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An absolute must listen Cooley/Kevin Draft breakdown.

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  1. kbso83432

    kbso83432 Well-Known Member

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    Cooley quick overview after watching most of their games and studying the tape.

    1. Haskins...doesn't slide his feet in the pocket, takes his eyes off the receivers and runs to an open area and then looks to throw. When he looks up after finding space to throw, might be in trouble if no one is open. If he takes a bunch of sacks this year, might not be on the offensive line. Doesn't hate Haskins, just hated it at 15. Had a 2nd round grade on him.

    2. Sweat...Awesome and doesn't have pro bowl potential, has all-pro potential. Should play on all three downs from day 1.

    3. Mclaurin...body catcher at times, doesn't get out of his breaks real well, but Cooley likes him.

    4. Love...If healthy would have been the top back taken. When healthy, better than Guice. Doesn't think he plays this year, maybe week 10. Thinks its Guice and Love in 20. Could be what Kamara is for New Orleans. If he gets loose, he's gone. Says he is not just a 3rd down back. He's 200 plus and could be an every down back.

    4. Martin is your starting LG..period. Strong, but not good in open space.

    5. Pierschbacher....a back up. Wont make many mistakes, but said he was a 5th or 6th round guy that can fill in a G or C.

    5. Holcomb...Doesnt play as fast as his 40 time and will be a special teamer.

    6. Harmon.....best blocking WR in the draft. Should be able to help on 3rd down.

    7. Moreland... will make the team and is a "MFer." Loved his attitude and knew a guy that was able to get tape on him so he could study him.

    7. Brailford....said he may struggle to make the team.

    Might want to skip the first 10 minutes or so(NBA talk) They really go in detail on each pick.
     



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    Forward to about the 16min mark.
     
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    2nd round grade on Haskins is delusional. Yes he is raw but has all the tools you need to be a franchise QB. I haven't listen to the pod cast yet.
     
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    2nd round grade doesnt bother me at all . we know he will take time
     
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    Props to you on Martin. I think it was you who said he's the guy when I was on Pierchbacher.
     
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    I'm not listen to that junk
     
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    You know that Cooley is pretty tight with Dan.
     
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    I like Cooley however, you lost me at 2nd round grade on Haskins. Shut the front door Cooley. Haskins was among many the talk of best or runner-up QB to be taken this year albeit, a weak QB class. Value where he was taken was great and having Keenum here is also a win for WASH. They could go either way this year with Haskins and quite frankly, "if" he wins the QB competition, play him. If not, sit him and let him learn by filling out the clip board every week. Not a big deal.
     
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    To be fair to Haskins, he said the only QB in this draft that he gave a 1st round grade to was Murray.
     
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    is a tool for the The draft worked out perfectly in term of my evaluation of the two top QB prospects. I had Murray ahead of Haskins and Haskins as a middle to late first round pick. Every other QB in this draft just didn't merit anything above the fourth round from my perspective. I believe that is why NYG fans reacted as they did with the selection of D. Jones.

    Where Cooley and I part beyond the first round grade has a lot to do with how we evaluate movement and vision. While he focused on sliding which is sometimes important fundamentally, moving for purpose seemed more important to me. In that respect, I like that he (Haskins) doesn't waste movement or unnecessarily "slides" and have to reestablish his rather wide base. Efficiency being the key here Cooley talks about well established norms in referencing "sliding" while I focused on what this player has become comfortable and most successful doing.

    Where vision is concerned, I have yet to read/hear one analyst complain about his actual vision and how well he sees the field. To me Haskins is sort of a visual savant in that he knows where everyone is at all times. Again, it's a matter of well established norms versus what works for this player. Taking your eyes off of your receivers isn't a closed eye event either, peripheral vision accounts for being aware of where pressure is coming from, and a necessary tool of the improvisational type, like Haskins, albeit in his limited spaces to successfully operate. (he's no runner) One more word or two about losing vision of the field and that is he rarely takes a second scan of the field after diverting his vision. This means one of two things, the first is that he's singularly focused on one target and there's no evidence of that, or that his visual field is extremely wide. Looking at his films, it's clear that this young player doesn't have tunnel vision, even when there's great pressure.
     
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    take a look at the haskins , yes or no thread . i posted some good stuff on haskins . the first one is enlightening , the 2nd one gives good plusses and minusses
     
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    Yeah dad, I just watched the interview with Nardo. You have to be impressed with his understanding of and ability to read defenses. Everything starts with protection. The story of him talking to Day while in HS and not having any understanding of setting protections to the point he understood them in his one year of playing college ball is outstanding. He also explained reading coverages which were his tell or what he thought his tell was and where he should go. Based on these factors he had a clear cut idea who his 1st read was and so on. This is the part of his game that folks are so excited about.

    One thing I noticed while watching the video was Haskins talking about making eye contact with his receivers before throwing. That is college shit. In the pros he will have to get used to throwing where a receiver is supposed to be and not waiting to see him. These are adjustments that must be made by all college QBs when they get in the NFL.

    Say it again, there are lots of things to like and a few things that need to improve. If he can improve those things he will be a successful NFL QB.
     
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    To you sir:suds:
     
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    Backatcha :suds: