2025 Cowboy Draft

[jarntt]

I wouldn't like this draft at all. I wouldn't take Hampton at 12 because I think there are going to be better players on the board at other positions at 12, but I wouldn't hate him there either because I'm not convinced that Jeanty will be better than him, but the rest of it...no thanks

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[scotsman#1948]

I wouldn't like this draft at all. I wouldn't take Hampton at 12 because I think there are going to be better players on the board at other positions at 12, but I wouldn't hate him there either because I'm not convinced that Jeanty will be better than him, but the rest of it...no thanks

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i hate to say it but needs sometimes override who's better.

Cowboys needs: backup QB. Workhorse RB, #2 WR, Depth at DT, Depth at RB, WR, CB, Edge

 

[jarntt]

i hate to say it but needs sometimes override who's better.

Cowboys needs: backup QB. Workhorse RB, #2 WR, Depth at DT, Depth at RB, WR, CB, Edge

Backup QB is kind of far down on my list. I'm only interested in one before day 3 IF the team is seriously considering cutting Dak before his contract is up if we luck out on the right guy and I just can't see Jerry doing that. So would I draft a QB? Absolutely. Do I want them to knowing how I think they will run the team? No, not really.

Biggest needs if this team is serious about getting better. Not in order:
1) Starting RB, #2WR, one Starting OL (Tyler's position flex makes this any position), starting DT, Edge, starting LBer, Starting safety(s)
2) Better Depth throughout the DL, #3WR, #3CB (starter if/when Diggs is a cut candidate), QB, LBer depth, Another OL starter/depth guy, TE

In other words...everything. Bad news is our top end talent on our roster stinks. The good news is we can pretty much take any position and the player can help us right away. It's both a blessing and a curse. I think if we accept we aren't turning this thing around in one year and that it is a multi-year thing and we just let the scouts and the coaches do their thing, we can eventually get it going in the right direction. If we try to force it. We will crash and burn like always. Just take the potential superstar player in the draft and don't worry about position because we aren't going anywhere this year anyway. Best case scenario is our typical bounced in the first or second round and what good does that do? The goal should be Super Bowls, not good regular seasons. That's the difference between vision and just trying to be relevant.

 

[UK Cowboy]

i hate to say it but needs sometimes override who's better.

Cowboys needs: backup QB. Workhorse RB, #2 WR, Depth at DT, Depth at RB, WR, CB, Edge

So, hypothetical...it's the 2017 draft again, but say we are picking 10th....Will McClay tells you Patrick Mahomes is far and away the best player on our board. Jerry and Stephen tell will they NEED a DE. Will says the best edge rusher is TJ Watt....The Jones boys say our NEED is a traditional DE. Hello Taco Charlton.
If your needs are going to override the best player available in a draft that you have no control over who will be on your board, then go out and spend some damn money in free agency on that need

 

[UK Cowboy]

I wouldn't like this draft at all. I wouldn't take Hampton at 12 because I think there are going to be better players on the board at other positions at 12, but I wouldn't hate him there either because I'm not convinced that Jeanty will be better than him, but the rest of it...no thanks

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If they feel like Hampton is the best player on the board, I could live with it because we could certainly use the upgrade. If their best player is actually OT Josh Simmons, and they take the RB simply because they took Guyton last year, then that's bullshit

 

[PDay8810]

If their best player is actually OT Josh Simmons, and they take the RB simply because they took Guyton last year, then that's bullshit

this is why I like a trade back.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Interestingly on Hampton, Kiper has taken him twice for Dallas in mocks, and while typically I would pay as much attention to Kiper as I would a monkey throwing darts, Kiper did mock Tyler Smith to Dallas 3 times when most folks weren't even looking at him. He might have a little birdy in the building

 

[scotsman#1948]

