2023 offseason thread

[DJ Fieri]

 

[dtgold88]

Already got Allen and garland on big deals.

Maxing out Mobley and Mitchell explodes their cap

They had Lebron, Kyrie and Love on max deals and gave a near max to Thompson....also nice deals to JR and Shumpert.

IF we can at least be a legit ECF team I think Gilbert will spend whatever he's allowed.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

If I'm reading correctly he can get more if he waits until he hits FA than if he signs during the season?

Not sure the Cavs would wait without knowing to make sure we get something if he leaves.....also after Boozer (though different owner) not sure they'd take a players word.

I never like Boozer after that.

Deandre Jordan, Derek Fisher level fuckery.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

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He got a haircut!!!!!

 

[dtgold88]

Good thing Gilbert is rich as fuck BUT if they aren’t contending by the time Mobley gets paid there will be changes

I think as long as a legit ECF contender he'll spend what he can.

 

[dtgold88]

Allen will be moved when Mobley really starts to come into his own.

I don't think that's a lock as by that time he'll be on a very reasonable deal.

 

[The Q]

Allen will be moved when Mobley really starts to come into his own.

Yes. But that still means the rules are hurting CLE…

 

[The Q]

They had Lebron, Kyrie and Love on max deals and gave a near max to Thompson....also nice deals to JR and Shumpert.

IF we can at least be a legit ECF team I think Gilbert will spend whatever he's allowed.

But he won’t be able to make some of the moves to add those guys this time around…

 

[DJ Fieri]

He got a haircut!!!!!

The wife did it....Taylor was mad....LOL.

 

[dtgold88]

Yes.

If he extends, it’s at 5/270 mil.

If he waits until he is a UFA with 10 years, it’s 5/ 372.

Why in GAWDS name would he extend, unless it’s a 1 + 1 AFTER THE SEASON to get a raise and still be eligible to get the 5/372?

If understanding right he can he get the 5-372 if he signs the 1 plus 1 but only after he can be a FA after the initial year of that?

If so, a bit of a risk for the Cavs.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

It’s more just 3 max deals plus a 20m contract is gonna put you in a tight spot

They have tradable deals, Allen especially.

I remember thinking the Knicks overpaid for Brunson.

Even without the ridiculous salaries this year, he was worth every penny.

Wrap your mind around the fact that Allen makes less than Dillon Brooks.

Of the Dudes who got the 20 mil per bag who would you take in order:

Bruce Brown, Josh Hart, Dillon Brooks?

I love Bruce.

But, Hart, Brown……just leave the roster spot open.

Fuck Dillon Brooks.

 

[dtgold88]

I never like Boozer after that.

Deandre Jordan, Derek Fisher level fuckery.

Not just because he did it to us I think what he did was even worse. He doesn't even get to be a FA without lying to the Cavs.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

If understanding right he can he get the 5-372 if he signs the 1 plus 1 but only after he can be a FA after the initial year of that?

If so, a bit of a risk for the Cavs.

Yes, exactly.

You get why he would want to be unrestricted.

But, would you have the stomach to wait it out is the question.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Little man is the loudest....that is tough when his 9yo sister and 7yo brother are loud too.

 

[dtgold88]

But he won’t be able to make some of the moves to add those guys this time around…

Don't need to add as Allen already signed. Or are you saying wont be able to max the others?

Seems like will be different tax issues they didn't have then.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Gotta be a winner to justify this.

I don’t mean a chip.

But, 2nd round Conference Finals at least.

The difference between extending him and letting him hit free agency is over $100 million.



Once Mitchell plays out the final year of his existing contract, he will hit the ten-year mark in the NBA, which makes him eligible to sign an extension for as much as 35% of Cleveland’s salary cap. Assuming things increase to the expected amount salary-cap-wise, Mitchell could sign a five-year, $267.5 million extension with the Cavaliers during the 2026-27 season. Things can escalate even further if Mitchell elects to enter free agency, where he is eligible to sign with Cleveland on a five-year, $372 million deal. Sure, other teams could sign him to a shorter contract, but if Mitchell could earn as much as $63.5 million in one season alone with the Cavaliers, that should be on the table.

Damn. Might not look bad at that time. Mitchell will also be 30 at that time. A long time away but Mobley will also be on his first big contract as well.
Projected cap is $156M
Garland $42M
Mobley $35M
Mitchell $63M

Those 3 guys taking up $140M of $156M. They better be fighting for a championship to justify that

 

[dtgold88]

Yes, exactly.

You get why he would want to be unrestricted.

But, would you have the stomach to wait it out is the question.

Could only hope the Cavs really trust the guy he will sign as I doubt they'd let it get that far without him saying he would.

Of course, as you alluded, you wont be sure until he signs that 5 year deal.

 

[fightinfunbags]

They have tradable deals, Allen especially.

I remember thinking the Knicks overpaid for Brunson.

Even without the ridiculous salaries this year, he was worth every penny.

Wrap your mind around the fact that Allen makes less than Dillon Brooks.

Of the Dudes who got the 20 mil per bag who would you take in order:

Bruce Brown, Josh Hart, Dillon Brooks?

I love Bruce.

But, Hart, Brown……just leave the roster spot open.

Fuck Dillon Brooks.

I feel really uncomfortable now stepping out on value. I don’t think FVV is worth what he got. I’ve seen dude in playoffs w/o Kawhi and I don’t think he can be a first or second option for a winner. I think he can stat stuff on a bad to mediocre team in that role. Or I don’t know value anymore.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Not just because he did it to us I think what he did was even worse. He doesn't even get to be a FA without lying to the Cavs.

Yep.

Bitch got them to let him loose because he was going to sign a new deal with the Cavs.

What’s funny is he could have had a better career had he stuck with Lebron.

Lebron made JJ Hickson, Boobie Gibson look like fringe all stars some nights.

He definitely could’ve made things easier for Boozer.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Damn. Might not look bad at that time. Mitchell will also be 30 at that time. A long time away but Mobley will also be on his first big contract as well.
Projected cap is $156M
Garland $42M
Mobley $35M
Mitchell $63M

Those 3 guys taking up $140M of $156M. They better be fighting for a championship to justify that

Yep.