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A.L. Central Smack 2015

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The Tigers are close to implosion. True, they could still win the AL Central. They could get a wild-card. But their staff has more question marks than the Royals in my opinion. After Price, Sanchez and Verlander are not nearly as dependable. After that it is dismal. There is little to no pen. No one to trust at the end of a game. And one of the elite hitters of all-time is sidelined for weeks. Avila has not hit well for some time. Castellanos has been disappointing.

Yes, both KC and Minnesota have rotations that are somewhat questionable. Minnesota has a pen issue too. The Royals bats throughout the lineup are superior to the Twins. Both teams play good defense and have good chemistry.

But in Minny and KC there is a positive vibe. There is growing youth. There is abundance of options. KC is primed to run away with the division. Minnesota is playing like the days when they won with hard work. Somehow the rotation that the Twins put on the field is doing the job.

In Detroit, there is grumbling, and the market. DD has brought success by finding trades and free agents to go with a few homegrown products. But he has mortgaged the farm. It is time to pay the piper.

The Tigers could roar back. But it is more likely that we are seeing the fall of the house of Detroit.
. Selling is the only thing that makes sense at this point.

DD might as well go that route in his final season, give it a try before he moves on.
 

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Selling is the only thing that makes sense at this point.
DD might as well go that route in his final season, give it a try before he moves on.

Given that DD hasn't been able to sign Price or Cespedes long-term during the season, it pains me to agree that we might have to be sellers. Lotta money still tied up in a few aging players (Verlander, Cabrera, Vmart). Gotta get younger and rebuild the farm. Cespedes and especially Price should bring in high-level prospects from a contending team.
 

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DDDDDOZIER with the HR, lol

3 hits from the Royals so far.
 

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I was thinking Detroit could acquire Cueto and Chapman and be the team to beat.

Brian Dozier 1-1 with HR in game.

Perkins closes second year in a row.

Trout's HR off a guy who has not surrendered a run in 5 starts (Grienke) makes him MVP.

Could have been Fielder or even Cain.

deGrom was the nastiest, followed by Chapman.
 

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The Tigers went from 5th in team ERA about a month ago to 13th in the AL now. That speaks more to the crap Dombrowski has saddled the team with that to anything Ausmus has done.

Det hasn't seen 5th all season, 8th, 7th and 14th...apr, may, june. The team really hasn't been good outside of the 1st 13 games of the season.
 

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I was thinking Detroit could acquire Cueto and Chapman and be the team to beat.
Why not?

Bernie Ilitch is gonna croak soon, he can't take it with him. They're only 2 back (loss column) in the Wild Card--so why not?
 

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Why not?

Bernie Ilitch is gonna croak soon, he can't take it with him. They're only 2 back (loss column) in the Wild Card--so why not?

You trade off what you have that can bring anything and build a team that has a shot instead of trying to polish a turd.
 

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Ilitch may "croak" but his son has been running his company since 1999... Mike Ilitch could die tomorrow and nothing would change. Only someone that has no idea what they are talking about would imply the Tiger's will be effected by his death. Mike Ilitch is nothing more than a guy that sits in a chair and waves at people... His kid is the decision maker... and he is in his 40's...

You really think a 85 year old man has been running a multi billion dollar enterprise? Jesus what an idiot.

Facts... they are fun.
Christopher Ilitch - President & CEO - Ilitch Holdings, Inc.
 

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26 HR now for JD Martinez... on pace for 47... it was a joke when i said he could hit 50... haahahahah big joke huh.
 

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26 HR now for JD Martinez... on pace for 47... it was a joke when i said he could hit 50... haahahahah big joke huh.

lol, nice individual goal if he makes it..

You also said....

Simon would dominate for the Tigers-no
Greene would be one of the best pitchers in the AL-no
Kyle Ryan would help the Tigers and be good-no
Jeff Ferrell would help the bullpen-no
Drew Verhagen would be major help-no
Herman Perez would be a solid-no
Nick C would hit better than Moustakas-no
Hardy would be a good rp-yes

Like Doug, guess you get to have a couple come true
 

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lol, nice individual goal if he makes it..

You also said....

