on a well run, well coached team the player's cut that Monday... those weren't alligator arms.. it was completely quitting on a route.. never saw it to the extent of TO that season

now TO deserves props as a 1st ballot HOFer, but the player we had in 09 was sitting at home until training camp for a reason
 
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