Game Thread: 8/8 Giants vs. Cubs

[LHG]

No one takes his spot. Odd numbered year.

Same thing with Pagan. I just don't think they have a major urgency to win at all costs this year. So the vets get plenty of rope.

Not sure on that. The Giants have Lincecum and Hudson on the dl. I doubt both go to the bullpen when they get activated September 1st.

 

[LHG]

However, what are the odds that if Heston also continues to struggle that he goes to the bullpen before Cain?

 

[LHG]

Gee thanks Pagan. Nice production on the top of the lineup.

 

[Stokes1931]

1-4 hitters 0-for the game so far

 

[LHG]

Hendricks may go 8 innings at this rate.

 

[LHG]

1-4 hitters 0-for the game so far

At least Aoki walked once.

 

[msgkings322]

Not sure on that. The Giants have Lincecum and Hudson on the dl. I doubt both go to the bullpen when they get activated September 1st.

OK fair enough, Cain will get what, 4 more August starts? And probably suck, per available evidence. Then maybe they will say here Timmy, have a shot, and he will suck, per available evidence. Then the other Timmy, same thing. Odd numbered year still stands.

 

[Stokes1931]

However, what are the odds that if Heston also continues to struggle that he goes to the bullpen before Cain?

Heston has not been as dominant as earlier, perhaps he needs rest? (dog days and all that).

Still

Last 7 games: 3-1, 2.93 ERA

Last 15 games: 8-3, 3.77 ERA

Season: 11-6, 3.48 ERA

I'd say he's trending positively.

 

[LHG]

Odds of Cain making it through the 5th inning unscathed?

 

[msgkings322]

However, what are the odds that if Heston also continues to struggle that he goes to the bullpen before Cain?

Sigh, also possible. I came into this year without expecting much, but I can't decide if I'd have preferred to flat out suck, or this teasing almost there kinda of thing.

Still plenty of season left so who knows...but I've been conditioned to believe (by this team!) that pitching is everything, and this year they don't got it.

 

[LHG]

Heston has not been as dominant as earlier, perhaps he needs rest? (dog days and all that).

Still

Last 7 games: 3-1, 2.93 ERA

Last 15 games: 8-3, 3.77 ERA

Season: 11-6, 3.48 ERA

I'd say he's trending positively.

I'm not advocating it, just wonder how Bochy and Co would handle Heston vesus Cain, assuming both perform poorly in August.

 

[LHG]

Sigh, also possible. I came into this year without expecting much, but I can't decide if I'd have preferred to flat out suck, or this teasing almost there kinda of thing.

Still plenty of season left so who knows...but I've been conditioned to believe (by this team!) that pitching is everything, and this year they don't got it.

I'd prefer falling flat early on and no teasing. Playing three games out of first in August pulls me in and makes losses that much harder.

 

[LHG]

Jeez Cain, up 0-2 and you walk the guy?

 

[Stokes1931]

Stratton has pretty favorable comps to Heston at AAA, walks fewer, strikes out fewer.

2014 Heston in AAA

173 IP 152 H 65 ER 16 HR 51 BB 125 K .233 AVG 1.17 WHIP 3.38 ERA

2015 Stratton in AAA

71.2 IP 60 H 28 ER 4 HR 28 BB 49 K .228 AVG 1.23 WHIP 3.52 ERA

 

[Stokes1931]

Jeez Cain, up 0-2 and you walk the guy?

Cain's velocity is there, but he control is gone. Must be frustrating for him. Disappointing to us.

His WHIP on the day approaches 3.

Season WHIP now at 1.60

Greek needs to be nasty here.

 

[LHG]

Stratton has pretty favorable comps to Heston at AAA, walks fewer, strikes out fewer.

2014 Heston in AAA

173 IP 152 H 65 ER 16 HR 51 BB 125 K .233 AVG 1.17 WHIP 3.38 ERA

2015 Stratton in AAA

71.2 IP 60 H 28 ER 4 HR 28 BB 49 K .228 AVG 1.23 WHIP 3.52 ERA

Granted, this is a half season of triple AAA for Stratton versus two full seasons for Heston. I'm surprised Stratton has done as well as he has considering the numbers he posted in San Jose and Richmond the past couple of years.

 

[Stokes1931]

Greek IR magic over.

 

[LHG]

And Kontos continues his reversal of fortune with inherited runners. Wonderful.

 

[Stokes1931]

Granted, this is a half season of triple AAA for Stratton versus two full seasons for Heston. I'm surprised Stratton has done as well as he has considering the numbers he posted in San Jose and Richmond the past couple of years.

These are the 2014 numbers for Heston, but your point is that he was in AAA for two seasons is correct. Stratton needs some more seasoning. He began the season in AA Richmond, and did quite well. But the Coast league is a tougher place to pitch.

I think AA Eastern League is a place to show you can hit. AAA PCL is a place you can show you can pitch.

 

[calsnowskier]

Granted, this is a half season of triple AAA for Stratton versus two full seasons for Heston. I'm surprised Stratton has done as well as he has considering the numbers he posted in San Jose and Richmond the past couple of years.

Supposedly, the Giants restricted his arsenal in the lower innings so he could work on specific pitches. This year (again, supposedly) they took the training wheels off so he could learn how to use all his weapons.

How accurate is all this? I have no idea. I have seen/read it from multiple sources, though.