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Cowherd just said that a 3 team trade between the Knicks, Lakers and Jazz is being discussed.

Apparently...

Knicks get Donovan Mitchell.

Lakers get Pat Bev and 1 of Jordan Clarkson, Bojan Bogdanovich or Malik Beasley.

Jazz get Westbrook (whothey likely buy out and bunch of draft picks.

Ooops...looks like @wildturkey beat me to it.
 

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Whoever wrote that tweet really sucks at clickbait and generating interest. The actual rumor is MUCH more interesting than "Lakers have interest in Cam Reddish"

The rumor is a potential 3 team trade between the Knicks, Lakers, and Jazz.

Knicks get: Donovan Mitchell
Lakers get: Two of this grouping (PatBev, Malik Beasley, Jordan Clarkson, Bojan Bogdanovic) and Cam Reddish
Jazz get: Russell Westbrook (to be moved elsewhere later or bought out), draft compensation from both LA and NY (Derrick Rose might have to be involved going somewhere as well for salary reasons)

Love Clarkson...but I think the Lakers would be better off with one of the other 3. Clarkson is a career 34% from the 3...the other 3 are around 40% from 3.
 

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I saw that rumor and what are the Knicks giving up? Only picks? Well that can’t happen. Reddish and Rose aren’t 75% of Mitchell’s salary + they wouldn’t have the cap space for DM

Salary filler. You can make a few different combos if you use Rose, Fornier, or Randle and pair them up with some of the Knicks younger players (like Toppin, Quickley, etc). Most of the Knicks outgoing package would be picks though.
 

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Love Clarkson...but I think the Lakers would be better off with one of the other 3. Clarkson is a career 34% from the 3...the other 3 are around 40% from 3.

Bogdanovic, if healthy, is someone I've always thought is like the ideal player to put next to Lebron.

But I'm ify on the trade. If Kyrie is 100% not an option, I think I'd rather have Hield/Turner from the Pacers instead of 2 of those Jazz players and Reddish. The benefit to the Jazz trade is it sounds like they can get away with giving up one 1st round pick (and a few 2nds) as opposed to 2 1st rounds picks for the Pacers deal. Either way, I'm still waiting out as long as I can for Kyrie.
 

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Bogdanovic, if healthy, is someone I've always thought is like the ideal player to put next to Lebron.

But I'm ify on the trade. If Kyrie is 100% not an option, I think I'd rather have Hield/Turner from the Pacers instead of 2 of those Jazz players and Reddish. The benefit to the Jazz trade is it sounds like they can get away with giving up one 1st round pick (and a few 2nds) as opposed to 2 1st rounds picks for the Pacers deal. Either way, I'm still waiting out as long as I can for Kyrie.

I agree to a point.

I'm good with waiting until they know that Kyrie is 100% not an option...but I wouldn't want to miss out on this or Hield/Turner waiting on Kyrie.
 

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I'm not the biggest Draymond fan, but it's funny how delusional people are about a 1990's team (even the Bulls) being able to hang with the 2017 Warriors. The 1996 or 1998 Bulls would have 5 (maybe 6) guys who are playable against the 2017 Warriors. Rules (such as handchecking and zone or no zone) don't matter. It's the pace and space that matters. Age would also matter in this hypothetical matchup. The 2017 Warriors are a lot younger.


As great as Jordan was, this roster ain't getting it done.

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I'm not the biggest Draymond fan, but it's funny how delusional people are about a 1990's team (even the Bulls) being able to hang with the 2017 Warriors. The 1996 Bulls would have 5 (maybe 6) guys who are playable against the 2017 Warriors.

The 96 Bulls say hold our beer.
 

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I'm not the biggest Draymond fan, but it's funny how delusional people are about a 1990's team (even the Bulls) being able to hang with the 2017 Warriors. The 1996 Bulls would have 5 (maybe 6) guys who are playable against the 2017 Warriors. Rules (such as handchecking and zone or no zone) don't matter. It's the pace and space that matters.


As great as Jordan was, this roster ain't getting it done.

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Draymond is right that it's dumb to compare eras, but he doesn't go far enough into why it's dumb.

If the game(s) are played under today's rules...the Warriors win.

If the game(s) are played under 90's rules...the Bulls win.

That's why comparing eras is dumb.

The Warriors are built to win in todays NBA, the Bulls were built to win in the 90's NBA.
 

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Draymond is right that it's dumb to compare eras, but he doesn't go far enough into why it's dumb.

If the game(s) are played under today's rules...the Warriors win.

If the game(s) are played under 90's rules...the Bulls win.

That's why comparing eras is dumb.

The Warriors are built to win in todays NBA, the Bulls were built to win in the 90's NBA.

And you can go even farther than that. The 1990's Bulls were built to defend against '90s teams. They weren't built to defend against guys that can shoot like Curry, Klay, and Durant. They weren't built to defend so much space. Curry requires defending once he crosses the half court line. It's unfair to throw the 1996 Bulls against today's teams.

The bench of the 1996 Bulls was largely built to absorb fouls and to bang with the dominant big men of those days like Ewing and Shaq.
 

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Draymond is right that it's dumb to compare eras, but he doesn't go far enough into why it's dumb.

If the game(s) are played under today's rules...the Warriors win.

If the game(s) are played under 90's rules...the Bulls win.

That's why comparing eras is dumb.

The Warriors are built to win in todays NBA, the Bulls were built to win in the 90's NBA.
Makes sense except for one thing, the goat had a time capsule.
 

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And you can go even farther than that. The 1990's Bulls were built to defend against '90s teams. They weren't built to defend against guys that can shoot like Curry, Klay, and Durant. They weren't built to defend so much space. Curry requires defending once he crosses the half court line. It's unfair to throw the 1996 Bulls against today's teams.

The bench of the 1996 Bulls was largely built to absorb fouls and to bang with the dominant big men of those days like Ewing and Shaq.

Agree. The Bulls have the kind of size at guard and on the wings that gives the Warriors trouble today...but they were built to play a more physical, slower paced game. The Warriors constant motion would have the Bulls putside of maybe MJ and Pippen, pretty gassed.

By the same token, the Warriors aren't built for the physicality of the 90's. So, under 90's rules, the Bulls would wear the Warriors down by beating on them.
 

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Apparently some don’t realize it’s still illegal at the federal level. Either that or he is just stupid, could be both I guess.
 

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Apparently some don’t realize it’s still illegal at the federal level. Either that or he is just stupid, could be both I guess.
6 ounces isn't a trivial amount. It isn't even legal for personal possession here in Michigan-I believe 3 oz is the personal limit here. Though, he could be a licensed provider; I don't know his life.
But it is Texas, it isn't legal, though under 2 oz is a misdemeanor.
 

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Going to Bob Evans restaurant with the wife tonight.

1st time ever eating there.
 

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Going to Bob Evans restaurant with the wife tonight.

1st time ever eating there.
I've only ever eaten there once.
I think there is a reason.
 

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Going to Bob Evans restaurant with the wife tonight.

1st time ever eating there.
I love Bob Evans. Great breakfast place in Ohio, we always have to go back when we visit
 

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I've only ever eaten there once.
I think there is a reason.
Last time I went was a couple years ago, I dont think their portions are big compared to what I thought when I was just a kid but I never had a bad experience and food was always good. What location?
 
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