2024 Begins Today

[YankeeRebel]

From different people it's being said that the Patriots interviewed 21 different people for the OC position. More than half supposedly said that they didn't think that they could rebuild such a mess in less than five years. Pretty much says that they didn't want to attempt that kind of challenge.
Others said that they could do it but had to have significant input into the next two/three drafts. Others just didn't fit. Like it or not, the young up and comers don't have much self-confidence or balls big enough to take on responsibility of a really tough job.

I'll accept a guy who's willing to stick his head in a noose like Foxboro.

This seems silly to I will attempt to out line my thought here.

1. Drafted O line the last two year, they should begin to meld. Would a LT be a nice pick up? Sure and may be the one piece on the line we really need.

2. Lot's of cap space I have said this multiple times. Get Evans and Ridley then draft WR talent after round 4.

3. Secure at least Duggar, Henry and if possible Onwenu.

Draft;

1. QB

2 LT

3 Edge / CB

4 TE / RB

4, CB / Edge or WR

 

[BigKen]

Draft;

1. QB Daniels, Nix, McCarthy

2 LT Jordan Morgan ARZ, Amarius Mims GEO

3 Edge / CB Robinson E Penn St, TJ Tampa Iowa CB St

4 TE / RB Jared Wiley TE TCU

4, CB / Edge or WR Ladd McConkey WR GEO

Get any of these guys and I would be ecstatic.

 

[Southieinnc]

Back to the OC , lot of negativity here. Things will be different - maybe very different!

Patriots 2024 Opponents Set

www.patriots.com

Looking forward to the 2024 Patriots' opponents

Home Games

• Buffalo Bills
• Miami Dolphins
• New York Jets
• Houston Texans
• Indianapolis Colts
• Los Angeles Rams
• Seattle Seahawks
• Los Angeles Chargers

Away Games yo

• Buffalo Bills
• Miami Dolphins
• New York Jets
• Arizona Cardinals
• Jacksonville Jaguars
• San Francisco 49ers
• Tennessee Titans
• Cincinnati Bengals
• Chicago Bears

sweep!

 

[YankeeRebel]

Draft;

1. QB Daniels, Nix, McCarthy

2 LT Jordan Morgan ARZ, Amarius Mims GEO

3 Edge / CB Robinson E Penn St, TJ Tampa Iowa St

4 TE / RB Jared Wiley TE TCU

4, CB / Edge or WR Ladd McConkey WR GEO

Get any of these guys and I would be ecstatic.

And that is very doable

 

[BigKen]

And that is very doable

I think McConkey is the next Edelman

 

[cheerupcharlie]

That’s pretty sad if we did interview 20+ people for the OC position. Great…. Someone desperate enough took it. Say what you want about him… he was fired 3 times and not resigned for another.. 4 teams have given up on him. Guess I’m not too impressed with that. But what’s done is done and I hope nothing but the best for our team.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I’m guessing the Boston area must have good restaurants and that played into his decision. What a tubby tuba.

 

[YankeeRebel]

That’s pretty sad if we did interview 20+ people for the OC position. Great…. Someone desperate enough took it. Say what you want about him… he was fired 3 times and not resigned for another.. 4 teams have given up on him. Guess I’m not too impressed with that. But what’s done is done and I hope nothing but the best for our team.

This assumes

1. That 19 people were offered the job and turned it down

2. Mayo was not doing his homework and just signed someone.

Time will tell, I think it's a decent signing, good or great only time will tell

 

[BigKen]

It may be that of the 21 people interviewed, half of them were not ready to be an OC at any level. My guess is that Mayo has been around McDaniels, Patricia and O'Brien and knows what he likes and doesn't like about all of them and used that experience to eliminate a lot of the candidates. No doubt that a few, very few actually turned down a second interview because they "fear" failure. The Patriots OC job isn't a cakewalk, and my guess is that guys like Zac Robinson could see that the Patriots' offense is going to be a ball buster and would much rather get a job where most of the pieces are already in place.

Think about it.

No QBs
No TEs
No OTs

And you have to implement a completely new offense. So what do you do if you're a RB, TE or QB coach and don't have a playbook in your pocket??

One thing we know. Van Pelt uses an older West Coast Offense, designed similar to the Shanahan Offense. Here's the problems:

1. Don't have the WRs fast enough to spread the defense
2. Don't have a QB that can immediately move out of the pocket to give the WRs and extra second or two
3. Don't have the blocking TEs to help tie up the Edge rushers
4. Don't know what they have for an every down RB.

More than likely Van Pelt will be able to get most of his staff from Cleveland and that help solve some of the problems. How much input will he have about signing free agents and choosing potential starters from the draft?? At least Van Pelt has experience and connections to at least get started.

 

[BigKen]

Get ready to be pissed off...........................

Andy Reid is the best coach ever in the NFL.

