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2025 Cowboy Draft

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these are all opinions. I remain fine with that. I think I'm speaking much more about what I think this team is thinking more so than what I'd do.

THREE PICKS only covers just so many percieved needs. DT, DE, CB, LB, OL, WR, RB and for some out there a TE and a BU QB in round 3.

SCREAMS TRADE DOWN TO ME
 
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I love hearing more and more chatter about this team needing to add talent to its DT room and especially at the 1 tech where we are weak. Hopefully ol' rabbit ears Jerry is listening. I would love one of the first two listed in this article, but I think the Ohio State kid may go sooner than people think and could be gone by pick #44 and I'm not sure the Texas kid would be the best available at that point of the draft. The second two listed aren't day 2 talents IMO and with us not having a 4th rounder I don't know if either lasts until the 5th? But, man would I really love Tyleik Williams. This team is just not tough enough. We need a big strong presence and need to start being tougher on both sides of the ball. He would be a nice start

I like Caldwell and Williams. A lot of value at DT and I want them to pick one in the first three rounds. It's sad because I see several nose tackles in this draft that I view as significant up grades over Mazi. and knowing this I hope they draft two defensive tackles in this draft. When I watch Mazi play i see a player that gets mauled nearly every snap. Teams don't need to double team Mazi and that is a problem.

Sometimes you have to look at a player and say this guy should not be starting regardless of where he was drafted. I am at that point with Mazi.
 

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these are all opinions. I remain fine with that. I think I'm speaking much more about what I think this team is thinking more so than what I'd do.

THREE PICKS only covers just so many percieved needs. DT, DE, CB, LB, OL, WR, RB and for some out there a TE and a BU QB in round 3.

SCREAMS TRADE DOWN TO ME
I totally agree. I see them with a short list of players that they think are worthy at being picked at 12. If all those players are gone then they are going to be on the phone frantically trying to call teams.

I think they want to draft a wideout in round one. That not what I would do. Jerry loves his toys.
 

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I still can't get past hoping this team doesn't do something dumb like try to pick guys with week 1 of next year in mind and force their needs. It's a multi-year plan or it's a failure before it's started. There is no 2025 Super Bowl. The goal should be building a Super Bowl winner not trying to reverse the much deserved criticism from a disastrous 2024.

I really doubt either guy is there which makes this nothing more than an exercise for presentation purposes, but I would love something like Membou (or best OL) at 12 and then Tyleik Williams at 44). Talk about changing the makeup of this team and making us more physical in a heart beat. The beauty of Membou is he would be our best OT day 1 or he could start at OG while we figure out the other two if Guyton finds himself all of a sudden. The push from Tyler, Beebe and Membou in the middle or from Center to LT for a team that wants to run the ball? Not to mention that the Eagles and Giants have 2 of the best DTs and who both happen to have elite strength speed combos if he starts at OG. Then Williams would change our entire defensive makeup as a dominant 1 tech who is both stout and disruptive. Start him on early downs alongside a rotation of Osa and Mazi and then some snaps on later downs to get a little bull rush once in a while with Osa and a rotation of a bunch of guys. More players and better players at DT in a rotation to keep guys fresh and performing will go a long way and especially when you have Micah coming from the outside and the speed that we do at LBer, but without the strength to consistently hold up against and shed OL at the 2nd level.
You and I diaagree on some things, but not how to draft. If you are drafting and your best available player is a 1st round grade and say your #8 overall player and a LB but your #9 player is also on the board and has the same grade and is a nose tackle, then yeah, need can be the tie breaker. But you CAN NOT go into the draft with those two on the board and say, well, our biggest need is RB, and since Jeanty is gone, we are going to take our 21st rated player Hampton because we need a RB. That's how you bust
 

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I totally agree. I see them with a short list of players that they think are worthy at being picked at 12. If all those players are gone then they are going to be on the phone frantically trying to call teams.

