2025 Cowboy Draft

[UK Cowboy]

Now I could see that. If they can slide down to 17-18 and get Hampton, and another good pick, I have no problem with that.

I think if they pick for need(Which they will), the draft might stack up well for that. Guys that I think would be great players at need spots like RB's Hampton or Henderson or NT Grant from Michigan or WR like Egbuka, Golden or Burden...all those guys might be a bit of a reach on a lot of boards at 12. Any of them at like 20 wouod be good value and might net another starter in a top 100 pick

 

[UK Cowboy]

you are such a child...

Brother you make snide comments and then get bent when people give it back to you. Who's the child

 

[PDay8810]

Now I could see that. If they can slide down to 17-18 and get Hampton, and another good pick, I have no problem with that.

we should have odds on who is the most pissed at the conclusion of round 3.

 

[PDay8810]

Brother you make snide comments and then get bent when people give it back to you. Who's the child

who is bent?

you & the wizard remain the only two with bunched panties. Read the actual posts dude.

 

[UK Cowboy]

who is bent?

you & the wizard remain the only two with bunched panties. Read the actual posts dude.

You read them man...Anyone who has a differing opinion than you is the village idiot. We cant take one of the 6-7 best players in the draft because you don't think it's a need. We cant knock the Cowboys shitty approach to free agency because we haven't seen how the new coaches use them. We cant be against making Dak the highest paid QB in the game the last 5 years. And you sure as heck aren't allowed to think NT is a need because PDay doesn't think Mazi is a bust. I'm gonna stop listening to former scouts and GM's and just wait for the PDay report since it's the only one with any validity

 

[jarntt]

Question. Why is every bad pick Jerry and every good pick McClay.

We need to either praise or blame the draft team as one.

Like why is every move this year Schottenheimer but every move in past years Jerry? It’s 100% always the same as it has been for 20 years. Jerry knows no players other than guys like Manziel and Trey Lance. He blesses every move with the final OK, but doesn’t do much scouting or player analysis whatsoever I’m sure. He and Stephen set the free agent budget and the coaches can do nothing but pick at scraps within that budget which is why nothing gets done there and he runs the player re-signings/extensions which is why those too get screwed up and dragged out and why for example Micah still isn’t signed and will get more than any other team would have needed to pay him just like Dak.

It’s no secret he listened to Quinn and Marinelli on draft day about some of the defensive players and McClay and his crew always and the HCs and will this year with these coaches as well. Every year there is a Chuma Edoga or a Cam Fleming or a Saahdiq Charles added to the OL. They are all the same guy, just a different year and Jerry knows none of them. This year is absolutely the same as every other year. So the good and the bad are all Jerry and not Jerry at the same time. The more obscure, the less Jerry directly I would say. But yes I’m with you, the draft team as one, but only one has been here for 30 years.

I’m actually one to put our draft picks on the average in the top half of the league. It’s over-rating our own players when they become free agents and completely ignoring prime outside free agents that has led to our becoming borderline irrelevant and that won’t change any time soon and certainly didn’t this year and that is on the Jones Boyz.

 

[jarntt]

who is bent?

you & the wizard remain the only two with bunched panties. Read the actual posts dude.

Jeez dude, you are just so miserable 24/7. I can’t imagine you are any different in real life. I haven’t even interacted with you, but you just can’t resist. Oh well, you are what you are after all these years with your grudges and your clinging to comments and old conversations. People are just trying to talk about the team. Just Let it go already. Have a nice day

 

[PDay8810]

Jeez dude, you are just so miserable 24/7. I can’t imagine you are any different in real life. I haven’t even interacted with you, but you just can’t resist. Oh well, you are what you are after all these years with your grudges and your clinging to comments and old conversations. People are just trying to talk about the team. Just Let it go already. Have a nice day

 

[jarntt]

Fine. You win. Let it go.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Like why is every move this year Schottenheimer but every move in past years Jerry? It’s 100% always the same as it has been for 20 years. Jerry knows no players other than guys like Manziel and Trey Lance. He blesses every move with the final OK, but doesn’t do much scouting or player analysis whatsoever I’m sure. He and Stephen set the free agent budget and the coaches can do nothing but pick at scraps within that budget which is why nothing gets done there and he runs the player re-signings/extensions which is why those too get screwed up and dragged out and why for example Micah still isn’t signed and will get more than any other team would have needed to pay him just like Dak.

