2021-2022 NBA Season

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Truce?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Was going to type Seth.

But, felt like I would be trolling.

Luke Kennard.

But, he's mine!!!!!!!!

That trade is still pretty ridiculous in hindsight. I like Bey and all but 4 2nd round picks?!?!?

 

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Again, he still may have been trying to save Lebron from his own stupid. The only player they could trade that had any chance of having any real impact was to hope some team looking at a rebuild got desperate enough to trade something substantial for him and such a team never materialized. Anything else would have resulted in nothing more than rearranging the furniture and may have mortgaged even more of the future.

And why is anyone trusting that fucking Rich Paul and Lebron are telling the truth here? They've shown on multiple occasions that they will do or say whatever they have to in order to get what they want.

Why are we trusting Klutch?

Uh, fuck those guys....lol

I think they are all probably a bunch of liars.

But, we know Pelinka is.

I don't think he was trying to help LeBron save face at all.

I think he was trying to do so for himself.

This is a lesson for all the GM's out there...

When you let the inmates run the asylum, the first time you put your foot down, they turn on you.

There is zero chance LeBron was onboard with being a playin team.

Zero.

So, Pelinka should not have said that.

Still, Klutch is full of shit for trying to use it to justify the fuckery that they caused.

 

[trojanfan12]

Pelinka's already been caught outright lying once. Kobe never had dinner with Heath Ledger. Why make something like that up in the first place? His credibility is questionable.

And Klutch and Lebron are known for dealing openly and honestly?

Way too much has been made of the Heath Ledger thing.

Also, according to Kobe, Pelinka didn't intentionally lie.

Kobe Bryant finally explains Rob Pelinka's curious story about the Lakers legend's dinner with Heath Ledger

It turns out Kobe didn't actually meet with Ledger after the actor's death

www.cbssports.com

 

[fightinfunbags]

Why are we trusting Klutch?

Uh, fuck those guys....lol

I think they are all probably a bunch of liars.

But, we know Pelinka is.

I don't think he was trying to help LeBron save face at all.

I think he was trying to do so for himself.

This is a lesson for all the GM's out there...

When you let the inmates run the asylum, the first time you put your foot down, they turn on you.

In principle I agree but in practice that’s coming with nearly every GM role in the league. You do well and you get good. Your players get better and gain leverage. They will be a big piece of future decision making. It’s just something that comes with the job in the modern day.

 

[trojanfan12]

But, we know Pelinka is.

Do we? Check the article in post #15,184 with Kobe's explanation.

Or maybe Kobe was lying to cover for Pelinka and unlike Lebron, Pelinka was smart enough to keep his mouth shut?

 

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And Klutch and Lebron are known for dealing openly and honestly?

Way too much has been made of the Heath Ledger thing.

Also, according to Kobe, Pelinka didn't intentionally lie.

Kobe Bryant finally explains Rob Pelinka's curious story about the Lakers legend's dinner with Heath Ledger

It turns out Kobe didn't actually meet with Ledger after the actor's death

www.cbssports.com

Both things can be true.

Pelinka is being used as a scapegoat.

Only Lebronsexuals believe Klutch has no culpability.

I honestly suspect that LeBron uses guys like Kendrick Perkins to put shit out there for him.

I remember laughing a fee weeks back when he suggested LeBron would leave.

Not so funny now.

Klutch is a bunch of manipulative, duplicit dicks.

 

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Do we? Check the article in post #15,184 with Kobe's explanation.

Or maybe Kobe was lying to cover for Pelinka and unlike Lebron, Pelinka was smart enough to keep his mouth shut?

Yeah.

He lied.

Did Kobe have dinner with Heath?

Did Kobe tell Rob he had dinner with Heath?

The guy had been DEAD for 6 months before the movie came out.

The motherfucker actually said he set up the dinner.

There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube on this.


“There was one time when Kobe, who I worked with for 18 years, was going back to play in Madison Square Garden, and he had just seen ‘The Dark Knight,'” Pelinka told the team. “Obviously, you guys saw that movie, and he’s like, ‘Hey, hook me up with dinner with Heath Ledger, because he got so locked into that role. I want to know how he mentally went there.’ So, he had dinner with Heath, and he talked about how he locks in for a role.

“And Kobe used some of that in his game against the Knicks.”

 

[trojanfan12]

Why are we trusting Klutch?

Uh, fuck those guys....lol

I think they are all probably a bunch of liars.

But, we know Pelinka is.

I don't think he was trying to help LeBron save face at all.

I think he was trying to do so for himself.

This is a lesson for all the GM's out there...

When you let the inmates run the asylum, the first time you put your foot down, they turn on you.

There is zero chance LeBron was onboard with being a playin team.

Zero.

So, Pelinka should not have said that.

Still, Klutch is full of shit for trying to use it to justify the fuckery that they caused.

I would agree if they were healthy all season and had the same result...but they weren't. Lebron was wanting a trade done and the best he could come up with was stupid.

Would you really put it past Klutch to not be completely truthful? Especially since their goal is to protect their comany and Lebron's rep.

