2022 NBA Offseason thread

[WiggyRuss]

The weather is great, but if you want to pay 3x monthly to live on a fault line and deal with annual droughts, wild fires and traffic that's your call. I love the sports teams and the weather, but my choice to live in Cali would be San Diego (as I did for about 5 months), and even that is beyond my means most likely.

State taxes and cost of living are just insane in California.

The top state tax right in California is now 13.3%. That is just bonkers.

Sales tax rate is actually pretty high too at 7.25% which is high.

I have not been out there in a while now- but its a great place to visit. But there is a mass exodus out of California right now.

the crime in the cities is out of control due to the DA's that have been voted in. I saw in SF they finally recalled the one DA. All these CVS/Walgreens are shutting down since anything under $900 the police dont even care about. You see all these videos of people just goign into stores and just stealing stuff. Its unbelievable.

 

[WiggyRuss]

GMs do.

Making a trade and getting a return that is perceived to be below market is how they get fired.

Not at the time of the trade.

 

[WiggyRuss]

NBA Trade Value List: Summer 2022 Edition

The Top 64​

Group L: Quality Starters​

64. Draymond Green
63. OG Anunoby
62. Deandre Ayton
61. Jarrett Allen
60. Fred VanVleet
59. DeMar DeRozan
58. Domantas Sabonis

Group K: The Upside Gang​

57. Tyrese Haliburton
56. Tyrese Maxey
55. Herb Jones
54. Jaren Jackson Jr.
53. RJ Barrett
52. Franz Wagner
51. Josh Giddey

Group J: The Ginobilis (Playoff Guys)​

50. Tyler Herro
49. Jordan Poole
48. Desmond Bane
47. Marcus Smart
46. Jalen Brunson
45. Andrew Wiggins
44. Mikal Bridges

Group I: The Westbrooks (Regular-Season Guys)​

43. Bradley Beal
42. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
41. Jaden Ivey
40. Dejounte Murray

Group H: “Sorry, He’s Worth More to Us Than to You”​

39. Chris Paul
38. Damian Lillard
37. Khris Middleton
36. Jamal Murray
35. LeBron James
34. Donovan Mitchell

Group G: “Too Young, Too Cheap, Too Good … Please Stop Calling Us”​

33. LaMelo Ball
32. Jabari Smith Jr.
31. Jalen Green
30. Darius Garland
29. Chet Holmgren
28. Paolo Banchero

Group F: “If You Tell Woj, I’ll Deny It to the Death … but I’m Listening”​

27. Zach LaVine
26. Pascal Siakam
25. Rudy Gobert
24. Karl-Anthony Towns
23. Kawhi Leonard
22. Zion Williamson

Group E: “Lemme Save You Some Time: N-O”​

21. Brandon Ingram
20. Jrue Holiday
19. Jaylen Brown
18. Bam Adebayo

Group D: True Franchise Guys​

17. Trae Young
16. Scottie Barnes
15. Cade Cunningham
14. Paul George
13. Jimmy Butler
12. Anthony Davis
11. Devin Booker

Group C: “We’re Not Trading Him (but Make Us an Offer)”​

10. Kevin Durant

Group B: The Untouchables​

9. Evan Mobley
8. Anthony Edwards
7. Jayson Tatum
6. Joel Embiid
5. Ja Morant

Group A: Completely and Utterly Untouchable​

4. Steph Curry
3. Nikola Jokic
2. Luka Doncic
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo

Pretty fair list- id make a couple changes- but overall pretty good.

Mobley is going to be scary sooner than later.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Seems a bit ridiculous to me, you either help your team or you don’t. F what others think.

I totally agree. You dont judge a trade when its made. You judge a trade on how it works out.

A lot of people killed the Pacers for trading George for Oladipo and Sabonis- and not taking a buunch of picks, etc.- but it turned out to be a good decision.

if any GM has a deal they like but they dont do it because of public perception they should not be a GM since they are not cut out for the job.

 

[thunderc]

I totally agree. You dont judge a trade when its made. You judge a trade on how it works out.

A lot of people killed the Pacers for trading George for Oladipo and Sabonis- and not taking a buunch of picks, etc.- but it turned out to be a good decision.

if any GM has a deal they like but they dont do it because of public perception they should not be a GM since they are not cut out for the job.

