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I watched the Draymond podcast where he mentioned Ben Simmons still has all his skills, but he lost all confidence. It got me thinking about teams that could recover him. I completely understand that no team is going to want to take him, especially at that salary, but which teams stand the best chance to get him back to who he was?

Warriors are the first that come mind, but I can't see Draymond making a year before he snaps and destroys any forward progress.

I would pick Thunder, but that runs the risk of him destroying the team over them helping him up. However, They have Chip Engelland and no pressure to play him. So hypothetically in 2 months they send Bertans and Olidipo to the Nets for Simmons and picks. He spends a year doing nothing but learning to shoot from the greatest shooting coach in history with no pressure or expectation. Then next year...is he old Ben Simmons again?

I personally would not gamble 80 million over 2 years for an outside shot that Simmons is recoverable, but they idea keeps bouncing around since the Draymond quote. Am I missing a better possible team on this?
 

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I watched the Draymond podcast where he mentioned Ben Simmons still has all his skills, but he lost all confidence. It got me thinking about teams that could recover him. I completely understand that no team is going to want to take him, especially at that salary, but which teams stand the best chance to get him back to who he was?

Warriors are the first that come mind, but I can't see Draymond making a year before he snaps and destroys any forward progress.

I would pick Thunder, but that runs the risk of him destroying the team over them helping him up. However, They have Chip Engelland and no pressure to play him. So hypothetically in 2 months they send Bertans and Olidipo to the Nets for Simmons and picks. He spends a year doing nothing but learning to shoot from the greatest shooting coach in history with no pressure or expectation. Then next year...is he old Ben Simmons again?

I personally would not gamble 80 million over 2 years for an outside shot that Simmons is recoverable, but they idea keeps bouncing around since the Draymond quote. Am I missing a better possible team on this?

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  • A league source tells Himmelsbach that the Celtics remain intent on bringing back Malcolm Brogdon after discussing him in trade talks earlier in the offseason. Himmelsbach’s source adds that Jaylen Brown‘s super-max extension should be finalized “in the coming days.”
  • Dalano Banton, who agreed to sign a two-year contract with Boston, is expected to join the team’s Las Vegas Summer League roster, tweets Himmelsbach.
  • Echoing an earlier report from Chris Haynes that said the Celtics were among the teams to reach out to the Trail Blazers to inquire about the price for Damian Lillard, ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne stated on NBA Today (YouTube link) that Boston has “expressed some interest” in the star guard. Shelburne and ESPN colleague Zach Lowe stressed that the Celtics are not on Lillard’s wish list, but point out that a package of Brogdon, Robert Williams, and several first-round picks and swaps could be compelling. The C’s have given San Antonio first-round swap rights in 2028, but their future first-rounders are otherwise unencumbered.
  • A Celtics star forward would be in favor of a deal for Lillard, ESPN’s Marc J. Spears said during a TV appearance over the weekend. “I’m hearing Jayson Tatum is knocking on that door now too to figure out a way to get (Lillard) to come to Boston,” Spears said, according to Brian Robb of MassLive.com.
 

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I watched the Draymond podcast where he mentioned Ben Simmons still has all his skills, but he lost all confidence. It got me thinking about teams that could recover him. I completely understand that no team is going to want to take him, especially at that salary, but which teams stand the best chance to get him back to who he was?

Warriors are the first that come mind, but I can't see Draymond making a year before he snaps and destroys any forward progress.

I would pick Thunder, but that runs the risk of him destroying the team over them helping him up. However, They have Chip Engelland and no pressure to play him. So hypothetically in 2 months they send Bertans and Olidipo to the Nets for Simmons and picks. He spends a year doing nothing but learning to shoot from the greatest shooting coach in history with no pressure or expectation. Then next year...is he old Ben Simmons again?

I personally would not gamble 80 million over 2 years for an outside shot that Simmons is recoverable, but they idea keeps bouncing around since the Draymond quote. Am I missing a better possible team on this?
For some reason....the Blazers come to mind.

I think Scoot and Simmons would make them a really good passing team...a lot of ball movement.
 

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  • A league source tells Himmelsbach that the Celtics remain intent on bringing back Malcolm Brogdon after discussing him in trade talks earlier in the offseason. Himmelsbach’s source adds that Jaylen Brown‘s super-max extension should be finalized “in the coming days.”
  • Dalano Banton, who agreed to sign a two-year contract with Boston, is expected to join the team’s Las Vegas Summer League roster, tweets Himmelsbach.
  • Echoing an earlier report from Chris Haynes that said the Celtics were among the teams to reach out to the Trail Blazers to inquire about the price for Damian Lillard, ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne stated on NBA Today (YouTube link) that Boston has “expressed some interest” in the star guard. Shelburne and ESPN colleague Zach Lowe stressed that the Celtics are not on Lillard’s wish list, but point out that a package of Brogdon, Robert Williams, and several first-round picks and swaps could be compelling. The C’s have given San Antonio first-round swap rights in 2028, but their future first-rounders are otherwise unencumbered.
  • A Celtics star forward would be in favor of a deal for Lillard, ESPN’s Marc J. Spears said during a TV appearance over the weekend. “I’m hearing Jayson Tatum is knocking on that door now too to figure out a way to get (Lillard) to come to Boston,” Spears said, according to Brian Robb of MassLive.com.
Brog, Rob and 1st rounders aren't getting it done....LOL.
 

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For some reason....the Blazers come to mind.

I think Scoot and Simmons would make them a really good passing team...a lot of ball movement.
Maybe my view is skewed based on the Blazers history, but I don't see it. I am open to that being an issue to my bias over reality though.

I also think he would need to go somewhere where they are cool with him taking 40 million and not contributing for a year. That is the tallest obstacle to overcome I think.
 

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I watched the Draymond podcast where he mentioned Ben Simmons still has all his skills, but he lost all confidence. It got me thinking about teams that could recover him. I completely understand that no team is going to want to take him, especially at that salary, but which teams stand the best chance to get him back to who he was?

Warriors are the first that come mind, but I can't see Draymond making a year before he snaps and destroys any forward progress.

I would pick Thunder, but that runs the risk of him destroying the team over them helping him up. However, They have Chip Engelland and no pressure to play him. So hypothetically in 2 months they send Bertans and Olidipo to the Nets for Simmons and picks. He spends a year doing nothing but learning to shoot from the greatest shooting coach in history with no pressure or expectation. Then next year...is he old Ben Simmons again?

I personally would not gamble 80 million over 2 years for an outside shot that Simmons is recoverable, but they idea keeps bouncing around since the Draymond quote. Am I missing a better possible team on this?

Draymond has a personal relationship with Simmons.

He would be invested in helping him turn it around.

Of course, in order for the Warriors to get Simmons, they would need to move salary. Draymond would be the most logical piece to move, and I highly doubt the Dubs would do that.
 

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Draymond has a personal relationship with Simmons.

He would be invested in helping him turn it around.

Of course, in order for the Warriors to get Simmons, they would need to move salary. Draymond would be the most logical piece to move, and I highly doubt the Dubs would do that.
Agreed on this. I think it is clear that this is a wasted thought process. The ask that it would take a team to even attempt a fix is too great. If he crumbled as quick as Fultz before the mega extension he could maybe be recovered, but never as a max extension.
 
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