So, hypothetical...it's the 2017 draft again, but say we are picking 10th....Will McClay tells you Patrick Mahomes is far and away the best player on our board. Jerry and Stephen tell will they NEED a DE. Will says the best edge rusher is TJ Watt....The Jones boys say our NEED is a traditional DE. Hello Taco Charlton.
If your needs are going to override the best player available in a draft that you have no control over who will be on your board, then go out and spend some damn money in free agency on that need

so we could go with the best available at 12, 44 and 76 and we end up with 3 DE or 3 DT or 3 WR, etc because they the best available

 

[UK Cowboy]

so we could go with the best available at 12, 44 and 76 and we end up with 3 DE or 3 DT or 3 WR, etc because they the best available

Ive said many times the exception was doubling up. You can argue drafting for need all you want and I'll simply say Taco, Mazi, Guyton

 

[Schmoopy1000]

i think Houston could be looking to trade up so trading down with them could bring us #25, #58 and #89 our #12. if that happened i would consider:

25. Emeka Egbuka WR Ohio State we have CeeDee Lamb as our #1 receiver with no #2
44. TreVeyon Henderson RB Ohio State. we have Javonte Williams and ?
58. Darien Porter CB Iowa State. we have Bland and Diggs but Diggs can't stay on the field
76. Tyler Shough QB Louisville, we have Prescott
89. best available player appears to Savion Williams WR TCU

but where is the DT?

everyone says draft is deep in DT, but we get none?

 

[UK Cowboy]

but where is the DT?

everyone says draft is deep in DT, but we get none?

I would rather take two than none. There are some guys that would really help us

 

[PDay8810]

but where is the DT?

everyone says draft is deep in DT, but we get none?

hang in there...they will get a fatty.
The kid from Auburn already on the team hasn't been defined either.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I wouldn't like this draft at all. I wouldn't take Hampton at 12 because I think there are going to be better players on the board at other positions at 12, but I wouldn't hate him there either because I'm not convinced that Jeanty will be better than him, but the rest of it...no thanks

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This draft could prompt me to get pissed off. Too high for Hampton. I would rather draft Jadeh Barron instead of Hampton at 12. he is rising and he would be a playmaker. He has the dawg mentality and enough speed. I just have Barron as the type of CB I like. He is a great slot CB . But even Barron not my first choice at 12. But I see the fit. I think he would play the slot and be great there. I not sure why but I like Barron more than Johnson.

I do like Tuten and would love him in round five. He has real speed and is a home run threat. He looks like gadget guy,but think he could be more than that. A lot of the media is underating Tuten IMO. I personally would not waste a pick on a QB. Just bring in a UDFA qb. This mock is not good overall. Now if they trade down some and then draft Hampton? Still this mock is terrible.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

If they feel like Hampton is the best player on the board, I could live with it because we could certainly use the upgrade. If their best player is actually OT Josh Simmons, and they take the RB simply because they took Guyton last year, then that's bullshit

I like Simmons. I have my doubts they draft him because of Guyton. Simmons is going to be better at LT than Guyton. Significantly better. Drafting Simmons could allow them to send Steele packing and possibly get Cap relief. Steeles production did not match all that money he gets . Guyton could then be moved to RT.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

hang in there...they will get a fatty.
The kid from Auburn already on the team hasn't been defined either.

not according to @scotsman#1948
Her is scaring me!

 

[UK Cowboy]

I like Simmons. I have my doubts they draft him because of Guyton. Simmons is going to be better at LT than Guyton. Significantly better. Drafting Simmons could allow them to send Steele packing and possibly get Cap relief. Steeles production did not match all that money he gets . Guyton could then be moved to RT.

Nice thing about Simmons, like Banks, he could start out at RG IF Guyton tales the 2nd year peanut butter jump

 

[PDay8810]

a couple pretty darn good early day 3 DT's graded down for not having ideal height. Both Big 10 nose guards.

CJ West / Indiana 6'2 320 has a plus burst and strong against double teams.
or
Jamaree Caldwell / Oregon 6'2 325. also quick off the snap with good size who also does well against double teams.

it could come to this kinda DT.

