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Series Thread: 2nd Round:Milwaukee Bucks vs Miami Heat

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Where is buckalis? :dhd:
 

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Also, the Bucks have struggled against elite defensive teams capable of keeping Giannis out of the paint.

That was not the Cavs.
Ok...and who has been able to stop that Lebron guy you keep forgetting about?
 

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For the first time, I'm actually thinking a finals appearance is a legit possibility for this Heat group. My ceiling for this group last September was a 2nd round appearance and don't get embarrassed by one of the top teams
so not far off from the guy who gets ripped when the Heat does well?
 

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@dtgold88 I gave you 1/9 of winning lineup. Hopefully you picked other 8.
had a rough night. My best lineup of 3 was the one I made last minute subbing out Hill for Bledsoe and getting Covington in.....but entered it less than a minute too late.
 

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Not so sure about that. couldn't there maybe be an up-and-coming team with a star and assets he could join like Lebron did when he came back?

Haven't looked at cap situations, though.
 

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If they waited until summer 2021 after this next season they could sign him. They would have enough cap. Doncic, Zinger and Giannis
If Giannis says he wants out, the Bucks would be smart to trade him before he walks. The Mavs may not want to risk him being somewhere else when he becomes a FA
 

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This may surprise you but Mecca and I are good friends.
I'm not surprised you're lying about that, no.

Her online friends are posters here, and they have already reported from her why she left. It's not what you are saying.
 

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If Giannis says he wants out, the Bucks would be smart to trade him before he walks. The Mavs may not want to risk him being somewhere else when he becomes a FA

Yeah I just don't think a trade is realistic, meaning I don't think the Bucks will trade him...the Bucks will have one more year to prove to him they can win. Then we will see...if Giannis wants out, Dallas will definitely be an option...so will Miami, Toronto...I'm sure the Knicks would be interested lol
 

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Yeah I just don't think a trade is realistic, meaning I don't think the Bucks will trade him...the Bucks will have one more year to prove to him they can win. Then we will see...if Giannis wants out, Dallas will definitely be an option...so will Miami, Toronto...I'm sure the Knicks would be interested lol
I don't agree. If they lose to the Heat this round I do not see Giannis staying. The Heat are young and will only get better where the Bucks are pretty much at their ceiling. How are you going to win a title form Milwaukee when you aren't going to get a better team and the team that just bumped you out is still on the rise? It's not over yet, but I doubt Giannis want his legacy to be that of Sir Charles.
 

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I don't agree. If they lose to the Heat this round I do not see Giannis staying. The Heat are young and will only get better where the Bucks are pretty much at their ceiling. How are you going to win a title form Milwaukee when you aren't going to get a better team and the team that just bumped you out is still on the rise? It's not over yet, but I doubt Giannis want his legacy to be that of Sir Charles.

I never said he would stay, I said trading for him isn't realistic. I think he could leave in 2021 especially if they keep losing like this...I just don't think the Bucks are going to trade him unless thinks get bad and Giannis forces his way out (don't think that happens either). He will be a free agent next summer, I don't think anything happens until then.
 

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I never said he would stay, I said trading for him isn't realistic. I think he could leave in 2021 especially if they keep losing like this...I just don't think the Bucks are going to trade him unless thinks get bad and Giannis forces his way out (don't think that happens either). He will be a free agent next summer, I don't think anything happens until then.
Why in the hell wouldn't Milwaukee want to get something before he leaves?
 

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Who is Miami's second star

I don't know about star yet, but it seems like Dragic, Herro and Bam have been stepping up at times like each of them might like to be that 2nd star.

The Heat don't depend on Butler as much as the Bucks depend on Giannis.
 

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How do they know he wants to leave unless he tells them he's gone? If he does, sure, trade him.
That's the scenario we're discussing isn't it? Obviously if he gives no indication he wants to leave it's different.

And just as obviously they will have long discussions with him and his agent before they decide
 

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I didn't want to say it last night but i definitely saw the Bucks hit Butler on the hand multiple times before the turnover

 

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Yeah I agree and I think Brogdon was a key player for them...or it seems last year. That could be very well be it though. Until Giannis establishes a jumper, teams (very few) will be able to play him a certain way with the right roster. Now, there aren't many teams that can do this...maybe Boston and Miami being really the only ones, I would also include Toronto...so basically the top teams. That doesn't bode well for the Bucks. It seems like something is just missing with this roster even with the high win total.

They need 2 things, imo.

Giannis needs to develop a reliable 15-20 foot shot.

They need either a 2nd star, or they need to put players around him like the Heat have around Butler. Guys who can take turns stepping up and do it consistently.

The Heat don't really need a true 2nd star (although I'm sure they'd like one) imo, because they know that Bam, Herro, Duncan or someone is going to step up and a lot of times, it'll be more than just 1 of them.
 

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Can we play rock, paper, scissors.......we can send which way we want to go with you and you can tell us who wins?

Works for me.

Just no rock, paper, scissors, Spock. lol
 

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That's the scenario we're discussing isn't it? Obviously if he gives no indication he wants to leave it's different.

And just as obviously they will have long discussions with him and his agent before they decide
Thought we were discussing if he might leave and if so where might he go. comment you replied to by shane didn't seem to imply Milwaukee would not deal him IF they thought he wanted to leave. He even said IF he wants out then maybe they'd move him (with Dallas as an option).
 

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I don't know about star yet, but it seems like Dragic, Herro and Bam have been stepping up at times like each of them might like to be that 2nd star.

The Heat don't depend on Butler as much as the Bucks depend on Giannis.

Agreed but long term you probably take Bam but short term would you say Khris isn't the third best player of both teams?
 
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