2025 Cowboy Draft

[PDay8810]

these are all opinions. I remain fine with that. I think I'm speaking much more about what I think this team is thinking more so than what I'd do.

THREE PICKS only covers just so many percieved needs. DT, DE, CB, LB, OL, WR, RB and for some out there a TE and a BU QB in round 3.

SCREAMS TRADE DOWN TO ME

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I love hearing more and more chatter about this team needing to add talent to its DT room and especially at the 1 tech where we are weak. Hopefully ol' rabbit ears Jerry is listening. I would love one of the first two listed in this article, but I think the Ohio State kid may go sooner than people think and could be gone by pick #44 and I'm not sure the Texas kid would be the best available at that point of the draft. The second two listed aren't day 2 talents IMO and with us not having a 4th rounder I don't know if either lasts until the 5th? But, man would I really love Tyleik Williams. This team is just not tough enough. We need a big strong presence and need to start being tougher on both sides of the ball. He would be a nice start

4 run-stuffing defensive tackles the Cowboys should consider drafting on day two

The Cowboys really need to add a one-technique.

www.bloggingtheboys.com

I like Caldwell and Williams. A lot of value at DT and I want them to pick one in the first three rounds. It's sad because I see several nose tackles in this draft that I view as significant up grades over Mazi. and knowing this I hope they draft two defensive tackles in this draft. When I watch Mazi play i see a player that gets mauled nearly every snap. Teams don't need to double team Mazi and that is a problem.

Sometimes you have to look at a player and say this guy should not be starting regardless of where he was drafted. I am at that point with Mazi.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

these are all opinions. I remain fine with that. I think I'm speaking much more about what I think this team is thinking more so than what I'd do.

THREE PICKS only covers just so many percieved needs. DT, DE, CB, LB, OL, WR, RB and for some out there a TE and a BU QB in round 3.

SCREAMS TRADE DOWN TO ME

I totally agree. I see them with a short list of players that they think are worthy at being picked at 12. If all those players are gone then they are going to be on the phone frantically trying to call teams.

I think they want to draft a wideout in round one. That not what I would do. Jerry loves his toys.

 

[jarntt]

 

[UK Cowboy]

I still can't get past hoping this team doesn't do something dumb like try to pick guys with week 1 of next year in mind and force their needs. It's a multi-year plan or it's a failure before it's started. There is no 2025 Super Bowl. The goal should be building a Super Bowl winner not trying to reverse the much deserved criticism from a disastrous 2024.

I really doubt either guy is there which makes this nothing more than an exercise for presentation purposes, but I would love something like Membou (or best OL) at 12 and then Tyleik Williams at 44). Talk about changing the makeup of this team and making us more physical in a heart beat. The beauty of Membou is he would be our best OT day 1 or he could start at OG while we figure out the other two if Guyton finds himself all of a sudden. The push from Tyler, Beebe and Membou in the middle or from Center to LT for a team that wants to run the ball? Not to mention that the Eagles and Giants have 2 of the best DTs and who both happen to have elite strength speed combos if he starts at OG. Then Williams would change our entire defensive makeup as a dominant 1 tech who is both stout and disruptive. Start him on early downs alongside a rotation of Osa and Mazi and then some snaps on later downs to get a little bull rush once in a while with Osa and a rotation of a bunch of guys. More players and better players at DT in a rotation to keep guys fresh and performing will go a long way and especially when you have Micah coming from the outside and the speed that we do at LBer, but without the strength to consistently hold up against and shed OL at the 2nd level.

You and I diaagree on some things, but not how to draft. If you are drafting and your best available player is a 1st round grade and say your #8 overall player and a LB but your #9 player is also on the board and has the same grade and is a nose tackle, then yeah, need can be the tie breaker. But you CAN NOT go into the draft with those two on the board and say, well, our biggest need is RB, and since Jeanty is gone, we are going to take our 21st rated player Hampton because we need a RB. That's how you bust

 

[UK Cowboy]

I totally agree. I see them with a short list of players that they think are worthy at being picked at 12. If all those players are gone then they are going to be on the phone frantically trying to call teams.

I think they want to draft a wideout in round one. That not what I would do. Jerry loves his toys.

The problem with being a Cowboys fan, is that any move you make is after another round of shitty moves by the Jones Boys. Take Dak...when I said 5 years ago and again last year that I wouldn't pay Dak, I got bashed on here and told we HAD to, and did I want Cooper Rush as our QB? And of course they are right. But I can also bring up posts from 5 years ago saying I would take Jordan Love in roind one and i posted last year I would try and move up for Bo Nix. The problem is, the Cowboys paint themselves into a corner of self inflicted stupidity. So when we draft and the best player on my board is like #5 overall to me and I think he will be somewhere between Gronk and Kelce during his career, im taking him. But on the flip side, I wouldn't have a gaping hole at nickle because I would have paid Jourdan Lewis, I would have signed a legitimate starting RG, and I sure as Hell wouldn't have traded a 4th for Mingo. So yeah, TE may not be a need, but I'll draft studs and tell Jerry to go do his damn job

 

[jarntt]