Exactly right, and they aren’t the GM in the first place if they aren’t allowed to do their job. It’s just understood that their job depends on their performance.

 

[tlance]

Not at the time of the trade.

Not immediately, no.

But after assembling the most underwhelming super team ever, how long you think Sean Marks lasts if he fails to return as much for KD as Utah got for Rudy freaking Gobert.

Probably going to be the next guy making the picks you return.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

People can take all their criticism about Los Angeles and shove it straight up their asshole.

Fuck Los Angeles.

You don't even live there yourself....lol

I love California.

Grew up in LA.

It's a fucking cesspool.

 

[Black Adam]

Fuck Los Angeles.

You don't even live there yourself....lol

I love California.

Grew up in LA.

It's a fucking cesspool.

Excuse you...?!

I still live out here, damnit...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

KD would give MJ the work and Giannis would as well. I think a lot of the top guys today can. They have the length to give him trouble offensively

Absolutely.

For the same reason MJ would beat Ja.

Significant height advantage.

I'm one of those people who romanticize Jordan's career.

The further away we get from his playing days, the larger he seems historically.

Jordan was a great defender.

But, he's not checking a 7 footer.

Fuq outta here....lol

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Excuse you...?!

I still live out here, damnit...

What City?

Because, that shit matters.

LA County >>>>>>>>>>> LA City.

When I say I grew up in LA, I really mean LA.

Imperial and Western across from South West College.

Some people say LA as a generalization and they actually live in Long Beach, Northridge, West Covina, Walnut, Downey, Burbank.

 

[Black Adam]

What City?

Because, that shit matters.

LA County >>>>>>>>>>> LA City.

When I say I grew up in LA, I really mean LA.

Imperial and Western across from South West College.

Some people say LA as a generalization and they actually live in Long Beach, Northridge, West Covina, Walnut, Downey, Burbank.

Long Beach now. Been here for about a month and a half. Came up outta South Central, and of course spent a chunk in Ingle-hood(Morningside High School, class of '74). Before I got to my recent I was in Torrance for nearly 30 years...

You're right, though. Some parts are better than others. Course I think you can say that for darn near anywhere...

 

[trojanfan12]

State taxes and cost of living are just insane in California.

The top state tax right in California is now 13.3%. That is just bonkers.

Sales tax rate is actually pretty high too at 7.25% which is high.

I have not been out there in a while now- but its a great place to visit. But there is a mass exodus out of California right now.

the crime in the cities is out of control due to the DA's that have been voted in. I saw in SF they finally recalled the one DA. All these CVS/Walgreens are shutting down since anything under $900 the police dont even care about. You see all these videos of people just goign into stores and just stealing stuff. Its unbelievable.

There is currently a recall being put together to recall LA's DA as well. If memory serves, I heard last week that they already have the signatures to get it on a ballot.

I'm hoping that it's the start of folks coming to their senses...but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Retroram52]

Here ya go DJ. An update. Word is Las Vegas is headed to a mass exodus and water rationing to come. There is just no more water.

AP PHOTOS: Extremely low levels at Lake Mead amid drought

Its epitaph might read: Here lay the waters of Lake Mead. Receding waters of Lake Mead National Recreation Area have revealed the skeletal remains of two people along with countless desiccated fish and what has become a graveyard of forgotten and stranded watercraft.

www.yahoo.com

 

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[bksballer89]

Yep no secret

 

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[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Long Beach now. Been here for about a month and a half. Came up outta South Central, and of course spent a chunk in Ingle-hood(Morningside High School, class of '74). Before I got to my recent I was in Torrance for nearly 30 years...

You're right, though. Some parts are better than others. Course I think you can say that for darn near anywhere...

Torrance.

I still have a ton of relatives that live there.

My GAWD, I used to get pulled over every other block driving thru there in the 90's....lol

Concede on there being pockets of good and bad everywhere.

But, the cost of living is insane.

The congestion, traffic is unbearable.

If I ever moved back, it would be to the Inland Empire.

But, its ridiculous there too.

I have a house in Rancho that my Mom lives in and she was looking to downsize.

We started looking at places and a 2bd 2 BA in a area that's not completely disgusting was 3100 a month.

My fucking mortgage is less than that and my house is across the street from Victoria Gardens.

 

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