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Aubrey Huff retires

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Crazy pumped the day he became a Tiger. The excitement quickly faded. Had a nice career. Tampa should bring him in for a day and parade him around, he deserves it. No less than second best position player in that franchises short history.
 

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Crazy pumped the day he became a Tiger. The excitement quickly faded. Had a nice career. Tampa should bring him in for a day and parade him around, he deserves it. No less than second best position player in that franchises short history.

Agreed. But I don't know about him being the 2nd best. Longoria's easily the best position player they've ever had, and then you have Crawford and Zobrist. Pena had some nice years with the Rays.
 
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I wasn't thinking about Crawford. Does he have higher numbers than Huff at anything other than sb's? Pena got his career going down there after scuffling thru for awhile.(he got married today, I believe). Had some BIGTIME power numbers for awhile. But sub200 BAs are something Ill hold against a guy.
 

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I wasn't thinking about Crawford. Does he have higher numbers than Huff at anything other than sb's? Pena got his career going down there after scuffling thru for awhile.(he got married today, I believe). Had some BIGTIME power numbers for awhile. But sub200 BAs are something Ill hold against a guy.


Their stats in Tampa:

Crawford: .296/.337/.444, 107 OPS+, 409 SB (caught 90 times) in 5395 PA
Huff: .264/.346/.431, 116 OPS+, 20 SB (caught 15 times) in 3322 PA

I'd put Crawford ahead of him because of playing time and defense.

Pena struggled to hit for average, but he drew enough walks and hit enough home runs to make up for it. The low BA was a lot more of a problem when it was around .200 and he stopped hitting moonshots. Even with a .230 BA with the Rays, he still managed a .360 OBP. He also slugged .483. Pena wasn't a bad defensive 1B either.
 

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I always thought Pena was a helluva first baseman tbh. Maybe not as much now, but in his you get days. But Id take Huff. Versatile. Could hit for average and had power. But after looking at those numbers you're right, Crawford wins out. (He was off an running a lot more than I remembered)If I could Id edit my initial post to "no lower than fourth, but prolly third".... I would.
 
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Their stats in Tampa:

Crawford: .296/.337/.444, 107 OPS+, 409 SB (caught 90 times) in 5395 PA
Huff: .264/.346/.431, 116 OPS+, 20 SB (caught 15 times) in 3322 PA

I'd put Crawford ahead of him because of playing time and defense.

Pena struggled to hit for average, but he drew enough walks and hit enough home runs to make up for it. The low BA was a lot more of a problem when it was around .200 and he stopped hitting moonshots. Even with a .230 BA with the Rays, he still managed a .360 OBP. He also slugged .483. Pena wasn't a bad defensive 1B either.

Huff is actually only 7th all-time in Tampa Bay position player WAR at 11.6. Including pitchers he'd be 10th.
 

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I wasn't thinking about Crawford. Does he have higher numbers than Huff at anything other than sb's? Pena got his career going down there after scuffling thru for awhile.(he got married today, I believe). Had some BIGTIME power numbers for awhile. But sub200 BAs are something Ill hold against a guy.

So the fact that Crawford was incomparably better at all facets of baseball except hitting for power doesn't mean anything to you?
 

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I remember when he hit the major leagues, there was so much hype and promise, but unfortunately it never panned out for him.
 

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I always thought Pena was a helluva first baseman tbh. Maybe not as much now, but in his you get days. But Id take Huff. Versatile. Could hit for average and had power. But after looking at those numbers you're right, Crawford wins out. (He was off an running a lot more than I remembered)If I could Id edit my initial post to "no lower than fourth, but prolly third".... I would.

Carlos Pena was a helluva first baseman for approximately 2 years. Otherwise, he had about 3 other years where he was passable. Beyond that, he's garbage.
 

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Aubrey who? Not sure why we're even talking about this guy...
 

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My 4 year old puggle is named after Aubrey Huff when he was a Tiger.
 

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yea. tigers had him 1 year. he batted some thing like .076.
we missed out by 1 game. he stunk up the joint in Detroit.
 
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