 

[BigKen]

Reid has won 3 Super Bowls in the past 5 years.

He’s done it by doing something that Bill Belichick was too

Stupid to do. He’s built the offense around Patrick Mahomes.

BB continuously padded the defense and never built the offense

to be anything because he had Brady and his ability to make average

players much better.



Reid has pieced together a defense with the help Spagnulo and it’s

become formidable. All things considered, the Chiefs will win three

more Supe Bowls in the next five years and Belichick and Brady will

be forgotten.

That’s right. Six Super Bowls in ten years and Mahomes will be the GOAT.

​

As much as it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, Mahomes is showing that

he is more driven to win than anyone in NFL history.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Get ready to be pissed off...........................

Andy Reid is the best coach ever in the NFL.

Doesn't piss me off, and it won't when they start calling the Chiefs a dynasty either.

 

[molsaniceman]

Doesn't piss me off, and it won't when they start calling the Chiefs a dynasty either.

SB was a lose/lose for pats fans
KC won so another dynasty is born
If SF won would have tied pats/steelers with 6 SB wins

 

[YankeeRebel]

SB was a lose/lose for pats fans
KC won so another dynasty is born
If SF won would have tied pats/steelers with 6 SB wins

I guess, I know that kind of stuff means a lot to some people, and it's cool to have bragging rights, but mostly I am happy our season has now officially ended.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Reid has won 3 Super Bowls in the past 5 years.

He’s done it by doing something that Bill Belichick was too

Stupid to do. He’s built the offense around Patrick Mahomes.

BB continuously padded the defense and never built the offense

to be anything because he had Brady and his ability to make average

players much better.



Reid has pieced together a defense with the help Spagnulo and it’s

become formidable. All things considered, the Chiefs will win three

more Supe Bowls in the next five years and Belichick and Brady will

be forgotten.

That’s right. Six Super Bowls in ten years and Mahomes will be the GOAT.

​

As much as it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, Mahomes is showing that

he is more driven to win than anyone in NFL history.

And after Reid there will be another "Best Ever" and after Mahommes there will be another "Best Ever.

And that "Best Ever"...Will he have Spagnolia too? Or will he do it all on his own?

Will the other "Best Ever" have a Pacheco, Kelce. Tyreek? Or will he do it all on his own?

Just curious...

Oh, and how come best ever didn't win anything in Philly? Is it all Reid or is it Mahommes?

 

[nefansince75]

And after Reid there will be another "Best Ever" and after Mahommes there will be another "Best Ever.

Oh, and how come best ever didn't win anything in Philly? Is it all Reid or is it Mahommes?

You'll have to consult with @sonnyblack65 on that one

 

[BigKen]

A lengthy but well written article from PatsPulpit 5/12/24.

Sunday Patriots Notes: Offseason moves were all about ‘establishing a core’

Notes and thoughts on the Patriots and the NFL on May 12.

www.patspulpit.com

 

[BigKen]

New England Patriots Transactions Through May 19, 2024​

May

DATE	TRANSACTION
May 16, 2024	Agreed to terms with C David Andrews on a two-year contract extension.
May 13, 2024	Signed LB Jay Person, RB Terrell Jennings, OL Ryan Johnson and DL Jotham Russell to contracts. Released RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn.
May 11, 2024	Named Eliot Wolf executive vice president of player personnel.
May 6, 2024	Released QB Nathan Rourke.
May 2, 2024	Signed K Joey Slye.

April

DATE	TRANSACTION
April 30, 2024	Signed OLB Oshane Ximines.
April 29, 2024	Agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension with DL Christian Barmore.
April 22, 2024	Signed TE Mitchell Wilcox.
April 18, 2024	Agreed to terms with OT Calvin Anderson on a renegotiated contract.
April 9, 2024	Re-signed S Kyle Dugger to a contract extension.

March

DATE	TRANSACTION
March 21, 2024	Re-signed WR Kendrick Bourne. Signed S Jaylinn Hawkins.
March 19, 2024	Signed WR K.J. Osborn to a contract.
March 15, 2024	Re-signed DL Armon Watts, LB Anfernee Jennings, and OL Nick Leverett. Signed QB Jacoby Brissett.
March 14, 2024	Released LB Chris Board and WR DeVante Paker. Trade QB Mac Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars in exchange for a 2024 draft choice. Signed LB Sione Takitaki, OL Mike Onwenu, RB Antonio Gibson, and TE Austin Hooper to undisclosed contract.
March 12, 2024	Re-signed EDGE Josh Uche to a one-year contract. Re-signed ERFAs LB Christian Ellis, OL Tyrone Wheatley, and QB Nathan Rourke.
March 11, 2024	Signed T Chukwuma Okorafor.
March 9, 2024	Announce the retirement of former CB Malcolm Butler.
March 8, 2024	Re-signed TE Hunter Henry to a three-year contract. Signed OT Tyrone Wheatley Jr. to a one-year exclusive rights tender.
March 7, 2024	Re-signed CB Alex Austin.
March 5, 2024	Placed S Kyle Dugger under a non-exclusive franchise tag.
March 1, 2024	Released CB J.C. Jackson.