Maybe the disagreement was over the Wall trade, but Klutch understood that no other trade that made sense was available either?

You don't trade just to trade and say you "did something".

 

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I would agree if they were healthy all season and had the same result...but they weren't. Lebron was wanting a trade done and the best he could come up with was stupid.

Would you really put it past Klutch to not be completely truthful? Especially since their goal is to protect their comany and Lebron's rep.

Maybe the disagreement was over the Wall trade, but Klutch understood that no other trade that made sense was available either?

You don't trade just to trade and say you "did something".

Oh, I totally agree with all of this.

My point is Lebron's camp is latching on to the Pelinka is a liar angle to force the guy to submit or to justify leaving.

I'm not at all condoning their fuckery.

I'm only saying I don't believe LeBron was okay standing pat and that Rob should not have said so.

LeBron is in a prison of his own making.

 

[Wamu]

And Klutch and Lebron are known for dealing openly and honestly?

Way too much has been made of the Heath Ledger thing.

Also, according to Kobe, Pelinka didn't intentionally lie.

Kobe Bryant finally explains Rob Pelinka's curious story about the Lakers legend's dinner with Heath Ledger

It turns out Kobe didn't actually meet with Ledger after the actor's death

www.cbssports.com

Those dumbasses at Klutch have nothing to do with Pelinka's recent statement.

Have people at Klutch lied about things in the past? I'm sure they have.

 

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In principle I agree but in practice that’s coming with nearly every GM role in the league. You do well and you get good. Your players get better and gain leverage. They will be a big piece of future decision making. It’s just something that comes with the job in the modern day.

Absolutely.

But, Klutch is a different animal.

They want teams to submit completely.

Those that don't....

* See Miami Heat.

The Lakers have always been the kinda Organization that caters to stars. But, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back.



Unfortunately for you, Harden is sort of the same way.

He wanted Paul, until he didn't.

He wanted Westbrook, until he didn't.

He wanted Brooklyn, until he didn't.

In fairness, I would have wanted out of Brooklyn too.

Fuck Kyrie.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Absolutely.

But, Klutch is a different animal.

They want teams to submit completely.

Those that don't....

* See Miami Heat.

The Lakers have always been the kinda Organization that caters to stars. But, the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back.



Unfortunately for you, Harden is sort of the same way.

He wanted Paul, until he didn't.

He wanted Westbrook, until he didn't.

He wanted Brooklyn, until he didn't.

You don’t have to tell me about Klutch. I lived through Ben Simmons being able to chase Jimmy Butler away and then declaring he won’t play with 4 years left on his max deal.

 

[Heatles84]

Have you been under a rock?

Details, please. I haven't been paying attention to Juwan Howard prior to yesterday's incident.

 

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You don’t have to tell me about Klutch. I lived through Ben Simmons being able to chase Jimmy Butler away and then declaring he won’t play with 4 years left on his max deal.

They are a bunch of fucking snakes.

As much as Kawhi's preferential treatment was a chemistry issue, Harrell and his Klutch ties were a chemistry killer.

At least they can't mess with you about Maxey.

You control his fate.

 

[Heatles84]

Both things can be true.

Pelinka is being used as a scapegoat.

Only Lebronsexuals believe Klutch has no culpability.

I honestly suspect that LeBron uses guys like Kendrick Perkins to put shit out there for him.

I remember laughing a fee weeks back when he suggested LeBron would leave.

Not so funny now.

Klutch is a bunch of manipulative, duplicit dicks.

Both sides are definitely not telling the truth.

 

[dtgold88]

Yep.

I mean, he did need a guard to get the rebound off his bricked FT (as he just walked away) for him and he pushed off...but still a nice dunk.

 

[dtgold88]

I'm not convinced Pelinka is the one lying...and if he is, it may have been an attempt to save Lebron from his own stupidity since I can't think of anyone other than Lebron who thought Wall for Westbrook and a first was a good idea.

Cannot say I miss the drama that follows Lebron.

 

[trojanfan12]

Oh, I totally agree with all of this.

My point is Lebron's camp is latching on to the Pelinka is a liar angle to force the guy to submit or to justify leaving.

I'm not at all condoning their fuckery.

I'm only saying I don't believe LeBron was okay standing pat and that Rob should not have said so.

LeBron is in a prison of his own making.

I don't think Lebron was good with standing pat, I also don't think Pelinka was either. I think Klutch came up with the idiotic Wall trade and Pelinka said no. I also think there was no other trade available that made sense.

I think that maybe Pelinka should have said that Lebron accepted that there was nothing to be done that made sense. After all, he, like the Lakers, had no choice but to accept it.

Then, as you say, Lebron and Klutch decided to paint him as a liar so they can try to either force something on him in the off-season (or try to force Jeanie to fire him so Klutch can try to pick the GM) or as an exit strategy if those don't work.

 

[trojanfan12]

Those dumbasses at Klutch have nothing to do with Pelinka's recent statement.

You're kidding, right?