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Giannis changes things.

But they are not the "most attractive market in the league"

Like Bucky claims.

Not even close.
I'd say they are at least top 10.
 

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I'd say they are at least top 10.

Yeah, maybe.

But top 10 still isn't getting that "elite FA"

They might get the vet on a team friendly deal, but they aren't likely to get the guy everybody else wants too.
 

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Totally agree.

And as a restricted FA, they can keep him as long as they don't do anything stupid.

They will have to pay him a good bit though.

That's why it doesn't make any sense to sign him right away. His cap hold is only $3M.
 

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Yeah, maybe.

But top 10 still isn't getting that "elite FA"

They might get the vet on a team friendly deal, but they aren't likely to get the guy everybody else wants too.
Their best bet is in the draft but they are only drafting #30 this year.
 

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Projection or prediction? What is your preference?

My prediction is that Brogdon will be the first contract out of all potential FAs the Bucks have this season that will be resigned, it will happen before this month is over and his new salary for next season will be some 12M or similar...
Credit for specifics.and not backing down. Good luck on getting your first one right.
 

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If he signs first, the Bucks cap space is gone unless they cut lose Mirotic. I would guess $15M+.
Actually it's exactly the opposite... Brogdon signs first, because he has the smallest cap hold out of all... Mirotic signs last since his cap hold is 18.5M and his (new) salary is expected to be much less than the value and surely all of it (whatever it is) an exception from lux tax...
 

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Actually it's exactly the opposite... Brogdon signs first, because he has the smallest cap hold out if all... Mirotic signs last since his cap hold is 18.5M and his (new) salary is expected to be much less than the value and surely all of it (whatever it is) an exception from lux tax...

Sorry, you've got it backwards. Right now, Brodgon only counts his cap hold of $3M+ against the cap. If you sign him to $12M, you just lost $9M in space to work with. If he's a sure thing, he needs to be signed last.

Mirotic's cap hold is 18.5M and will hold up any other signings. If you sign him to considerably less, you can open up more cap space to work with.
 

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Actually it's exactly the opposite... Brogdon signs first, because he has the smallest cap hold out of all... Mirotic signs last since his cap hold is 18.5M and his (new) salary is expected to be much less than the value and surely all of it (whatever it is) an exception from lux tax...

Wrong yet again.

Once he signs, his cap hold goes away and it becomes actual salary in the amount they pay him.

If the Bucks need space, they can getnit by renouncing Mirotic. Which they might have to do.
 

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Wrong yet again.

Once he signs, his cap hold goes away and it becomes actual salary in the amount they pay him.

If the Bucks need space, they can getnit by renouncing Mirotic. Which they might have to do.
LOL... With guaranteed salaries for next season starting at... 70M?

You simply don't realize the superb work that Horst did this season... The Bucks will SIGN THEM ALL and never pay a penny in lux tax... It may take moving Snell and Ilyasova for bettering the starting roster, but it won't be more than 5M needed out of their salaries to be saved fot the Bucks to never pay pay the lux tax... Bucks are in superb financial situation...
 

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LOL... With guaranteed salaries for next season starting at... 70M?

You simply don't realize the superb work that Horst did this season... The Bucks will SIGN THEM ALL and never pay a penny in lux tax... It may take moving Snell and Ilyasova for bettering the starting roster, but it won't be more than 5M needed out of their salaries to be saved fot the Bucks to never pay pay the lux tax... Bucks are in superb financial situation...

Keeping Brogdon and Middleton will cost at least 40 million a year and it might be 50.
 

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LOL... With guaranteed salaries for next season starting at... 70M?

You simply don't realize the superb work that Horst did this season... The Bucks will SIGN THEM ALL and never pay a penny in lux tax... It may take moving Snell and Ilyasova for bettering the starting roster, but it won't be more than 5M needed out of their salaries to be saved fot the Bucks to never pay pay the lux tax... Bucks are in superb financial situation...

They very well be under that luxury tax for NOW..

Middleton $35/year
Brogdon $16/year
Mirotic $12-14/year?

Luxury is at $132M

But with those 3 right there they are right at $132. That is without Lopez or to fill out the roster. They need to make some moves, it is going to be tough to get under that luxury tax actually unless they can find suitors for that terrible Snell contract and/or Iyasova. You will have to attach draft picks especially to that Snell contract.

Then once they have to sign Giannis to the supermax they will be living in luxury...most likely.
 

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Agreed.

Bucky thinks it will be like 30.

Realistically 45-50 with 40 as the bare minimum.

Could be more than 50 too.

It's over 30 alone for Middleton
 

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I'm thinking:

Brogdon - 4 years 64M

Middleton - 4 years $149M

Yeah... but that's you "thinking" which violates thinking rules... All Bucks players are signing in team friendly... Lopez will be at 9M (his MLE) and Hill below 4M for next season... No way Middleton gets near 30... it will be under 25...
 

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Yeah... but that's you "thinking" which violates thinking rules... All Bucks players are signing in team friendly... Lopez will be at 9M (his MLE) and Hill below 4M for next season...

Please post all your Buck signing predictions so we can have a good laugh in a couple weeks.

Feel free to include your Paul George trade ideas too.
 

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Yeah... but that's you "thinking" which violates thinking rules... All Bucks players are signing in team friendly... Lopez will be at 9M (his MLE) and Hill below 4M for next season... No way Middleton gets near 30... it will be under 25...

Lopez and Hill, sure they could. Brogdon and Middleton. No.
 

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Wrong yet again.

Once he signs, his cap hold goes away and it becomes actual salary in the amount they pay him.

If the Bucks need space, they can getnit by renouncing Mirotic. Which they might have to do.

Math is hard, logic is IMPOSSIBLE.
 
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