Simon would dominate for the Tigers-no
Greene would be one of the best pitchers in the AL-no
Kyle Ryan would help the Tigers and be good-no
Jeff Ferrell would help the bullpen-no
Drew Verhagen would be major help-no
Herman Perez would be a solid-no
Nick C would hit better than Moustakas-no
Hardy would be a good rp-yes

Like Doug, guess you get to have a couple come true


  • I never said Simon would dominate.. thats a total lie
  • I never said Greene would be one of the best pitchers in the AL another lie
  • I said Kyle Ryan would help the tigers out of the pen... which he did.. he isn't a MLB starter
  • I never said Ferrell would help the bullpen this year... another lie... I spoke of him and Verhagen in a future perspective.. as both are still very young.... you are taking casual conversation about a couple of early 20's pitchers as if I said they were going to be major players this year.. sad bums.. even for you.
  • Hernan Perez has hit .338 for the Brewers in 33 games.. he is solid...
  • Moustakas has batted .143 in july and is down to .297 BA... with just 32 RBI
  • Castellanos has batted .304 in july and has 38 RBi... hmmmm... lets just see where these stats end up shall we?
  • Hardy is good... why you would even put that in your list of lies is kind of funny...

Say what you want bums... but you can not say I don't know baseball... I can provide facts to my arguments... You rarely can. I make predictions.. yes... and many come true... some don't... funny that you have to take things I say out of context or just plain ol make it up to try to make yourself look smart...

To bad you come off looking like the clown you are.
 

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Dozier is a god

That's a fact
 

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Its funny.. all the stuff Bums quotes me as saying was in conversations with other tigers fans... the guy just must have lurked watching my posts... he was not apart of any of those conversations... and the ones that were real statements were over weeks of live game chats.. he literally would have had to been lurking watching the chats I had with others for 10+ weeks to have seen all those statements... again.. he was not involved in any of the actual discussions... just must have been lurking and watching.
 

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Hernan Perez > Omar Infante BA

Month of July Hernan Perez .297 1 hr 4 rbi
Month of July Omar Infante .240 1 hr 2 rbi ... huh.. who would you rather have starting for you?
 

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I never said Simon would dominate.. thats a total lie
I never said Greene would be one of the best pitchers in the AL another lie
I said Kyle Ryan would help the tigers out of the pen... which he did.. he isn't a MLB starter
I never said Ferrell would help the bullpen... another lie... I spoke of him and Verhagen in a future perspective.. as both are still very young.... you are taking casual conversation about a couple of early 20's pitchers as if I said they were going to be major players this year.. sad bums.. even for you.
Hernan Perez has hit .338 for the Brewers in 33 games.. he is solid...
Moustakas has batted .143 in july and is down to .297 BA... with just 32 RBI
Castellanos has batted .304 in july and has 38 RBi... hmmmm... lets just see where these stats end up shall we?
Hardy is good... why you would even put that in your list of lies is kind of funny...

Say what you want bums... but you can not say I don't know baseball... I can provide facts to my arguments... You rarely can. I make predictions.. yes... and many come true.. funny that you have to take things I say out of context or just plain ol make it up to try to make yourself look smart...

To bad you come off looking like the clown you are.

lol

yes, your an honest man Vice, I am very aware of it.

Not just you jumped right on the Greene and Simon bandwagons, many part time fans for the club thought they would be great too. You were talking non stop about them, and were completely wrong. You weren't the only one.

I put Hardy on there, actually giving you credit, he has been good, you got that one right. I put a yes next to him. Look at it again, mr facts.

You spouted that Ryan, Ferrell and VerHagen all were going to be good for Det, this year, at least MiamiVice82 did on CBS, but then again your so honest you have so many different IDs to prove that.

If Castellanos catches Moustakas, I will give you credit...If JD hits 50, I will give you credit there as well completely.

Point being, you keep throwing around predictions like Dougy, you are bound to get a few right. Good Job
 

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Its funny.. all the stuff Bums quotes me as saying was in conversations with other tigers fans... the guy just must have lurked watching my posts... he was not apart of any of those conversations... and the ones that were real statements were over weeks of live game chats.. he literally would have had to been lurking watching the chats I had with others for 10+ weeks to have seen all those statements... again.. he was not involved in any of the actual discussions... just must have been lurking and watching.

I was talking in the same area you were. wtf? lol, we actually went back and forth on Simon/Greene a ton. I made fun of Collins, ryan, perez, and laughed at VerHagen.

Good luck, you and Doug discuss baseball, it will make sense for the both of you then.
 

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this sight is smart enough for an ignore button, later
 

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I know baseball bums.. you can lie all you want.. but in a actual conversation using facts... i am going to spin circles around you. I don't even have to try.

Post what ever nonsense you like here and tell people I say what ever you want... anyone that reads my posts can clearly see I know what I am talking about... and that you A) take what I say out of context B) exaggerate it C) Lie
 

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Dozier is a god

That's a fact

Telling ya, I am more concerned with the Twins than anyone else in the AL, if you can win with nothing add some pieces and they can definitely win with something.
 
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