2025 Cowboy Draft

[UK Cowboy]

that cant be true.
but if it is, we should have already made the trade!

When i heard that I said the same thing. That kid would be PERFECT across from Lamb. Speed for days

 

[jarntt]

I think the way they have gone about the offseason, they have to get a RB in the first two rounds.
I have heard Jamison Williams from Detroit can be had for a 3rd rounder. There won't be any WR on the board nearly as good as him by round 3, I would jump on that.

that cant be true.
but if it is, we should have already made the trade!

Not me. I would for a 4th if we had one, but not a 3rd. He is already in the last year of his contract. Next year he costs you either $15M or a new deal. I’d rather draft one or just sign one.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Not me. I would for a 4th if we had one, but not a 3rd. He is already in the last year of his contract. Next year he costs you either $15M or a new deal. I’d rather draft one or just sign one.

I would jump on it because he is only 24 years old and coming off another great year. I don't mind paying really good players what they are worth, especially really good young guys.
That said, I get what you're saying. Problem is, the WR's drop off much faster this year than last. Anything after round 2 is a shot in the dark. It's why we are really a 3-4 year rebuild IMO. 3-4 really good drafts. We need to get back to drafting well

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Not me. I would for a 4th if we had one, but not a 3rd. He is already in the last year of his contract. Next year he costs you either $15M or a new deal. I’d rather draft one or just sign one.

well the devil would be in the details. If we were trading I assume we would have talked to him about extensions (or atleast we should) He started his career injured, so if we signed him for less than top dollar, which could be very likely if done now. You would have two #1's on the field. For #1 & #2 salaries. He will be a #1 for some team easily. If the guy is asking for the moon. then obviously dont make the trade. We are already paying CeeDee.
Yes if we could get a High end #2 in the draft that is easily the most advantageous. But also takes away a much needed pick, that could have been more useful elsewhere. unless you think we will land our #2 with a late pick.
When it comes to the draft pick used. I would have no problem using a 3rd to land that talent. That part is a no brainer. I wouldnt ruin the deal fighting to make it a 4th. Also as you know we will just give a 4th for a bathtub, so I just always assume we dont have a 4th LOL.

 

[jarntt]

I would jump on it because he is only 24 years old and coming off another great year. I don't mind paying really good players what they are worth, especially really good young guys.
That said, I get what you're saying. Problem is, the WR's drop off much faster this year than last. Anything after round 2 is a shot in the dark. It's why we are really a 3-4 year rebuild IMO. 3-4 really good drafts. We need to get back to drafting well

If he was coming off “another great year” I’d agree. But Look at his first two years. listen I like the guy and made a lot of money on him on prop bets last year because I knew he’d blow out his yardage over/unders if he played even 14 games, but he has not been consistent. I do love the talent though even though I wonder about his fit here. We just haven’t been able to really use elite speed guys. Not sure if that has been the offense or the QB but it just hasn’t meshed.

 

[jarntt]

Pearce is rumored to have character issues (compared to Gregory) and was arrested a little over a year ago. So which is it? You can’t trust anything you hear or read about this team.

Personally I’m of the belief that until you get some of these guys into your building you don’t really know what they are like. I’d hate to have my kids hear about some of what I did in College…

 

[UK Cowboy]

If he was coming off “another great year” I’d agree. But Look at his first two years. listen I like the guy and made a lot of money on him on prop bets last year because I knew he’d blow out his yardage over/unders if he played even 14 games, but he has not been consistent. I do love the talent though even though I wonder about his fit here. We just haven’t been able to really use elite speed guys. Not sure if that has been the offense or the QB but it just hasn’t meshed.

I think the fit is just what we need. 17.3 yards per catch, the big play threat we need. People are projecting Golden here for a 1st, if Golden pans out, he would be Jameson. You really wouldn't give up a 3rd for him?

 

[Godstree]

That's kind of the sad reality of where we are right now. We really can't miss. I think the biggest NEED we have(of many) is RB1, so if the draft is need, Hampton is fine at 12. 2nd biggest need is WR2 so McMillian or Golden are fine. Third IMO is CB so Johnson or Barron would be good. NT is 4th, Grant wouod be a good pick. 5th would be LT/RG so Josh Simmons or Booker would work. We need an edge, so Walker works. It's going to be really hard for them to make a pick where I throw something at the TV, but i never underestimate Jerry and Stephens ability to do just that

I think the biggest need is OL. If your RB is constantly met in the backfield there is only so much you can do. Dak can't do shit with pressure, needs help protecting his ass. Lamb is fucking awesome and a warrior but all his balls will be short throws and RAC if dak has no time.

Second biggest need, DT. We get chewed up and spit out from that standpoint. Eagles DOMINATE us in the trenches. And they have saquan. We will never get past them if can't overcome their running game.