It’s no secret he listened to Quinn and Marinelli on draft day about some of the defensive players and McClay and his crew always and the HCs and will this year with these coaches as well. Every year there is a Chuma Edoga or a Cam Fleming or a Saahdiq Charles added to the OL. They are all the same guy, just a different year and Jerry knows none of them. This year is absolutely the same as every other year. So the good and the bad are all Jerry and not Jerry at the same time. The more obscure, the less Jerry directly I would say. But yes I’m with you, the draft team as one, but only one has been here for 30 years.

I’m actually one to put our draft picks on the average in the top half of the league. It’s over-rating our own players when they become free agents and completely ignoring prime outside free agents that has led to our becoming borderline irrelevant and that won’t change any time soon and certainly didn’t this year and that is on the Jones Boyz.

I think thats really the bottom line. This team has gone longer without making a conference championship than anyone. The common denominator is Jerry, he has made the final call on every decision. The Cowboys make more money than any other franchise in the NFL. The biggest separation between the world champion Eagles and the 7-10 Cowboys isn't offense or defense. It's the difference between Howie Roseman and Jerry Jones as GM's. That's a massive blowout

 

[Manster7588]

Like why is every move this year Schottenheimer but every move in past years Jerry? It’s 100% always the same as it has been for 20 years. Jerry knows no players other than guys like Manziel and Trey Lance. He blesses every move with the final OK, but doesn’t do much scouting or player analysis whatsoever I’m sure. He and Stephen set the free agent budget and the coaches can do nothing but pick at scraps within that budget which is why nothing gets done there and he runs the player re-signings/extensions which is why those too get screwed up and dragged out and why for example Micah still isn’t signed and will get more than any other team would have needed to pay him just like Dak.

It’s no secret he listened to Quinn and Marinelli on draft day about some of the defensive players and McClay and his crew always and the HCs and will this year with these coaches as well. Every year there is a Chuma Edoga or a Cam Fleming or a Saahdiq Charles added to the OL. They are all the same guy, just a different year and Jerry knows none of them. This year is absolutely the same as every other year. So the good and the bad are all Jerry and not Jerry at the same time. The more obscure, the less Jerry directly I would say. But yes I’m with you, the draft team as one, but only one has been here for 30 years.

I’m actually one to put our draft picks on the average in the top half of the league. It’s over-rating our own players when they become free agents and completely ignoring prime outside free agents that has led to our becoming borderline irrelevant and that won’t change any time soon and certainly didn’t this year and that is on the Jones Boyz.

That's a fair way to look at it. I've always shook my head when fans bitch about every bad Jerry draft pick, but give little to no credit for the good ones.

Now about Jerry screwing up the 2nd and 3rd contracts of "His" players, I 100% agree with you.

 

[Godstree]

Question. Why is every bad pick Jerry and every good pick McClay.

We need to either praise or blame the draft team as one.

easy there mr. mcclay is a god....

 

[jarntt]

That's a fair way to look at it. I've always shook my head when fans bitch about every bad Jerry draft pick, but give little to no credit for the good ones.

Now about Jerry screwing up the 2nd and 3rd contracts of "His" players, I 100% agree with you.

And on the draft you have to feel for these scouts who spend all year looking at players in what is supposed to be a secretive process just to have Jerry literally show our draft board to the cameras or basically tell the media what positions we are looking at like he seems to if you listen to him enough every year. So far, I think they have been surprisingly good this year on that front because Jerry has been oddly mostly off camera from before and including the combine and since, but Stephen did manage to get the term Dak friendly out a couple of times which is why I keep saying it's likely WR (assuming the top RB is gone). A chip off the old block. Our best hope is for Jerry's grandson to have some commonsense, but most of us will be long past our prime by then.

 

[jarntt]

One follow up on the information leaks. There is a video out there of Broaddus (probably not believable because he is usually full of crap, but still interesting) saying he was told by his sources that they will not take Hampton at #12. So either they are putting out a smoke screen or they are still talking too much.

 

[jarntt]

This is why I treat the draft and offseason as more of a two (heck maybe 3) year process and don't draft for need but just try to acquire great players. Odds like opinions are wrong as often as they are right, but there is no 2025 season SB trophy coming back to Dallas. Just keep acquiring guys who get you towards the ultimate goal. The other way hasn't worked for decades, why is it all of a sudden going to start working now? Give these coaches a chance to turn around the culture and build something. It starts with a plan and a vision for what the team should look like. Man would I love it if we gave this OC a stud OL as a building block for this season and for the future and let him do what he did in AZ with what he would then have to work with here.

