It makes me wonder why, when records are constantly being broken and training and diet methods are so much more advanced, why todays pitchers are so pussified
It's the opposite actually, today's pitchers are monsters compared to the old days. Back then a guy would maybe top out at 93-94 mph if they were big time fastball pitchers and they might have 2 other pitches, a curve and a change or whatever. Now guys do all sorts of crazy twists and strains on their arms with 2 seamers and 4 seamers and sliders and sweepers and slurves and all the rest, plus throwing 95 is no big deal anymore. Meanwhile the hitters are also much better, stronger, faster, better trained.
Just occurred to me...'being a pussy' surely derives from pussy-cat, which is probably also where that word for a vag comes from, so they are somewhat interchangeable. Well, 'pussy-llanimous' kind of works too, since it basically means 'being a pussy' too LOL
Nah, advances in skill and power should bring about durability and stamina not restrictions in the amount of pitches they can throw. 3rd time through the order is a real thing but what I see is managers counting pitches in making their decision to bring in another pitcher, not how many times he's been through the lineup
It pleases me that your disagreement confirms my correctness.
In yesteryear, SPs would not throw at 110% in the first couple innings. They were expected to eat innings, and they paced themselves accordingly. Today, SP are really just glorified RP, so they are expected to throw 110% every pitch.
Excellent post
That all makes sense but it does not account for the limited amount of pitches pitchers throw today and the amount of injuries they sustain and all the "tired arm" stuff we hear about today.
Did you even read my post? It DIRECTLY explains all that.
And did you read mine? Your post made some good points but did nothing to address the issue of tired arms and not being able to go deep into games. It only explains how the thinking in the game has changed not why pitchers are so weak and prone to injury now. Don't get so caught up in your argument that you don't address the topic.
Not gonna hold your hand through my post. If you can’t figure it out, that’s on you.
You missed the point. Tired arms and "hitting the wall" that we hear so much about have nothing to do with analytics and 3 times through the lineup
They do a little, you keep ignoring the parts about modern pitching vs old timey pitching and the major increase in strains on arms. Not to mention kids start pitching a lot of innings pretty young, we simply demand more of athletes that make it to the pros these days. Things are simply different and pitchers not going 7 innings is due to many factors.
Travel ball. The single biggest factor in arm injury. So many kids in HS getting TJ surgery it's not funny. We didn't have travel ball when I was a kid; we played basketball, football and soccer.
More evidence today as Skenes gets pulled in the 7th with a no hitter at 94 pitches. Absolutely inexplicable
Easily explained. Things are different now. He's not even close to the first pitcher pulled with a no hitter going, happens all the time in the modern era.
It’s too bad, his girlfriend would have stayed with him longer with a no hitter to his name.
Which is what makes it inexplicable. If the older guys could do it without all the advances in training and conditioning of today, these youngsters ought to be able to do it too.