RB and WR are candy. I want a steak dinner. Winning SB talk is fun but we can't get there when we are finishing 2nd in the division. Right now skinz have that locked up it seems.

Just my opinion on the state of needs.

 

[Godstree]

I think the way they have gone about the offseason, they have to get a RB in the first two rounds.
I have heard Jamison Williams from Detroit can be had for a 3rd rounder. There won't be any WR on the board nearly as good as him by round 3, I would jump on that.

I don't see Detroit parting with him. They have a two headed monster here and it is working out very well and if they didn't get the injury bug, more like a pandemic for them, would have walked though the playoffs.

 

[Godstree]

Pearce is rumored to have character issues (compared to Gregory) and was arrested a little over a year ago. So which is it? You can’t trust anything you hear or read about this team.

Personally I’m of the belief that until you get some of these guys into your building you don’t really know what they are like. I’d hate to have my kids hear about some of what I did in College…

I thought the flute story was well known...

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think the biggest need is OL. If your RB is constantly met in the backfield there is only so much you can do. Dak can't do shit with pressure, needs help protecting his ass. Lamb is fucking awesome and a warrior but all his balls will be short throws and RAC if dak has no time.

Second biggest need, DT. We get chewed up and spit out from that standpoint. Eagles DOMINATE us in the trenches. And they have saquan. We will never get past them if can't overcome their running game.

RB and WR are candy. I want a steak dinner. Winning SB talk is fun but we can't get there when we are finishing 2nd in the division. Right now skinz have that locked up it seems.

Just my opinion on the state of needs.

Eagles lost their great center and added Barkley and won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys won 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, but when 22 held out, we went 0-2. We had an offensive like when Dak got here that had 3 HOF offensive linemen(Fred won't be, but he certainly was) and never won shit. You better get a RB

 

[UK Cowboy]

I don't see Detroit parting with him. They have a two headed monster here and it is working out very well and if they didn't get the injury bug, more like a pandemic for them, would have walked though the playoffs.

Possibly. I wonder if they are being preemptive though. He's a very good but not great player. That team has enormous talent that is starting to get paid/about to get paid. Maybe they don't want to end up like us lol

 

[UK Cowboy]

Pearce is rumored to have character issues (compared to Gregory) and was arrested a little over a year ago. So which is it? You can’t trust anything you hear or read about this team.

Personally I’m of the belief that until you get some of these guys into your building you don’t really know what they are like. I’d hate to have my kids hear about some of what I did in College…

Exactly. Jerry worrying about image is why we didn't draft Randy Moss, which probably cost us at least 1 more Ring IMO. I don't want Pearce if he OJ'd his girlfriend or if he is a Deshaun Watson serial sex offender, but if the kid got busted at a college party for getting drunk or had a bad attitude or something like that...Hell, Jerry does worse than that on the party bus

 

[jarntt]

I think the fit is just what we need. 17.3 yards per catch, the big play threat we need. People are projecting Golden here for a 1st, if Golden pans out, he would be Jameson. You really wouldn't give up a 3rd for him?

No. It's an early 3rd. It's not all that far from a late 2nd. I wouldn't. Let's see how the draft goes. I think there are comparable players who will be on a cheap rookie contract for 4 years, not 1. I don't want to give up that pick and then also have to pay him next year. That's my bigger issue. I think he is going to want big $'s and that would be the reason he is available. I'd rather have signed someone before I did that and kept my pick. Now if we don't come out of the draft with a WR and I could then go back in time, maybe I would, but I think this team is taking a WR

 

[jarntt]

I thought the flute story was well known...

That was in band camp. I couldn't sit for a week...

 

[UK Cowboy]

No. It's an early 3rd. It's not all that far from a late 2nd. I wouldn't. Let's see how the draft goes. I think there are comparable players who will be on a cheap rookie contract for 4 years, not 1. I don't want to give up that pick and then also have to pay him next year. That's my bigger issue. I think he is going to want big $'s and that would be the reason he is available. I'd rather have signed someone before I did that and kept my pick. Now if we don't come out of the draft with a WR and I could then go back in time, maybe I would, but I think this team is taking a WR

I get what you're saying. I guess for me, in a draft where the Cowboys have several needs to address, if I could give up a 3rd and KNOW that I scratched WR 2 off the needs list, I would jump it. Its all how you see the player. I really like that kid. I don't think the deal would hurt us. Certainly not like trading a 4th for Mingo LMAO

 

[jarntt]

I get what you're saying. I guess for me, in a draft where the Cowboys have several needs to address, if I could give up a 3rd and KNOW that I scratched WR 2 off the needs list, I would jump it. Its all how you see the player. I really like that kid. I don't think the deal would hurt us. Certainly not like trading a 4th for Mingo LMAO