The problem with being a Cowboys fan, is that any move you make is after another round of shitty moves by the Jones Boys. Take Dak...when I said 5 years ago and again last year that I wouldn't pay Dak, I got bashed on here and told we HAD to, and did I want Cooper Rush as our QB? And of course they are right. But I can also bring up posts from 5 years ago saying I would take Jordan Love in roind one and i posted last year I would try and move up for Bo Nix. The problem is, the Cowboys paint themselves into a corner of self inflicted stupidity. So when we draft and the best player on my board is like #5 overall to me and I think he will be somewhere between Gronk and Kelce during his career, im taking him. But on the flip side, I wouldn't have a gaping hole at nickle because I would have paid Jourdan Lewis, I would have signed a legitimate starting RG, and I sure as Hell wouldn't have traded a 4th for Mingo. So yeah, TE may not be a need, but I'll draft studs and tell Jerry to go do his damn job

I've said over and over and over. Every player has a value and you don't go over that value or at least not significantly over. There is ALWAYS another player out there to replace your players that you let go other than your elite HOFers like Micah and maybe CeeDee. Dak isn't a top 10 QB and by the end of this 4 year contract which starts this September when he will be 32 and coming off another major injury, I'm not sure if he will be top 20. The idea that the Cowboys needed to pay Dak because they had no one else was never a valid argument for the first contract and absolutely was not a valid argument for this second contract. They would have had $400M in cap space between the two contracts to figure it out and it is not like the old days when QBs don't switch teams. There are always stop gaps available. People who are afraid don't win Super Bowls. The Cowboys brain trust is afraid. They are afraid to have a down year and they had one any way. They are afraid to pay free agents. They are afraid to let their stars go and yet also afraid to sign them. So they do the worst of things which is eventually sign them for the most amount of money possible.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I've said over and over and over. Every player has a value and you don't go over that value or at least not significantly over. There is ALWAYS another player out there to replace your players that you let go other than your elite HOFers like Micah and maybe CeeDee. Dak isn't a top 10 QB and by the end of this 4 year contract which starts this September when he will be 32 and coming off another major injury, I'm not sure if he will be top 20. The idea that the Cowboys needed to pay Dak because they had no one else was never a valid argument for the first contract and absolutely was not a valid argument for this second contract. They would have had $400M in cap space between the two contracts to figure it out and it is not like the old days when QBs don't switch teams. There are always stop gaps available. People who are afraid don't win Super Bowls. The Cowboys brain trust is afraid. They are afraid to have a down year and they had one any way. They are afraid to pay free agents. They are afraid to let their stars go and yet also afraid to sign them. So they do the worst of things which is eventually sign them for the most amount of money possible.

Absolutely. Take last season. Some people will say " You didn't know Dak would get hurt". But we were already getting our ass kicked when he was healthy. And it's not the first time. So IF, they had not paid Dak and let him walk, and IF they hadn't thrown away a 4th, they could have easily flipped that 4th for Kirk Cousins or signed Russell Wilson. They could have then drafted Jaxson Dart with #12 and used $60 Million per year in cap space to sign anyone they wanted each year. You can't convince me we wouldn't be far better off

 

[PDay8810]

Dak isn't a top 10 QB?

Burrow
Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

AGREED..6 to go.

After one year in the league are we certain Daniels is ahead of Dak? I can't after one year, but lets put Daniels as better already. Hurts too cause he won the last SB. That's 6 with 4 to go.

Goff, Stroud, Herbert?
BOY....I could debate each but lets add all three for shits and grins.
This makes 9 (some debatable)

Mayfield?
Darnald?
Geno?
Cousins?
Tua?
Purdy?
Carr?
Stafford?
Murray?
Lawarence?
Rodgers?
Young?
Nix?
Williams?
Richardson?
Pennix?
Wilson?

Dak not top 10?

shoot, Dak may be closer to 5 than 15, much less 20.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Dak isn't a top 10 QB?

Burrow
Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

AGREED..6 to go.

After one year in the league are we certain Daniels is ahead of Dak? I can't after one year, but lets put Daniels as better already. Hurts too cause he won the last SB. That's 6 with 4 to go.

Goff, Stroud, Herbert?
BOY....I could debate each but lets add all three for shits and grins.
This makes 9 (some debatable)

Mayfield?
Darnald?
Geno?
Cousins?
Tua?
Purdy?
Carr?
Stafford?
Murray?
Lawarence?
Rodgers?
Young?
Nix?
Williams?
Richardson?
Pennix?
Wilson?

Dak not top 10?

shoot, Dak may be closer to 5 than 15, much less 20.

I think somewhere between 10-12 is fair on Dak. The problem is, when you factor in his age and $60M contract, he might be bottom 5 in bang for your buck

 

[PDay8810]

I think somewhere between 10-12 is fair on Dak. The problem is, when you factor in his age and $60M contract, he might be bottom 5 in bang for your buck

opinions vary in an open forum. The topic was ability, not money banked, least this is what I'm commenting about.

 

[jarntt]

Dak isn't a top 10 QB?

Burrow
Mahomes
Allen
Jackson

AGREED..6 to go.

