2025 Cowboy Draft

[jarntt]

How is that point missed again? You're babbling about getting 5 starters or contributors in this draft. That would be great but all we are pointing out are the facts about their last 10 drafts

Ah, now I see. 5 starters or contributors from one draft? In Year 1? Jerry isn't the only one drinking...

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

5th - 149, 171, 174
6th - 204, 211
7th - 239, 247
257 Total Draft Picks This Draft

We need 5 starters/contributors from this draft.
Starters, Rotational and package players all count. Picks 12, 44, and 76 seem to require hitting outta the park. Our seven picks from the last 100 plus draft picks have to deliver. Trade back in round one or two to gain another top 75 pick should be considered if something were to materialize. Maybe package a 5th and 6th to gain a 4th will play out. I'm thinking THIS is where Will McClay needs to shine his best.

What position groups seem the more likely where you could find that first game rotational / package player on Day 3? I think it's a 1 tech DT, RB, slot corner or dime DB-LB....maybe a two down thumper LB or a guard.

Those early picks need to include a corner and a WR. Least to me they do. I'd still stand at 12 and draft Membou, but I don't see SF letting him past 11 if he were to fall.

Yep. 1st round potential options

CB Johnson or Barron.
WR ,McMillan,Burden,Egbuka, Golden


But if Membou or Simmons are there I pick one of them. Either of these two would upgrade the OL. There are so many weak spots and holes though.

what rotational DT is a 4th, maybe a 5th rounder?
Oregon DT Caldwell, 6'1 340, quick run stuffing day 1 contributor.

what rotational DT is a 5th, maybe a 6th rounder?
Indiana DT C J West, 6'2 325, very quick, attacking one gap.

RB's galore day 3 SHOULD THIS NEW OC & OLINE COACH like a certain back for their day 3 emphases towards THEIR run game vision.
I might draft RB round two should they get the Mizzou OT first pick.

I've read about a guard outta Sacramento State ranked 125 to 175 where two scouts think his tape don't lie, they say NFL starter.
Jackson Slater, 6'4, 320

There are defensive tackles in this draft that are desirable. I hope they get one in round one or two. I agree with Membou. I would not hesitate if Membou dropped to 12. Imagine the him keeping people off Dak and they obviously going to be able to run on his side. Smith and Beebe will also get it done.

Running backs I hope they draft two I want either Blue or Tuten as one of the running backs.

I know a lot want receiver ,but I want help with the trenches in round one.

 

[PDay8810]

In the last 10 Dallas drafts we have averaged 2 first year starters. In Drafts we picked for need it's closer to 1/0

but my topic was starter, key rotational or package guy in addition to any special teams.
Your GM second guessing excluded. I know Mazi, Guyton and Schoonmaker are all horrible selections to the peanut gallery, but they are included towards the point.

2024 draft
Guyton - Starter
Kneeland - Rotational guy with bigger role expansion coming
Beebe - Starter
Liufau - package guy with bigger role expansion coming

2023 Draft
Mazi - Starter
Schoonmaker - Package guy
Overshown - Starter and rotation guy

2022 Draft
Tyler Smith - Starter
Sam Williams - Package rotation guy
Tolbert - Package guy or starter thus far
Fergusion - Starter
Bland - Starter

2021 Osi and Parsons worked out.

now you can shit on the opinion all you want, tell me I'm babbling, and a schoonmaker lap dog all you want.

I will be positive and FIVE (5) outta this draft is very much possible.
That would be Five (5) starter, key rotational or package guy in addition to any special teams they play.

 

[PDay8810]

Yep. 1st round potential options

CB Johnson or Barron.
WR ,McMillan,Burden,Egbuka, Golden

My guy would be either corner, Johnson preferred and I think Egbuka is the best WR for this team.
we'll see.

 

[UK Cowboy]

but my topic was starter, key rotational or package guy in addition to any special teams.
Your GM second guessing excluded. I know Mazi, Guyton and Schoonmaker are all horrible selections to the peanut gallery, but they are included towards the point.