I think they want to draft a wideout in round one. That not what I would do. Jerry loves his toys.
The problem with being a Cowboys fan, is that any move you make is after another round of shitty moves by the Jones Boys. Take Dak...when I said 5 years ago and again last year that I wouldn't pay Dak, I got bashed on here and told we HAD to, and did I want Cooper Rush as our QB? And of course they are right. But I can also bring up posts from 5 years ago saying I would take Jordan Love in roind one and i posted last year I would try and move up for Bo Nix. The problem is, the Cowboys paint themselves into a corner of self inflicted stupidity. So when we draft and the best player on my board is like #5 overall to me and I think he will be somewhere between Gronk and Kelce during his career, im taking him. But on the flip side, I wouldn't have a gaping hole at nickle because I would have paid Jourdan Lewis, I would have signed a legitimate starting RG, and I sure as Hell wouldn't have traded a 4th for Mingo. So yeah, TE may not be a need, but I'll draft studs and tell Jerry to go do his damn job
 

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The problem with being a Cowboys fan, is that any move you make is after another round of shitty moves by the Jones Boys. Take Dak...when I said 5 years ago and again last year that I wouldn't pay Dak, I got bashed on here and told we HAD to, and did I want Cooper Rush as our QB? And of course they are right. But I can also bring up posts from 5 years ago saying I would take Jordan Love in roind one and i posted last year I would try and move up for Bo Nix. The problem is, the Cowboys paint themselves into a corner of self inflicted stupidity. So when we draft and the best player on my board is like #5 overall to me and I think he will be somewhere between Gronk and Kelce during his career, im taking him. But on the flip side, I wouldn't have a gaping hole at nickle because I would have paid Jourdan Lewis, I would have signed a legitimate starting RG, and I sure as Hell wouldn't have traded a 4th for Mingo. So yeah, TE may not be a need, but I'll draft studs and tell Jerry to go do his damn job
I've said over and over and over. Every player has a value and you don't go over that value or at least not significantly over. There is ALWAYS another player out there to replace your players that you let go other than your elite HOFers like Micah and maybe CeeDee. Dak isn't a top 10 QB and by the end of this 4 year contract which starts this September when he will be 32 and coming off another major injury, I'm not sure if he will be top 20. The idea that the Cowboys needed to pay Dak because they had no one else was never a valid argument for the first contract and absolutely was not a valid argument for this second contract. They would have had $400M in cap space between the two contracts to figure it out and it is not like the old days when QBs don't switch teams. There are always stop gaps available. People who are afraid don't win Super Bowls. The Cowboys brain trust is afraid. They are afraid to have a down year and they had one any way. They are afraid to pay free agents. They are afraid to let their stars go and yet also afraid to sign them. So they do the worst of things which is eventually sign them for the most amount of money possible.
 

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I've said over and over and over. Every player has a value and you don't go over that value or at least not significantly over. There is ALWAYS another player out there to replace your players that you let go other than your elite HOFers like Micah and maybe CeeDee. Dak isn't a top 10 QB and by the end of this 4 year contract which starts this September when he will be 32 and coming off another major injury, I'm not sure if he will be top 20. The idea that the Cowboys needed to pay Dak because they had no one else was never a valid argument for the first contract and absolutely was not a valid argument for this second contract. They would have had $400M in cap space between the two contracts to figure it out and it is not like the old days when QBs don't switch teams. There are always stop gaps available. People who are afraid don't win Super Bowls. The Cowboys brain trust is afraid. They are afraid to have a down year and they had one any way. They are afraid to pay free agents. They are afraid to let their stars go and yet also afraid to sign them. So they do the worst of things which is eventually sign them for the most amount of money possible.
Absolutely. Take last season. Some people will say " You didn't know Dak would get hurt". But we were already getting our ass kicked when he was healthy. And it's not the first time. So IF, they had not paid Dak and let him walk, and IF they hadn't thrown away a 4th, they could have easily flipped that 4th for Kirk Cousins or signed Russell Wilson. They could have then drafted Jaxson Dart with #12 and used $60 Million per year in cap space to sign anyone they wanted each year. You can't convince me we wouldn't be far better off
 

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Dak isn't a top 10 QB?

Burrow
Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

AGREED..6 to go.

After one year in the league are we certain Daniels is ahead of Dak? I can't after one year, but lets put Daniels as better already. Hurts too cause he won the last SB. That's 6 with 4 to go.

Goff, Stroud, Herbert?
BOY....I could debate each but lets add all three for shits and grins.
This makes 9 (some debatable)

Mayfield?
Darnald?
Geno?
Cousins?
Tua?
Purdy?
Carr?
Stafford?
Murray?
Lawarence?
Rodgers?
Young?
Nix?
Williams?
Richardson?
Pennix?
Wilson?

Dak not top 10?

shoot, Dak may be closer to 5 than 15, much less 20.
 
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