4 Years, $60 Million for.........Aaron Hicks?

[Cyder]

7 years are guaranteed, there's a club option for year 8.

I was quoting Evan Roberts who was just talking about it on the radio. I should have used the google

 

[nynasty]

Sounds like Betances is next.

Sea-change in the Yankee organizational philosophy. I like it.

 

[seattlefan75]

Why would they sign Adam Jones when they've already got Brett Gardner?

All either one of them are good for is defense these days, and at least Gardner will take a walk.

looking at brett Gardners numbers is all the more reason to sign Adam Jones lol. BG can take a few more walks but Jones has him on pretty much every category But Ellsbury doesn't look like he will be ready opening day

 

[black francis]

No fucking way he lasts 7 years in NY

At least he is still cheap enough to get traded, unlike Tonto.

 

[nynasty]

looking at brett Gardners numbers is all the more reason to sign Adam Jones lol. BG can take a few more walks but Jones has him on pretty much every category But Ellsbury doesn't look like he will be ready opening day

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree.

Gardner was terrible last year, and still posted a 2.8 WAR to Jones' 0.2.

It's not 2013 anymore.

 

[black francis]

just think how much more $ he'd have gotten if he averaged more than 116 games a season

 

[navamind]

Kind of an interesting list. How in hell does Tommy Pham get in here?
Matt Chapman too.

Chapman's probably the best defensive 3rd baseman in the league right now (and maybe one of the best defensive players in MLB) and a damn good hitter as well (.263/.341/.496, 127 OPS+ in 942 PA).

Pham's hit very well the last 2 years (.290/.388/.490, 135 OPS+) though I wouldn't have guessed he was near the top in WAR/650.

 

[navamind]

Jones has diminishing power, lousy OBP for an outfielder plus he's atrocious in the outfield. Any advantage Jones has offensively is undermined by his defense IMO.

 

[nynasty]

Jones has diminishing power, lousy OBP for an outfielder plus he's atrocious in the outfield. Any advantage Jones has offensively is undermined by his defense IMO.

I didn't realize his D had declined so much until I looked at his WAR.

Tough market, but not surprising he's on the outside looking in this spring.

 

[nynasty]

 

[Cyder]

looking at brett Gardners numbers is all the more reason to sign Adam Jones lol. BG can take a few more walks but Jones has him on pretty much every category But Ellsbury doesn't look like he will be ready opening day

They have enough outfielders. Judge and Hicks will start in right a center. Left will be split between Giancarlo and Gardner and it looks like Frazier is healthy and should compete for the job. AL teams only carry 3 bench players most of the time so carrying more than 5 outfielders (With Giancarlo DH'ing as well) isn't feasible. Gardner played too much last year, they need to keep him at 300 at bats at this point of his career.

 

[nynasty]

They have enough outfielders. Judge and Hicks will start in right a center. Left will be split between Giancarlo and Gardner and it looks like Frazier is healthy and should compete for the job. AL teams only carry 3 bench players most of the time so carrying more than 5 outfielders (With Giancarlo DH'ing as well) isn't feasible. Gardner played too much last year, they need to keep him at 300 at bats at this point of his career.

Absolutely. We need to hope that Frazier can take a major bite out of Gardner's playing time.

 

[Cyder]

Absolutely. We need to hope that Frazier can take a major bite out of Gardner's playing time.

And hopefully Gardner does better with less playing time. Last year all the injuries led to him playing more than I would have liked.

 

[navamind]

Twins player development was an absolute joke. Seems to have vastly improved now though.

 

[tducey]

I like Hicks but it might be a bit of an overpayment for him here. As to Jones/Gardner both were good players early in their career but their best might be behind them.

 

[The Q]

He needs to average legit 1 war per year to be worth this deal (7 war total) he’s probably pure profit after yeAr 2 or 3 of this deal

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Gleeman likes to blame everything on coaching and management no matter what, it can never be the players fault even a little bit.

Hicks checked out when he got to the majors and thought he could skate by on talent alone. There were multiple instances when he would show up to the ballpark without knowing who the opposing pitcher was that day.

The reason that the Twins publically criticized his work ethic is because he had very little.

He also made bird brain decisions about whether or not he would keep switch hitting. First he suggested that he only hit righty, then he tried it for a few days in the minors and then went back to being a switch hitter, then he suggested it again when he got back up to the majors.

That he's doing well now is due to him finally taking his career seriously and his struggles here were at least partly on him. I'd say mostly actually.

Buyer beware for the Yankees, because he could easily check out again after getting paid.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Kind of an interesting list. How in hell does Tommy Pham get in here?
Matt Chapman too.

Chapman isn’t surprising at all.

His glove is phenomenal and his bat is very good and improving.

 

[The Q]

Chapman isn’t surprising at all.

His glove is phenomenal and his bat is very good and improving.

Not to mention Oakland isn’t a hitters park.

 

[nynasty]

Gleeman likes to blame everything on coaching and management no matter what, it can never be the players fault even a little bit.

Hicks checked out when he got to the majors and thought he could skate by on talent alone. There were multiple instances when he would show up to the ballpark without knowing who the opposing pitcher was that day.

The reason that the Twins publically criticized his work ethic is because he had very little.

He also made bird brain decisions about whether or not he would keep switch hitting. First he suggested that he only hit righty, then he tried it for a few days in the minors and then went back to being a switch hitter, then he suggested it again when he got back up to the majors.

That he's doing well now is due to him finally taking his career seriously and his struggles here were at least partly on him. I'd say mostly actually.

Buyer beware for the Yankees, because he could easily check out again after getting paid.

I kind of wish he would just hit lefty. He's pretty useless from the right side. Mashes lefty.

But hey, teams make mistakes. Yanks traded Fred McGriff, Willie McGee, and Doug Drabek among many others and got pretty much squat back in return

Trading a #1 pick for a back up catcher definitely ranks as a monumental mistake, but one I'm pretty thrilled the Twins made.