 

[jarntt]

I think Nick Eatman is reading my posts. Admittedly he is perhaps a little more eloquent than I:

jarntt: "you trade back when you are on the clock and you have 5 guys ranked as the next best and they are all close enough that you don't mind which you get and you move back 5 spots or less. You don't do it if you have 2 guys ranked as the next best and you would be moving back 5 spots."


nick: "If the Cowboys are on the clock at No. 12 and there's a chance to move down about 5 spots and there are still 5 guys on their board with first-round grades, then I might consider, depending on what else the compensation looks like"

Mailbag: Trade down from No. 12 to add picks?

 

[jarntt]

I also love this idea that the other guys states if there is someone we like on the board of course, but not having a 4th it will also take one of next years picks or a player to do so IMO. One of our safeties? TEs? Is Steele tradeable at his fully guaranteed $13M salary this year? Probably, but that would require having taken an OL in round 1 or 2 I would think. We really don't have a lot of spare parts to give up that other teams may value so I think it would mean a pick from next year, so you have to love the player.

The Cowboys enter this draft with 10 picks overall but just three in the top 100. So based on the numbers, it would seem that if the Cowboys are unable find a dance partner to drop a few spots in the first round and pick up another top-100 slot, then trying to package some of those lower picks to move back up would indeed be wise.

Personally I'd love to use those 5th - 7th rounders to be aggressive earlier in the draft to move up if we have that one guy we wanted to target instead of risking losing him.

 

[Manster7588]

I think Nick Eatman is reading my posts. Admittedly he is perhaps a little more eloquent than I:

jarntt: "you trade back when you are on the clock and you have 5 guys ranked as the next best and they are all close enough that you don't mind which you get and you move back 5 spots or less. You don't do it if you have 2 guys ranked as the next best and you would be moving back 5 spots."


nick: "If the Cowboys are on the clock at No. 12 and there's a chance to move down about 5 spots and there are still 5 guys on their board with first-round grades, then I might consider, depending on what else the compensation looks like"

Mailbag: Trade down from No. 12 to add picks?

That's what I've been saying. If you think you can move back a little and still get you guy and if he's picked you know you'll have a viable option you trade back.

You trade up if you fully believe the GUY you WANT won't be there.

If the guy you want made it to your spot you take him and concentrate on the next pick.

 

[jarntt]

That's what I've been saying. If you think you can move back a little and still get you guy and if he's picked you know you'll have a viable option you trade back.

You trade up if you fully believe the GUY you WANT won't be there.

If the guy you want made it to your spot you take him and concentrate on the next pick.

On your first line...But you can't ever know that you can move back and still get your guy. That's the risk I don't take if I have "a guy" And if I have a few guys that's when I do the math of how many spots I'm moving back and how many guys I'm getting and what's the compensation. In later rounds sure, but at pick #12 no chance I'm passing on a player for a lesser player if that's how I see them to pick up a random 3rd round pick.

On the bolded: YES!!!!! We totally agree on that. That's my whole point on this entire discussion. If your guy is there, take him!!!

 

[UK Cowboy]

I also love this idea that the other guys states if there is someone we like on the board of course, but not having a 4th it will also take one of next years picks or a player to do so IMO. One of our safeties? TEs? Is Steele tradeable at his fully guaranteed $13M salary this year? Probably, but that would require having taken an OL in round 1 or 2 I would think. We really don't have a lot of spare parts to give up that other teams may value so I think it would mean a pick from next year, so you have to love the player.

The Cowboys enter this draft with 10 picks overall but just three in the top 100. So based on the numbers, it would seem that if the Cowboys are unable find a dance partner to drop a few spots in the first round and pick up another top-100 slot, then trying to package some of those lower picks to move back up would indeed be wise.

Personally I'd love to use those 5th - 7th rounders to be aggressive earlier in the draft to move up if we have that one guy we wanted to target instead of risking losing him.

Sounds good on its face, though I think we only get so much draft capital back for day 3 picks. Packaging two 5ths and a 6th might get you back into the top half of round 4. Or maybe adding two 5ths to your 3rd could move you to the top of the 3rd