2021 NBA regular season thread

[dtgold88]

From where I sit the Pelicans wirh Zion instead of Davis look pretty damn good, don’t see them reversing that deal.

Not sure they could have worked things out but they could have had both.

 

[dtgold88]

was watching more of the draft. Flipped to Cavs some. Not sure if he was being defiant or just not forcing anything. Did have 10 rebounds in only 22 minutes.

 

[dtgold88]

Lol @DMC diss on Cleveland...

Guess wasn't listening that closely...what'd he say?

 

[thunderc]

Not sure they could have worked things out but they could have had both.

Not if getting Zion was an nba conspiracy lol

 

[Wamu]

So Jeannie Buss has put a list together of the 5 most important Lakers of all time.

KAJ, Kobe, LeBron, Magic & Phil (????). Calling bullshit on this list. No way in hell is Phil more important to the Lakers than the late Dr. Buss. Odd his own daughter doesn't know that.

 

[tlance]

So Jeannie Buss has put a list together of the 5 most important Lakers of all time.

KAJ, Kobe, LeBron, Magic & Phil (????). Calling bullshit on this list. No way in hell is Phil more important to the Lakers than the late Dr. Buss. Odd his own daughter doesn't know that.

She might be a tad biased there.

 

[Wamu]

She might be a tad biased there.

Just a little bit.

 

[dtgold88]

Not if getting Zion was an nba conspiracy lol

Someone say it was?

 

[trojanfan12]

So Jeannie Buss has put a list together of the 5 most important Lakers of all time.

KAJ, Kobe, LeBron, Magic & Phil (????). Calling bullshit on this list. No way in hell is Phil more important to the Lakers than the late Dr. Buss. Odd his own daughter doesn't know that.

Meh, considering the history of the Lakers, I'm not sure how you name just 5.

You can go all the way back to George Mikan who was the first dominant big man in what would become a legacy of dominant bigs that stretches all the way to today.

Then owner Bob Short was the one who moved them to Los Angeles.

Jack Kent Cooke built The Fabulous Forum and delivered their first title in Los Angeles.

Dr. Jerry Buss turned them into arguably the NBA's most glamorous team if not it's most important.

Bill Sharman coached them to their first title in Los Angeles.

Even though he was an announcer, Chick Hearn is very important in Lakers history. He actually had a sizeable role in Pat Riley becoming a coach. He also did much of the early leg work in promoting the team when they first got to Los Angeles.

Pat Riley was responsible for 5 titles as was Phil Jackson.

You could argue that Jerry West was as important, if not more important to them as an executive than as a player. Mitch Kupchak was definitely more important as an executive than as a player.

How about Jeanie herself?

That's all before you get to players...the aforementioned Mikan and West. Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some folks too. How do you pick just 5 out of all of that?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

She only mentioned lebron because he is there now

 

[trojanfan12]

She only mentioned lebron because he is there now

True. But considering where the franchise was when Lebron decided to come to LA, it does make him kind of important as well. Especially when you consider the FA's that had turned them down over the previous few years.

But yeah, there are definitely more than 5 others who would/should be listed ahead of him.

 

[trojanfan12]

Not sure they could have worked things out but they could have had both.

Doubtful. With AD, I doubt they finish with a bad enough record to have a shot at winning the lottery.

 

[Wamu]

Meh, considering the history of the Lakers, I'm not sure how you name just 5.

You can go all the way back to George Mikan who was the first dominant big man in what would become a legacy of dominant bigs that stretches all the way to today.

Then owner Bob Short was the one who moved them to Los Angeles.

Jack Kent Cooke built The Fabulous Forum and delivered their first title in Los Angeles.

Dr. Jerry Buss turned them into arguably the NBA's most glamorous team if not it's most important.

Bill Sharman coached them to their first title in Los Angeles.

Even though he was an announcer, Chick Hearn is very important in Lakers history. He actually had a sizeable role in Pat Riley becoming a coach. He also did much of the early leg work in promoting the team when they first got to Los Angeles.