I think as long as the guy drafted holds ground in double team situations and quick through a gap to stop some runs on the other side of the ball works well for the coahes vision. Mazi is part of the vision this year. Fish or cut bait season for M. Smith this year. Maybe Justin Rodgers has benefitted from 12 months of pro football and ready to challenge. It is a role that should be somewhat easy to fill the role through camp battles. Draft a 5th or 6th round guy that fits this staffs vision for the position. It is an old coaches saying, but competition is a good thing. Solomon Thomas has his role.

As with all teams in this league, injuries have a HUGE impact and Dallas is due for less work arounds than last year.

LOL.

 

[jarntt]

I like Simmons. I have my doubts they draft him because of Guyton. Simmons is going to be better at LT than Guyton. Significantly better. Drafting Simmons could allow them to send Steele packing and possibly get Cap relief. Steeles production did not match all that money he gets . Guyton could then be moved to RT.

Here is the difference between a team that wants to win and a team that is worried about how building their reputation because they are insecure about their ability to build a team as can be seen in the fact that they keep having to tell everyone they are the best ones for the job even after 30 years of failure.

The 49ers made a massive trade for Lance which at the time tied their future to him, but moved on and took a huge loss and didn't care when they knew it wasn't going to work and the last pick of the draft proved better than him. I haven't made up my mind on Guyton yet, but Schottenheimer is a professional coach who grew up around football and saw him in practice every single day. His new OC and OL coach can go watch every snap he took in the preseason and the regular season a hundred times if they have to. Do the same with the RT you gave a huge deal to. Do you see those guys as at least having the potential to be your bookends for the next 5 years or no? If they don't know the answer they probably shouldn't have the jobs. If the answer is no, then don't build your team like you have with other guys over the past decade like Trysten Hill and Mazi. Don't make mistakes of the past mistakes of the future.

That absolutely doesn't mean a guy who played like crap in the past will fail going forward or that he won't blossom into a star at some point. It means don't be an idiot and ASSUME it will happen and don't build your team as if it will happen. Likewise, you don't have to cut a guy because he may not be a stud, but don't put him down as a starter in ink either when his tape shows he has been horrible. Draft or sign a replacement and if a guy like Mazi or Guyton blossoms it is still a fantastic thing. Having too many good players is NEVER a bad thing. Running out even one horrible starter can ruin a season - the weakest link theory and we all know that football highlights the weakest link more than any other sport. All that being said, I'm not saying the book is out on Guyton (or Mazi or Steele or Tolbert or anyone else) in my eyes, I've said all along Guyton needs a couple of years and that he shouldn't even have played year 1. But, what I am saying is the HC should know if Guyton has the potential or not and the GM needs to listen to the HC and not his gut or his hope or his desire to not admit a mistake and the HC needs to have the balls to tell the owner that the player was a mistake if that is what he thinks.

That's a long winded way of me saying absolutely draft Simmons (or whatever OL that is there and you want) if you think he is worth it. It's pretty much a guarantee we will need a starting OL and Tyler's flex (although I prefer him at LG) allows us to draft pretty much any position on the OL. Even if Guyton blossoms and Steele two years past injury bounces back to where he was the year before he got his contract, we will figure it out. One of them can play RG. All 3 have them have actually played on the right side more than the left side in their career. The ideal situation would be Guyton becomes the stud OT they thought he would grow into and the draft pick also becomes one and they cut Steele (or trade) and use his cap savings elsewhere

 

[jarntt]

it could come to this kinda DT.

I think as long as the guy drafted holds ground in double team situations and quick through a gap to stop some runs on the other side of the ball works well for the coahes vision. Mazi is part of the vision this year. Fish or cut bait season for M. Smith this year. Maybe Justin Rodgers has benefitted from 12 months of pro football and ready to challenge. It is a role that should be somewhat easy to fill the role through camp battles. Draft a 5th or 6th round guy that fits this staffs vision for the position. It is an old coaches saying, but competition is a good thing. Solomon Thomas has his role.

