2023 offseason thread

[shopson67]

7 for 44

Harden had 32 points on 29 shots

Trevor ariza laying a major goose egg killed them

Blaming Ariza on a team with Harden and CP3 is like blaming last night's Giants loss on Matt Breida.

 

[shopson67]

He dropped 32 in game 7

The rest of the team bombed out

41% shooting, 2-13 from 3, -13 +/-

 

[DJ]

Blaming Ariza on a team with Harden and CP3 is like blaming last night's Giants loss on Matt Breida.

If I remember right he took a lot of treys though and was colder than ice.

 

[shopson67]

He also dropped 32 in game 6

41% shooting, 4-12 from 3, -19 +/-

 

[shopson67]

That’s #3/4 on a title team money

It's only 15-16% of the annual cap moving forward, not crazy money given where the cap is headed. Teams are smart to lock in the players they want to keep now before the cap expands significantly, lock in today's prices.

 

[shopson67]

If I remember right he took a lot of treys though and was colder than ice.

Is 0-9 from Ariza that much worse than 2-13 from Harden?

 

[shopson67]

Then why couldn’t he find a role with the Lakers if he can still ball? He’s not leading the league in assists now for any contender. He’s not averaging 21 a game for any contender. Right now Harden is way better than the corpse of Russell Westbrook.

10x the cost for Harden, he better be. Still can't build around him. If that's the qualifier necessary to feel about Harden, yikes.

 

[shopson67]

I hope Harden goes to the Clippers.

We Lakers fans have been trying to convert @Mecca for years...

that might finally do it. lol

I want him on the Heat. Jimmy might actually end him.

 

[shopson67]

41% which isn't horrible. Without looking at the box score, i think its safe to assume he almost never got to the line that game

6-8 FT

 

[The Q]

If I remember right he took a lot of treys though and was colder than ice.

0-9 I believe

 

[The Q]

6-8 FT

Exactly. People forget that harden gets to the line, a lot. That matters.

 

[shopson67]

Exactly. People forget that harden gets to the line, a lot. That matters.

Used to. His FTA were almost half of his career high per game last season.

 

[thunderc]

Yep...those were his numbers with the Clipps though.

So you mean those were his numbers when utilized properly?

 

[DJ]

Is 0-9 from Ariza that much worse than 2-13 from Harden?

Math is hard.

Yeah....0% is worse than 15.3%.

 

[msgkings322]

Exactly. People forget that harden gets to the line, a lot. That matters.

Once they cracked down on his foul hunting bullshit those numbers came way down. There's a reason no one wants this guy.

 

[DJ]

Once they cracked down on his foul hunting bullshit those numbers came way down. There's a reason no one wants this guy.

Yep.

And as bad as RW was with the Lakers he found another team pretty quickly.

 

[thunderc]

Once they cracked down on his foul hunting bullshit those numbers came way down. There's a reason no one wants this guy.

The thing that blows my mind the most about this guy is he doesn’t even try to hide what he is all about. Ever heard him say how badly he wants to win? Me either. To say he lacks competitiveness is a huge understatement.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yep.

And as bad as RW was with the Lakers he found another team pretty quickly.

Yeah, RW's problem was more about fit and not being able to/knowing how to adjust than anything else.

As bad as he was, the effort was still there every time he was on the floor. Can't say the same about Harden.

 

[DJ]

Yeah, RW's problem was more about fit and not being able to/knowing how to adjust than anything else.

As bad as he was, the effort was still there every time he was on the floor. Can't say the same about Harden.

Exactly...

 

[shopson67]

Math is hard.

Yeah....0% is worse than 15.3%.

9 misses from a role player vs 11 from your "star" though