February

DATE	TRANSACTION
February 20, 2024	Announced the retirement of ST Matthew Slater. Released DT Lawrence Guy Sr. and S Adrian Phillips.
February 6, 2024	Signed WR Kawaan Baker to a futures contract for 2024.

January

DATE	TRANSACTION
January 24, 2024	Signed G Michael Jordan to a futures contract for 2024.
January 17, 2024	Named Jerod Mayo head coach.
January 12, 2024	Named Jerod Mayo as head coach.
January 11, 2024	Released head coach Bill Belichick.
January 8, 2024	Signed DE William Bradley-King, LB Joe Giles-Harris, DB Azizi Hearn, DT Tysten Hill, WR T.J. Luther, OT Andrew Stueber and RB Ke'Shawn Vauhn to futures contracts for 2024.
January 6, 2024	Signed TE La'Michael Pettway to the active roster. Placed TE Hunter Henry on injured reserve. Promoted TE Matt Sokol and OL Andrew Stueber to the active roster from the practice squad.

 

[Southieinnc]

New England Patriots Transactions Through May 19, 2024​

May

DATE	TRANSACTION
May 16, 2024	Agreed to terms with C David Andrews on a two-year contract extension.
May 13, 2024	Signed LB Jay Person, RB Terrell Jennings, OL Ryan Johnson and DL Jotham Russell to contracts. Released RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn.
May 11, 2024	Named Eliot Wolf executive vice president of player personnel.
May 6, 2024	Released QB Nathan Rourke.
May 2, 2024	Signed K Joey Slye.

April

DATE	TRANSACTION
April 30, 2024	Signed OLB Oshane Ximines.
April 29, 2024	Agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension with DL Christian Barmore.
April 22, 2024	Signed TE Mitchell Wilcox.
April 18, 2024	Agreed to terms with OT Calvin Anderson on a renegotiated contract.
April 9, 2024	Re-signed S Kyle Dugger to a contract extension.

March

DATE	TRANSACTION
March 21, 2024	Re-signed WR Kendrick Bourne. Signed S Jaylinn Hawkins.
March 19, 2024	Signed WR K.J. Osborn to a contract.
March 15, 2024	Re-signed DL Armon Watts, LB Anfernee Jennings, and OL Nick Leverett. Signed QB Jacoby Brissett.
March 14, 2024	Released LB Chris Board and WR DeVante Paker. Trade QB Mac Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars in exchange for a 2024 draft choice. Signed LB Sione Takitaki, OL Mike Onwenu, RB Antonio Gibson, and TE Austin Hooper to undisclosed contract.
March 12, 2024	Re-signed EDGE Josh Uche to a one-year contract. Re-signed ERFAs LB Christian Ellis, OL Tyrone Wheatley, and QB Nathan Rourke.
March 11, 2024	Signed T Chukwuma Okorafor.
March 9, 2024	Announce the retirement of former CB Malcolm Butler.
March 8, 2024	Re-signed TE Hunter Henry to a three-year contract. Signed OT Tyrone Wheatley Jr. to a one-year exclusive rights tender.
March 7, 2024	Re-signed CB Alex Austin.
March 5, 2024	Placed S Kyle Dugger under a non-exclusive franchise tag.
March 1, 2024	Released CB J.C. Jackson.

February

DATE	TRANSACTION
February 20, 2024	Announced the retirement of ST Matthew Slater. Released DT Lawrence Guy Sr. and S Adrian Phillips.
February 6, 2024	Signed WR Kawaan Baker to a futures contract for 2024.

January

DATE	TRANSACTION
January 24, 2024	Signed G Michael Jordan to a futures contract for 2024.
January 17, 2024	Named Jerod Mayo head coach.
January 12, 2024	Named Jerod Mayo as head coach.
January 11, 2024	Released head coach Bill Belichick.
January 8, 2024	Signed DE William Bradley-King, LB Joe Giles-Harris, DB Azizi Hearn, DT Tysten Hill, WR T.J. Luther, OT Andrew Stueber and RB Ke'Shawn Vauhn to futures contracts for 2024.
January 6, 2024	Signed TE La'Michael Pettway to the active roster. Placed TE Hunter Henry on injured reserve. Promoted TE Matt Sokol and OL Andrew Stueber to the active roster from the practice squad.

Looks an awful lot like rebuilding.
Also looks very careful.
I’m optimistic but we need more work…..

 

[cheerupcharlie]

Drake has some decent size to him. Still a baby. Might fill out some.