2024 draft
Guyton - Starter
Kneeland - Rotational guy with bigger role expansion coming
Beebe - Starter
Liufau - package guy with bigger role expansion coming

2023 Draft
Mazi - Starter
Schoonmaker - Package guy
Overshown - Starter and rotation guy

2022 Draft
Tyler Smith - Starter
Sam Williams - Package rotation guy
Tolbert - Package guy or starter thus far
Fergusion - Starter
Bland - Starter

2021 Osi and Parsons worked out.

now you can shit on the opinion all you want, tell me I'm babbling, and a schoonmaker lap dog all you want.

I will be positive and FIVE (5) outta this draft is very much possible.
That would be Five (5) starter, key rotational or package guy in addition to any special teams they play.

And exactly what do you think "starters" like a first year Mazi or first year Guyton are going to add to the win total? Of course they fucking started, the Cowboys didn't sign anyone worth a shit in FA to play either position. They were "need" picks who were handed their jobs. Maybe they will develop into solid starters by year 3 or 4, but that's what you hope for from your damn 3rd round pick, not your 1st. Spin it however you want to fit your narrative, neither one was worth a shit their rookie year

 

[jarntt]

I guess we all hope we hit on every single pick. I’m sure we can agree on that. As long as we hit a home run at #12 it will make everything else a little easier. Plus I still say we trade for a player or sign a guy at some point. I am a broken record sometimes but I just can’t shake the thought of how much better I think we would be if we went into the draft with Keenan Allen and Calais Cambell added to this current group.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I guess we all hope we hit on every single pick. I’m sure we can agree on that. As long as we hit a home run at #12 it will make everything else a little easier. Plus I still say we trade for a player or sign a guy at some point. I am a broken record sometimes but I just can’t shake the thought of how much better I think we would be if we went into the draft with Keenan Allen and Calais Cambell added to this current group.

Those are moves that would allow you to draft the besy player available through most of the draft. Right now, WR2, NT and CB are glaring needs

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Those are moves that would allow you to draft the besy player available through most of the draft. Right now, WR2, NT and CB are glaring needs

I think RB is also a need. Those two backs they signed were not great last year

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think RB is also a need. Those two backs they signed were not great last year

RB is a huge need as well. We have no backup QB. We have a guy on here acting like it's foolishness to take Will Howard in round 2. Who the Hell is gonna step in when our often injured QB goes down again? No wonder Jerry is paying Dak $60M when Josh Freaking Allen signs for $55M AFTER the Dak signing...some of our fanbase has bought into Jerry's idiotic philosophy that you can just find QB's under rocks and investing in the most important position is a bad thing SMH

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

RB is a huge need as well. We have no backup QB. We have a guy on here acting like it's foolishness to take Will Howard in round 2. Who the Hell is gonna step in when our often injured QB goes down again? No wonder Jerry is paying Dak $60M when Josh Freaking Allen signs for $55M AFTER the Dak signing...some of our fanbase has bought into Jerry's idiotic philosophy that you can just find QB's under rocks and investing in the most important position is a bad thing SMH

If Dak goes down early I would go into tank mode and address QB in 26. Howard I admit made a lot of nice throws to Egbuka..

TBH I have a QB I'm mind to draft in 26 and he will be playing for Texas this year. Lol. I admit this is why I don't want to draft a Qb in this draft.

I am open to drafting a Qb in five,but Howard likely will be gone.. this is what angers me about trading away that 4th round pick. If they trade down and get extra picks then I am more open to drafting a QB.

 

[UK Cowboy]

If Dak goes down early I would go into tank mode and address QB in 26. Howard I admit made a lot of nice throws to Egbuka..

TBH I have a QB I'm mind to draft in 26 and he will be playing for Texas this year. Lol. I admit this is why I don't want to draft a Qb in this draft.

I am open to drafting a Qb in five,but Howard likely will be gone.. this is what angers me about trading away that 4th round pick. If they trade down and get extra picks then I am more open to drafting a QB.

Problem with waiting for Manning is, the only way you're getting him is the #1 overall pick. I don't think we can tank that much

 

[PDay8810]

RB is a huge need as well. We have no backup QB. We have a guy on here acting like it's foolishness to take Will Howard in round 2. Who the Hell is gonna step in when our often injured QB goes down again?

LoL
Will Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round is the stupidest thing I've seen posted yet.

