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Breakout potential: Can Spencer Long keep his starting job?

he had 13 starts missed one snap , didnt allow a sack , didnt get flagged for a penalty , and was ranked by PFF as the 28th overall OG out of 82 all in his first season as starter

exactly what more did we want out of him again ? that type of season doesnt bode well for the future either at OG or center ? perhaps we should re examine that pick and give it more credit eh dean ?

those are better numbers then moses
 

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Never got the Long hate myself. :noidea: He had a decent year and hopefully will continue to develop.
 

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The only way he starts this year is if he moves to center.
 

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The only way he starts this year is if he moves to center.

A suggestion Dean

You'd have so much more credibility with your opinions if you didn't post in certainties so much. There is always more than one outcome to any given situation, tho you rarely seem to think so. Week to week league en sech.
 

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Of course anything can happen. that is just my opinion.
 

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cali at least I give my onpinions unlike the dan diedorfs of this board who state the obvious. Or the guys who just agree whatever SM does.
 

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cali at least I give my onpinions unlike the dan diedorfs of this board who state the obvious. Or the guys who just agree whatever SM does.

Hey, opinions drive a message board and we all have them. I was more coming from a place of wondering why you always seem so absolute with your opinions then anything else.
 

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If Long starts at Center, who starts at LG? I am assuming we release Lauvao???
 

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If Long starts at Center, who starts at LG? I am assuming we release Lauvao???
They'd probably have Lavaou and Ari (plus someone) competing.
 

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how does saying that long had a much better season then you give him credit for somehow doesnt fall into "my opinion " category ?

and why does your opinion seem to trump anyone elses ?

hell these are my opinions backed up by facts not blind SM love
 

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I didn't say my opinion was fact. I just made a predication for this year. What facts skindsdad? The only reason why LOng played is b/c of injury.
 

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I didn't say my opinion was fact. I just made a predication for this year. What facts skindsdad? The only reason why LOng played is b/c of injury.

oh i dont know dean , how about we start with his listed production ? and lou gerhrig started out because of an injury to wally pipp as have numerous other athletes but what that as to do with the price of rice in china is beyond me

his actual listed production , quantifiable are facts . " i think he sucks " is an opinion
 

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I never said he sucked. If we draft a center or pickup on in FA I think he would have a hard time starting for us. I think he is just a backup.
 

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I never said he sucked. If we draft a center or pickup on in FA I think he would have a hard time starting for us. I think he is just a backup.

his play says he is a starter 28th out of 82 of all guards rated . looks like a starter to me
 

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So you believe Kujo can do better than zero sacks and miss only a snap?

Or do you believe Long was just lucky?

Seriously...why do you hate on Long so much when he was ranked 28 at the position in the entire league out of all guards? He was a second year player who did well in spite of your opinion.
 

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we will see in training camp what happens. Don't hate Long just don't think he is a starter. There are a lot of rumors that he has to play center to keep a starting job. Of course I could be wrong, but we will see. gk, there was a reason why Kojo was taken with a high 4th round pick.
 

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Who cares what he position he plays if he plays well. Russ Grimm played almost every position on the line at one time. Jacoby went from LT to RT later in his career. May played guard and tackle. The idea is to get 5 good guys and who cares where they play as long as they play well.
 

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we will see in training camp what happens. Don't hate Long just don't think he is a starter. There are a lot of rumors that he has to play center to keep a starting job. Of course I could be wrong, but we will see. gk, there was a reason why Kojo was taken with a high 4th round pick.

You just don't get it and never will. Taking Kojo has nothing to do with Long. You just hope a fourth rounder makes the team.
 

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lol. I disagree. I cant wait to prove you wrong this summer about Long. Of course 4th round picks make teams. Especially high ones.
 

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Of course anything can happen. that is just my opinion.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but what facts do you go to to formulate this opinion? You tend to make proclamations about players very early on and resist any re-evaluation as facts start to emerge. I had no idea Long played that well in his first year. This certainly changes my thoughts about him.
 
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