If only we had that 4th...
But, that's water under the bridge at this point. Time to let that one go because we can't get it back. It's just another thing that reinforces the uphill battle this new coaching staff has when the GM is doing things like that. To me, their main job year 1 is just to undo all the wrong that McCarthy and the Jones Boyz have done to the culture of this franchise and start with the building blocks that will hopefully show up in a couple of years. That's part of why I'd love to see a massive improvement in the OL and DL. We just aren't putting a trophy on the shelf this year no matter how many pom-poms we want to waive. Let's get this thing pointed in the right direction so that come 2026 we are back in the mix.

 

[jarntt]

Changes daily, but my draft day ranking. Can't even say it's final with half a day to go!!!

Again, putting Ward first because I think he goes there, not because I think he is the best player because if I just rank him I don't know where to put him. Everyone else according to kind of how I personally rank them not where I think they will go. Leaving off all of those other Edge guys because I just can't differentiate between them other than Walker. Every time I do this I move Jihad Campbell up more and more. He just reminds me of a guy who might be like Micah was his first year - I think you play him off the ball on early downs and either blitz him or just let him rush the passer as an edge on 3rd downs and I think he is going to be really good. He is kind of in between a lighter Micah and a bigger Overshown type to me depending on where his playing weight ends up. Going into draft night I'd really be happy with any of these guys. I am also very worried that we take Golden. I just have a bad feeling about him. Yes, if we trade down into the 20's I won't be as disappointed, but not at 12 please.

Ward
Hunter
Carter
Membou
Campbell OT
Javon Walker
Campbell Ala
Jeanty
Graham
Warren
Harmon
Emmanwori
Simmons - top 10 if medically cleared
McMillan
Johnson Mich

As of now my hope is one of the OL falls to us or if not, that we take Campbell or Harmon. The talent/need just seems to perfect to ignore with all 4 of them.

 

[UK Cowboy]

If only we had that 4th...
But, that's water under the bridge at this point. Time to let that one go because we can't get it back. It's just another thing that reinforces the uphill battle this new coaching staff has when the GM is doing things like that. To me, their main job year 1 is just to undo all the wrong that McCarthy and the Jones Boyz have done to the culture of this franchise and start with the building blocks that will hopefully show up in a couple of years. That's part of why I'd love to see a massive improvement in the OL and DL. We just aren't putting a trophy on the shelf this year no matter how many pom-poms we want to waive. Let's get this thing pointed in the right direction so that come 2026 we are back in the mix.

I agree with that. It's why I've agrued that we need to take the best player on our board and not pick for needs. Spend 3 years upgrading the overall talent of this roster and use FA and trades to fill needs.
The problem, as you've stated, is that the Cowboys are doing so many things wrong, it forces them to compound the problem with more mistakes. They are a laughing stock around the league for overpaying Dak to the level they did. Now, they haven't learned a damn thing, they aren't getting Micahs deal done, while the price just goes up by the day. Now there are rumors about trading Micah...WTF???
All the contract mistakes are compounded by the teams unwillingness to spend money in FA. Now the club is a shell of what it was 3 years ago, depth wise. That in turn screws up our draft. When we took the best player on the board, we drafted great for years. The last 2 years, we drafted to fill needs and had one bust after another. If Mazi, Guyton and Schoonmaker are the return we get on two 1sts and a 2nd going forward, we are dead in the water. And yet, what is the talk for the Cowboys going into this draft? We NEED to hit on all three picks this year, at positions of need, we don't have a 4th, and they will still be looking for guys who can come in and start in round 5. And Jerry is out there yesterday talking about how he is the "tie breaker" on draft picks...this is what running a franchise into the ground looks like. Daniel Snyder would be proud

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I think the biggest need is OL. If your RB is constantly met in the backfield there is only so much you can do. Dak can't do shit with pressure, needs help protecting his ass. Lamb is fucking awesome and a warrior but all his balls will be short throws and RAC if dak has no time.

Second biggest need, DT. We get chewed up and spit out from that standpoint. Eagles DOMINATE us in the trenches. And they have saquan. We will never get past them if can't overcome their running game.

RB and WR are candy. I want a

steak dinner. Winning SB talk is fun but we can't get there when we are finishing 2nd in the division. Right now skinz have that locked up it seems.

Just my opinion on the state of needs.

The big problem with the offense early last season was all the pressure allowed by the offensive tackles. Steele and Guyton were terrible against the better pass rushers. Martin also was playing injured and he was allowing a lot of pressure up the middle. Dak had no time to throw.

Maybe they coach up Guyton and Steele plays like he did pre injury.