 

[UK Cowboy]

LoL
Will Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round is the stupidest thing I've seen posted yet.

You must have missed the dumbass whi said we need 5 first year starter/contributors from this years draft. You also thought i was dumb for wanting to draft Jordan Love 5 years ago and Bi Nix last year. A few years from now extend Dak because we have no plan B. Look in the mirror

 

[PDay8810]

You must have missed the dumbass whi said we need 5 first year starter/contributors from this years draft. You also thought i was dumb for wanting to draft Jordan Love 5 years ago and Bi Nix last year. A few years from now extend Dak because we have no plan B. Look in the mirror

i never had an opinion on Love.
Spin again chuckles.

you define the word...reactionary

 

[Schmoopy1000]

You must have missed the dumbass whi said we need 5 first year starter/contributors from this years draft. You also thought i was dumb for wanting to draft Jordan Love 5 years ago and Bi Nix last year. A few years from now extend Dak because we have no plan B. Look in the mirror

i never had an opinion on Love.
Spin again chuckles.

you define the word...reactionary

I do.
Fuck Jordan Love. LOL

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Problem with waiting for Manning is, the only way you're getting him is the #1 overall pick. I don't think we can tank that much

The Cowboys are already compromised on Defense due to the injuries to Overshown and Diggs. The only position group I feel good about is the edge rushers. Teams attack weakness. They are going to run the ball all over on this defense unless these Dumb fucks get it through their pea brains they need to add multiple new good defensive tackles!

On offense we just don't have the players. The offensive tackle situation is not good. Only one good receiver. A downgrade at RG. The RB situation seems worse than last year. TE don't scare nobody. Other than that I see a lot of weakness that this team has not had in a quite a while.

I could see them with a top five pick in 26 without tanking. IMO they are not better than last season with all the moves they made this off season. They are not better and that schedule is tougher this season

 

[UK Cowboy]

i never had an opinion on Love.
Spin again chuckles.

you define the word...reactionary

Wanting to draft a QB is reactionary now? Let me ask you something Bro, had we drafted a QB any time the last 6 years that looked like they had a chance to be a player, would we be stuck with a quarter of a billion dollar contract to a broken down QB? That's not reactionary fella, that's preparation

 

[UK Cowboy]

The Cowboys are already compromised on Defense due to the injuries to Overshown and Diggs. The only position group I feel good about is the edge rushers. Teams attack weakness. They are going to run the ball all over on this defense unless these Dumb fucks get it through their pea brains they need to add multiple new good defensive tackles!

On offense we just don't have the players. The offensive tackle situation is not good. Only one good receiver. A downgrade at RG. The RB situation seems worse than last year. TE don't scare nobody. Other than that I see a lot of weakness that this team has not had in a quite a while.

I could see them with a top five pick in 26 without tanking. IMO they are not better than last season with all the moves they made this off season. They are not better and that schedule is tougher this season

I'll tell you why you and i are open minded about players like Warren and others think it's just dumb. It's the word Need. I keep hearing we NEED this or that so we can't draft a great TE or QB. Need them for what?? If the answer is to be a Super Bowl contender, then that's a screwed plan. We could fill our need at corner with a young Deion Sanders and this club still ain't sniffing a SB. Compete. Yes. But this is a 3-4 year rebuild jon in my eyes

 

[PDay8810]

Wanting to draft a QB is reactionary now? Let me ask you something Bro, had we drafted a QB any time the last 6 years that looked like they had a chance to be a player, would we be stuck with a quarter of a billion dollar contract to a broken down QB? That's not reactionary fella, that's preparation

the more you post the stupider you sound fella.
least in my opinion you do.

Yes
Five (5) starters, rolational guys or package guys.
We had 4 last year, 3 the next and 5 the year before that.

BUT HEY you and your draft podcasts know the better players than the staff of a professional sports team. I get it, Chris fucking Sims rules.

You Sir have become starone, areana and the ass hat ranger fan opinions here. It's become the general board for a couple of you guys.

 

[jarntt]

I think RB is also a need. Those two backs they signed were not great last year

Like someone (Hank?) said a few days back everything is a need but the kitchen sink. Roster building and the Cowboys do not go hand in hand...