As with all teams in this league, injuries have a HUGE impact and Dallas is due for less work arounds than last year.

LOL.

I was a huge Rodgers fan last year and was pissed when they cut him on cut down day. Everything out of camp said he had the potential to be a good run stopping NT and that taking into account his inexperience that he probably filled the role best in training camp (with little to no pass rush ability I guess). I can only assume they thought they could stash him on the PS. Luckily he never was put on the Bengals 53 and they were able to get him back. If they don't come out of this draft with a stud DT I could see him playing a lot on run downs next to Mazi with Osa and Thomas playing a lot on passing downs.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Here is the difference between a team that wants to win and a team that is worried about how building their reputation because they are insecure about their ability to build a team as can be seen in the fact that they keep having to tell everyone they are the best ones for the job even after 30 years of failure.

The 49ers made a massive trade for Lance which at the time tied their future to him, but moved on and took a huge loss and didn't care when they knew it wasn't going to work and the last pick of the draft proved better than him. I haven't made up my mind on Guyton yet, but Schottenheimer is a professional coach who grew up around football and saw him in practice every single day. His new OC and OL coach can go watch every snap he took in the preseason and the regular season a hundred times if they have to. Do the same with the RT you gave a huge deal to. Do you see those guys as at least having the potential to be your bookends for the next 5 years or no? If they don't know the answer they probably shouldn't have the jobs. If the answer is no, then don't build your team like you have with other guys over the past decade like Trysten Hill and Mazi. Don't make mistakes of the past mistakes of the future.

That absolutely doesn't mean a guy who played like crap in the past will fail going forward or that he won't blossom into a star at some point. It means don't be an idiot and ASSUME it will happen and don't build your team as if it will happen. Likewise, you don't have to cut a guy because he may not be a stud, but don't put him down as a starter in ink either when his tape shows he has been horrible. Draft or sign a replacement and if a guy like Mazi or Guyton blossoms it is still a fantastic thing. Having too many good players is NEVER a bad thing. Running out even one horrible starter can ruin a season - the weakest link theory and we all know that football highlights the weakest link more than any other sport. All that being said, I'm not saying the book is out on Guyton (or Mazi or Steele or Tolbert or anyone else) in my eyes, I've said all along Guyton needs a couple of years and that he shouldn't even have played year 1. But, what I am saying is the HC should know if Guyton has the potential or not and the GM needs to listen to the HC and not his gut or his hope or his desire to not admit a mistake and the HC needs to have the balls to tell the owner that the player was a mistake if that is what he thinks.

That's a long winded way of me saying absolutely draft Simmons (or whatever OL that is there and you want) if you think he is worth it. It's pretty much a guarantee we will need a starting OL and Tyler's flex (although I prefer him at LG) allows us to draft pretty much any position on the OL. Even if Guyton blossoms and Steele two years past injury bounces back to where he was the year before he got his contract, we will figure it out. One of them can play RG. All 3 have them have actually played on the right side more than the left side in their career. The ideal situation would be Guyton becomes the stud OT they thought he would grow into and the draft pick also becomes one and they cut Steele (or trade) and use his cap savings elsewhere

You're hired, because this is exactly right. If the light goes on for Mazi or Guyton, fantastic! But you can't not draft over guys because they MIGHT play well next season. This is one thing I admire about two teams I hate, the Niners as you pointed out, and the Eagles. 2020, the Eagles top pick was WR Jalen Reagor. They didn't give him 3 years. He was a bust, so the very next year they took WR Devonta Smith in round 1, then they traded for AJ Brown. In 2021 they took Milton Williams in round 3 and the next year Jordan Davis in round 1. So in 22, did they say, "Well, this Jalen Carter character is our best player available, but we just drafted two good DT's, so let's draft something else". Fuck no lol. Let's take this damn monster and win a Super Bowl. They take the best talent in the draft and they trade for what they NEED(AJ Brown) or sign what they NEED in FA(Saquan Barkley). Thats why they are where they are and we are whre we are