Pat Riley was responsible for 5 titles as was Phil Jackson.

You could argue that Jerry West was as important, if not more important to them as an executive than as a player. Mitch Kupchak was definitely more important as an executive than as a player.

How about Jeanie herself?

That's all before you get to players...the aforementioned Mikan and West. Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some folks too. How do you pick just 5 out of all of that?

I agree. Trying to only pick 5 is next to impossible. But Phil shouldn't be one of the first 4 or 5 mentioned. One question though. Riley & 5, thought Paul Westhead was the Lakers HC went they won it all in '80? Too lazy to look up when Riley's first year as HC of the Lakers was.

 

[dtgold88]

Doubtful. With AD, I doubt they finish with a bad enough record to have a shot at winning the lottery.

This is true...I was referring to after the season if they decided to work things out and keep him (or just play hard ball). Not saying this was gonna happen, only as part of this hypothetical.

 

[Wamu]

This is true...I was referring to after the season if they decided to work things out and keep him (or just play hard ball). Not saying this was gonna happen, only as part of this hypothetical.

You following the Browns picks? If so how you like them? Saw about 15 minutes ago they took a DT outta Ohio State. Always like it when our team drafts Buckeyes.

 

[dtgold88]

You following the Browns picks? If so how you like them? Saw about 15 minutes ago they took a DT outta Ohio State. Always like it when our team drafts Buckeyes.

I say this as one who can admit as a fan I don't know and can only go by what we are told.....but seem like solid picks. Picked for need and also no headscratchers.

 

[Wamu]

I say this as one who can admit as a fan I don't know and can only go by what we are told.....but seem like solid picks. Picked for need and also no headscratchers.

Just don't take anyone from ann arbor.

 

[trojanfan12]

I agree. Trying to only pick 5 is next to impossible. But Phil shouldn't be one of the first 4 or 5 mentioned. One question though. Riley & 5, thought Paul Westhead was the Lakers HC went they won it all in '80? Too lazy to look up when Riley's first year as HC of the Lakers was.

Yeah, that's technically correct. People, myself included, tend to forget about that because of how it all got started.

They started the season with Jack McKinney as the HC. It was McKinney who installed the offense that became known as "Showtime". McKinney was actually hired by Dr. Buss to put in a running offense.

McKinney suffered a near fatal head injury in a bicycling accident 13 games into the season. Paul Westhead, who was McKinney's assistant, took over. Pat Riley, who was Chick Hearn's color commentator on Lakers broadcasts stepped in as assistant coach. Then Riley took over the next season when Westhead was fired.

So, Riley had 5 titles, 4 as HC and 1 as an AC.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I say this as one who can admit as a fan I don't know and can only go by what we are told.....but seem like solid picks. Picked for need and also no headscratchers.

Loved the draft for the first 4 rounds. Round 5 been so so. Even though Wade is a Homer pick would've preferred him as he can play inside slot as opposed to the more traditional safety. The ILB pick pretty much means they are turning the LB crew over completely imo. Mack is done and so is either Malcolm or Tataki imo

 

[Wamu]

Yeah, that's technically correct. People, myself included, tend to forget about that because of how it all got started.

They started the season with Jack McKinney as the HC. It was McKinney who installed the offense that became known as "Showtime". McKinney was actually hired by Dr. Buss to put in a running offense.

McKinney suffered a near fatal head injury in a bicycling accident 13 games into the season. Paul Westhead, who was McKinney's assistant, took over. Pat Riley, who was Chick Hearn's color commentator on Lakers broadcasts stepped in as assistant coach. Then Riley took over the next season when Westhead was fired.

So, Riley had 5 titles, 4 as HC and 1 as an AC.

Obviously HC's get credit for winning titles. First time I've ever seen someone say an AC gets the same credit as the HC though.

Does that mean Tex Winter gets the same credit for the Bulls 6 rings that the Zen Master gets?

Bucks coach Mike Budenholzer was a Spurs assistant for 4 of their titles. He gets the same credit as Pop?

Think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this topic. I can't give an AC the same credit as a HC.