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Ben Simmons formally demands trade

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Geez.....he wants to be what Modell was to Cleveland (as far as never coming back)?
As a Philly fan, I’m gonna flex on this. I love that collectively we have that power. From the time he passed up that dunk he’s done everything wrong and now the man punks out because of Philly.
 

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I don’t want to make Boston better. Neither should the Sixers. I don’t think Williams fits. Sixers need guard help on top of Smart. They have their version of Smart in Danny Green.

Smart is much more of a ball handler and playmaker

He’s more like what maxey could be in 5 years
 

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I have no doubt the tanking kept him off the court more than it would have if we needed him to win games.

and, sure, for the right team agree he could play 25-30 minutes.
We know one of those teams wasn’t the US Olympic team that was starved for big man depth. And he couldn’t play alongside a team with a big talent disparity. I also know that he has little use on the Sixers. I know you noted “some teams” in your post. But the conversation is about the Sixers so it’s a non-starter.
 

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Love would be a very good fit on the 76ers.

He ain't playing 82 games or 30mpg but he can still 60 games and 20-25mpg. Like somebody else said, he can play some backup C and PF while giving you an outside shooter (something Simmons isn't) and may 20-23mpg. You don't need a starter back at guard because you have some nice young players who need the PT.

Plus, you'll get 2-3 draft picks and most likely another AND younger player in the deal to sweeten it.
Embiid Drummond Harris Niang…Sixers are all set at 4 and 5. Love doesn’t warrant taking away minutes from those guys.
 

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We know one of those teams wasn’t the US Olympic team that was starved for big man depth. And he couldn’t play alongside a team with a big talent disparity. I also know that he has little use on the Sixers. I know you noted “some teams” in your post. But the conversation is about the Sixers so it’s a non-starter.
And I note you said "He’s a 15 minute a game guy now at $30 million"
 

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It's still a possibility and have a feeling both LA teams will be vying for his services.

Cavs better hurry then. The Lakers just worked out James Ennis and are considering signing him as the 14th pick. Of course, they sign 15....soooo maybe?
 

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Smart is much more of a ball handler and playmaker

He’s more like what maxey could be in 5 years
Agree on Smart as the better ball handler. I’m referring to his defense, snarl and experience when I do a DG comparison. You cite Maxey that’s why I don’t know that the Smart has as much Sixers value. This is the opportunity for Maxey to play 30 a night at the 1. I love Smart but it’s not enough back because Williams doesn’t fit either. I would love though to be a fly on the wall if Ben Simmons walks into that locker room after Brown and Tatum have been seen tooling on him for his shooting.
 

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And I note you said "He’s a 15 minute a game guy now at $30 million"
Of course I did. I was assessing the role he would play on the Sixers. He would take the minutes that Niang would get backing up Tobias Harris. Harris should have been an All Star last season. Broke ass Kevin Love isn’t taking minutes away from that guy. Harris played about 40 a night last year too. So I was actually being generous when I said Love would be a 15 minute a game guy with the Sixers. It’s likely about 7-8.
 

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Of course I did. I was assessing the role he would play on the Sixers. He would take the minutes that Niang would get backing up Tobias Harris. Harris should have been an All Star last season. Broke ass Kevin Love isn’t taking minutes away from that guy. Harris played about 40 a night last year too. So I was actually being generous when I said Love would be a 15 minute a game guy with the Sixers. It’s likely about 7-8.
nice try.
 

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The Sixers need to work out a trade sooner than later.....they don't want to go into the season with this drama hanging over the team's heads.
The drama won’t report to camp. They can easily block that out when he isn’t around every day. Dude burnt his bridge in refusing to have those guys get on the plane and come see him.
 

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The drama won’t report to camp. They can easily block that out when he isn’t around every day. Dude burnt his bridge in refusing to have those guys get on the plane and come see him.
They will get annoyed talking about it every day but agree not as big a deal when Simmons wont be there.
 

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Smart is much more of a ball handler and playmaker

He’s more like what maxey could be in 5 years

Totally different players. Maxey is a way better offensive player than Smart but will probably never be as good on defense
 

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Yeah, it's funny. Folks act like the can't play anymore.

He only played in 25 games last year because the Cavs were tanking....but in those games, he played 25 minutes per game, shot 36.5% from 3 and 7.4 rebounds per game. The season before...he played in 56 games, averaged 32 minutes per game, shot 37.5% from 3 and 9.8 rebounds per game.

His defense is obviously a negative, but his offense and rebounding have value. A good coach can figure out ways to hide him some on defense so it doesn't get too bad with him

Shit, I was hoping and praying that Cavs would just buy him out because I wanted the Lakers to sign him.
He fits great on the Lakers. I hear talk of Brow playing the 5 and LeBron the 4. He has no utility on the Sixers.
 

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You made a general comment saying Love can no longer play more than 15 minutes for his $30 mil.

No he didn’t.

It was very clear given the context that he was talking about Love’s potential role in Philly.
 

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