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We'll always have Cain's perfecto.

When Posey went down, 2011 was over. Now 2012 is. It was going to take all of what we had to make it work. Now only a true miracle gets us to the playoffs.

Sorry to keep Debbie Downering but for me it helps to just get all the obviously bad stuff out there. Can't Pollyanna very well.
 

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Posey walk or single and a Pence homer??? ;)
 

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We'll always have Cain's perfecto.

When Posey went down, 2011 was over. Now 2012 is. It was going to take all of what we had to make it work. Now only a true miracle gets us to the playoffs.

Sorry to keep Debbie Downering but for me it helps to just get all the obviously bad stuff out there. Can't Pollyanna very well.

I'm just impressed that you turned "Debbie Downer" into a verb. :heh:
 

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Yeah, thanks for stepping up and supporting your teammates.

Well, that's where I kind of differ from a lot of fans. It's not like Timmy is pitching bad today because he's not trying to step up. He's pitching bad because this year, at least, he is bad.

They are all out there trying as hard as they can. They don't try harder when a guy goes down injured or whatever.
 

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We'll always have Cain's perfecto.

When Posey went down, 2011 was over. Now 2012 is. It was going to take all of what we had to make it work. Now only a true miracle gets us to the playoffs.

Sorry to keep Debbie Downering but for me it helps to just get all the obviously bad stuff out there. Can't Pollyanna very well.

LOL. Geez, MSG. You are really good at Debbie Downering.
 

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Well, that's where I kind of differ from a lot of fans. It's not like Timmy is pitching bad today because he's not trying to step up. He's pitching bad because this year, at least, he is bad.

They are all out there trying as hard as they can. They don't try harder when a guy goes down injured or whatever.

Yeah, Timmy's been a mess all year. Having a teammate go down isn't gonna give him a boost, IMO. No reason to be more harsh on him than any other of his bad starts this year.
 

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Well, that's where I kind of differ from a lot of fans. It's not like Timmy is pitching bad today because he's not trying to step up. He's pitching bad because this year, at least, he is bad.

They are all out there trying as hard as they can. They don't try harder when a guy goes down injured or whatever.

If only results were a matter of effort
 

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LOL. Geez, MSG. You are really good at Debbie Downering.

Sorry, yeah I'm a natural sports pessimist. You kind of have to be. Winning the last game of the season is very rare.
 

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We'll always have Cain's perfecto.

When Posey went down, 2011 was over. Now 2012 is. It was going to take all of what we had to make it work. Now only a true miracle gets us to the playoffs.

Sorry to keep Debbie Downering but for me it helps to just get all the obviously bad stuff out there. Can't Pollyanna very well.

Gotta do what you gotta do, just not my style.

It does feels like 2011 Posey again but you were debbie downing long before today
 

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If only results were a matter of effort

In baseball results have a lot more to do with luck than most care to admit, indisputably in the playoffs.

When the best hitters make outs 65% of the time, it's pretty random when they will string together some to win a game. The difference between a squared up HR off a fastball and a popup or foul back is so small as to be almost randomly meaningless.

You gotta be a good team to make the playoffs. After that's it's almost literally random who wins.
 

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Gotta do what you gotta do, just not my style.

It does feels like 2011 Posey again but you were debbie downing long before today

Beg to differ, I was on board the Giants winning the division train. I just recognized our competition from LA earlier than most.
 

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Timmy at 74 pitches through 3

How the hell can Espinosa crank that one out to center, and the Giants can't hit the warning track? PED's? :eyebrows:

PED's and Timmy putting it on a tee for him.
 

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Beg to differ, I was on board the Giants winning the division train. I just recognized our competition from LA earlier than most.

Nah, its not about predictions. Its about attitude.

Pessimists may be right but its still not my cup o tea
 

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Well, that's where I kind of differ from a lot of fans. It's not like Timmy is pitching bad today because he's not trying to step up. He's pitching bad because this year, at least, he is bad.

They are all out there trying as hard as they can. They don't try harder when a guy goes down injured or whatever.

Yeah, Timmy's been a mess all year. Having a teammate go down isn't gonna give him a boost, IMO. No reason to be more harsh on him than any other of his bad starts this year.

I respectfully disagree gents. I never played sports at a professional level by any stretch of the imagination, but I played on some good club/traveling teams and high school ball. When somebody important went down, that game definitely had "more" meaning/importance to me (even if it was incrimental). I definitely felt the need to "step up". Now, sometimes that got me out of my game and then the results didn't back up what I was trying to do.....but that's neither here nor there. I don't question Timmy's "want" to step up, it's just a bummer that he didn't do it.
 

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Well, at least today shows that the Giants got lucky in 2 aspects. Not signing Melky to a big contract before this came out and not signing Timmy to a big contract this past offseason.
 

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Sorry, yeah I'm a natural sports pessimist. You kind of have to be. Winning the last game of the season is very rare.

You grew up a Whitesox fan, and in Chicago, right? It's only natural that you'd be a pessimist.
 
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