After one year in the league are we certain Daniels is ahead of Dak? I can't after one year, but lets put Daniels as better already. Hurts too cause he won the last SB. That's 6 with 4 to go.

Goff, Stroud, Herbert?
BOY....I could debate each but lets add all three for shits and grins.
This makes 9 (some debatable)

Mayfield?
Darnald?
Geno?
Cousins?
Tua?
Purdy?
Carr?
Stafford?
Murray?
Lawarence?
Rodgers?
Young?
Nix?
Williams?
Richardson?
Pennix?
Wilson?

Dak not top 10?

shoot, Dak may be closer to 5 than 15, much less 20.

The fact that you think Herbert is a question pretty much says it all. I'll use your list. Purdy, Stafford are better than him on mine. You are free to disagree. Plus all of the young kids remain to be seen and I suspect at least one is considered better as the 2025 season unfolds which is where we are now. 2024 Dallas Cowboys with Dak starting 3-5 (11 TDs 8 Int). 2024 Dallas Cowboys with Rush starting 4-4 and Cooper Rush stinks. $60M per year and it didn't even start yet. In a cap world money always matters. I won't get into playoff performance, but to me it is what matters most. He is another year older and coming off another season ending injury. He is another year less mobile in the pocket. Jerry loves you.

Games played since 2019:
2020 5
2021 16
2022 12
2023 17
2024 8

 

[UK Cowboy]

opinions vary in an open forum. The topic was ability, not money banked, least this is what I'm commenting about.

Even if you take age and money out of it, I have him around 10th.
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Jackson
Herbert
Danieis
Hurts
Stroud
Love
Stafford
Goff has been to a Super Bowl and an NFCCG, same for Purdy and Purdy has kicked the shit out of Dak at every turn. At some point, playoff success matters. Cousins is about even. Kyler is better.
I'll give you Tua because of the concussions, but if healthy they are even but Tua is younger. I think everyone here including you would trade Dak straight up for Caleb Williams or Drake Maye.
Michael Penix or Bo Nix...If we could cut Dak and be rid of that $240M contract and have Penix or Nix and their contract, I would in a blink. I just dont see how we can get Dak to top 5 even woth the bluest tinted glasses

 

[jarntt]

Regardless, the point isn't whether he is top 9 or 11 or 14. Picking that out of my post as if it was the point is just ignoring the actual point being made. So, I'll take that as no one is disagreeing with the point that I was making. I could care less if someone wants to rank Dak as #3 overall or #25 and I can make a case for both. We are all entitled to our opinions and opinions can't be wrong or right they can only be agreed with or disagreed with. History has thus far proven this one incorrect. Maybe it's the next 4 years when we win a SB...

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think a players contract has to be factored when ranking QB's, because if one guy makes $60M and another makes $30M, it's the $30M QB plus all the players you can afford with the savings.
Simple example....If I'm really, really hungry, and a McDonalds Cheeseburger and a Bacon Cheeseburger from Whataburger cost the exact same, im taking the Whataburger every time. But if money is involved, for the cost of the Whataburger, I could get that McDonalds Cheeseburger plus a large fries, a 10 piece nuggets and a large drink

 

[UK Cowboy]

If we are going to tilt towards need at 12, the guy I would love to have is Kenneth Grant, NT, Michigan. Mason Graham gets more hype, as an explosive 3T, but what we need is a monster on the nose, and that's this guy.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

If we are going to tilt towards need at 12, the guy I would love to have is Kenneth Grant, NT, Michigan. Mason Graham gets more hype, as an explosive 3T, but what we need is a monster on the nose, and that's this guy.

They likely have to draft for need. They got needs and NT is a major one.

I guess I am not as high on Graham as some. I think he will be good,but I don't know that he will be great.

Mazi struggled nearly every game at stopping the run. Grant would be an upgrade

 

[UK Cowboy]

They likely have to draft for need. They got needs and NT is a major one.

I guess I am not as high on Graham as some. I think he will be good,but I don't know that he will be great.

Mazi struggled nearly every game at stopping the run. Grant would be an upgrade

He is a load, 340 and can move. Not just a run stuffer, though he is certainly that. Now question he would be a big add

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I wonder who they want to see here? Egbuka, Simmons Williams,Henderson Judkins come to mind

Dallas Cowboys' Brian Schottenheimer, Matt Eberflus attend high-profile Pro Day

Brian Schottenheimer got an up-close look at some of the top prospects in the NFL Draft class by showing up in person for the Ohio State Buckeyes Pro Day.

www.si.com

 

[UK Cowboy]

I wonder who they want to see here? Egbuka, Simmons Williams,Henderson Judkins come to mind

Dallas Cowboys' Brian Schottenheimer, Matt Eberflus attend high-profile Pro Day

Brian Schottenheimer got an up-close look at some of the top prospects in the NFL Draft class by showing up in person for the Ohio State Buckeyes Pro Day.

www.si.com

Those are all good kids. Would love to have Simmons, I like Williams nearly as much as Grant, but the guy I think is a sleeper is Henderson. That kid is awesome. I think he will be like the Gibbs kid from the Lions