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Game Thread: 5/24 Puds @ SammyJam

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Kontos still looking wobbly. Don't trust him in close situations (so unlike last year). Amazing how quickly relievers can change in effective.

Give him some time to shake off the rust. If he is still shaky in a month, then back to 6th/7th inning relief he goes. Here's to hoping Romo gets well soon!
 

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Give him some time to shake off the rust. If he is still shaky in a month, then back to 6th/7th inning relief he goes. Here's to hoping Romo gets well soon!
Outside of Kontos, I'm feeling better about the bullpen than a couple of weeks ago (but that may be due to their lack of use recently). But yes, Kontos needs to shake the rust off. I'm not giving up on him yet, but I am a bit concerned.
 

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Didn't realize the team is now 10 games over .500! What a difference two weeks make.

Looks like we'll stay 4.5 on the Dodgers as they are beating up on the Reds.
 

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Didn't realize the team is now 10 games over .500! What a difference two weeks make.

Looks like we'll stay 4.5 on the Dodgers as they are beating up on the Reds.
Rox got another loss, though. So our magic # still drops by 2...
 

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I've never even thought of figuring out the magic number in May. Is the number you post every day the countdown to playoffs?
Divisional magic number.
 

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SP numbers, May 6-24

Avg IP: 7.1
Avg H: 5.5
Avg BB: 1.6
Avg K: 6.2
Avg HR: 0.3
Avg PQS: 4.3

Non PV numbers: 7.7, 5.6, 1.3, 6.7, 0.3, 4.6

Happy PV Day everybody.
 

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SP numbers, May 6-24

Avg IP: 7.1
Avg H: 5.5
Avg BB: 1.6
Avg K: 6.2
Avg HR: 0.3

Non PV numbers: 7.7, 5.6, 1.3, 6.7, 0.3

Happy PV Day everybody.
How horrible must he feel looking as bad as he does in the middle of this epic run?
 

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He is keeping the average hits down. Here's to hoping he gets on the bandwagon tomorrow.
Against the murdurers row that is the San Diego Padres?



Good luck.
 

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Jeez we are SD's daddy. They suck but man we just own them like a Schwinn.
 

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I can think of 15 million, sadly.
But the good news is that with PV, Oxy, and presumably Romo and Lopez rolling off, for 2017 we have at least $40 million of cap room, even with the scheduled raises due, and even assuming the cap isn't raised. That should net at least two or three quality players. Maybe an SP ($20mm - relatively top-shelf), a quality reliever ($8-$10MM), and a decent OF ($10-12mm).

It's a long ways away, and a lot can happen.
 

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But the rox are in 3rd.
When calculating the M#, you look at the opponent with the fewest losses. With the Rox loss, they now tie the dogs in the loss-column.

163 - (your wins + opponents losses) = M#
 

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But the good news is that with PV, Oxy, and presumably Romo and Lopez rolling off, for 2017 we have at least $40 million of cap room, even with the scheduled raises due, and even assuming the cap isn't raised. That should net at least two or three quality players. Maybe an SP ($20mm - relatively top-shelf), a quality reliever ($8-$10MM), and a decent OF ($10-12mm).

It's a long ways away, and a lot can happen.
Any adds the Giants will make this offseason, though, will likely be made through trades. This coming FA class SUCKS.
 

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But the good news is that with PV, Oxy, and presumably Romo and Lopez rolling off, for 2017 we have at least $40 million of cap room, even with the scheduled raises due, and even assuming the cap isn't raised. That should net at least two or three quality players. Maybe an SP ($20mm - relatively top-shelf), a quality reliever ($8-$10MM), and a decent OF ($10-12mm).

It's a long ways away, and a lot can happen.

Interesting take, here's how I see it

2017 has 9 committed contracts $144.5MM (Cain, Buster, Hunter, JC, SammyJam, Bum, Craw, Spanny, Belt).

1. PV is gone
2. Oxy is gone
3. Romo will be resigned...probably something like + $8MM
4. JLo is gone
5. Blanco probably back, call it + $6MM
6. KCya probably back, call it + $9MM
7. Kontos back at something like $2MM
8. Gearrin back at something like $1MM

So that's +26MM bringing us to $170.5 with 14 players.

Add in min contracts for Panik, Duffy, Heston, Strick, EA/Gillaspie, Osich, KT, Browine/Susac, JPark/Mac +$5MM, and we're at $175.5MM with 23 players.

So now we have:
SP - Bum, JC, SammyJam, Cain, Hesto
RP - KCya, Romo, Osich, Strick, Kontos, Gearrin
C - Posey, Brown/Susac
IF - Belt, Panik, Duffy, Craw, KT, EA/Gillaspie
OF - Span, Pence, Blanco, JPark/Mac

2 holes: OF and RP.

The current CBA expires wrt the luxury tax after this season, so let's assume it'll stay at $189MM. The Giants are not likely to exceed it, I'm thinking. We'd need to add in another $5MM or so for players on the 40 man who are not on the 25 man, so that brings us to $180MM give or take. They could plug their two holes with minor league players and that'd bring us to roughly $182MM, or pretty close to the tax threshold. I'd think they'd reserve the $7MM or so for a trade deadline move.

Simply put, not nearly the $40MM of room you're thinking of. I made some assumptions (Romo 8, Blanco 6, Casilla 9) so if you redistribute that money you might get your quality reliever and decent OF, but no FA SP is likely headed to SF. Unless we pick him up at the trade deadline. Even then, I'd rather spend 17 on Romo and Casilla than roll the dice on the FA RP market. But, we shall see.
 
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