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I mean, he did need a guard to get the rebound off his bricked FT (as he just walked away) for him and he pushed off...but still a nice dunk.
He was shooting the foul shot. Unlikely because of the rules to rebound that shot. And he didn’t push off. That’s a ridiculous take. He brings his right arm up to protect the ball he’s gonna dunk with his left. Embiid had 40/14/10 and Allen was cucked as a -27 that night. The full story is actually worse than him getting posterized here.
 

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What's Bronny right now? A Jr/Sr in HS?

I wouldn't waste a 1st round on Bronny just to lure Lebron to my team. Especially if Bronny's slated to be a 2nd round pick. That's a lot to give up if you're really only going to get a year of a potential 40-year old Lebron.

You wouldn’t waste a pick in the late 20s?

I damn sure would.

If my team is a star away from title contention, I can basically draft 1 year of LeBron for a late 1st who is likely to bust anyway.

Sign me up!
 

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He was shooting the foul shot. Unlikely because of the rules to rebound that shot. And he didn’t push off. That’s a ridiculous take. He brings his right arm up to protect the ball he’s gonna dunk with his left. Embiid had 40/14/10 and Allen was cucked as a -27 that night. The full story is actually worse than him getting posterized here.
He pushed off. Not saying a foul should have been called but he did push off.

Yeah, Allen was outplayed by a guy who may win MVP. Oh well.
 

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You wouldn’t waste a pick in the late 20s?

I damn sure would.

If my team is a star away from title contention, I can basically draft 1 year of LeBron for a late 1st who is likely to bust anyway.

Sign me up!
By the time that happens, you're getting Lebron for 1 year when he'll be 40. Couple with the fact that you'll have to unload your team to sign him given the salary cap, nope, I'm good.
 

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He pushed off. Not saying a foul should have been called but he did push off.

Yeah, Allen was outplayed by a guy who may win MVP. Oh well.
That’s not a push off. That happens every time a player goes to finish in traffic. One arm is there to shoot and the other arm is used to protect the ball from the defense.
 

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That’s not a push off. That happens every time a player goes to finish in traffic. One arm is there to shoot and the other arm is used to protect the ball from the defense.
It's a push off...sure, not often called.

But I do like that Allen doesn't give a crap and will still play D. Likely why he was in the game late and Jokic was not.
 

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By the time that happens, you're getting Lebron for 1 year when he'll be 40. Couple with the fact that you'll have to unload your team to sign him given the salary cap, nope, I'm good.
See, after I draft Brony I tell LeBron all I have for him is the vet minimum because of his age. Why offer more? Cause etiquette says you offer that guy more? Fuck that. You have unique leverage. You own the rights to Brony and his stated desire is to play with him. Cool. That can only happen in one place dude. Vet minimum.
 

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Not taken out of context at all. He was trying to say how little stats mean and his biased eye test means more.

That isn’t what he said.

The gist of his argument is basically the same as one we have had.

Stats don’t effectively capture defense. And if 1 player is far better defensively, that won’t always show in the stats.

Embiid is a good deal better than Jokic defensively. I happen to think Jokic is better offensively and that is why his stats trend better.

Is the difference in defense between the 2 great enough to account for the gap in offensive stat production?

I don’t know. I think it is close.
 

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It's a push off...sure, not often called.

But I do like that Allen doesn't give a crap and will still play D.
Not often? Try never. It’s not a push off. The position of the arm and contact doesn’t result in an auto call. He gains no position. He doesn’t illegally force Allen off of his position. It’s not a push off. You’re just pulling a stanky homer take from your ass to mask the fact that Allen doesn’t belong on the floor with Embiid.
 

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By the time that happens, you're getting Lebron for 1 year when he'll be 40. Couple with the fact that you'll have to unload your team to sign him given the salary cap, nope, I'm good.

He said $ wouldn’t matter at that point.

Obviously would have to be some type of unofficial agreement in place before the pick is made.
 

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That isn’t what he said.

The gist of his argument is basically the same as one we have had.

Stats don’t effectively capture defense. And if 1 player is far better defensively, that won’t always show in the stats.

Embiid is a good deal better than Jokic defensively. I happen to think Jokic is better offensively and that is why his stats trend better.

Is the difference in defense between the 2 great enough to account for the gap in offensive stat production?

I don’t know. I think it is close.
not what he said and he's been all over the place.

But I agree with you here (other than thinking he was not all over the place).
 

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Not often? Try never. It’s not a push off. The position of the arm and contact doesn’t result in an auto call. He gains no position. He doesn’t illegally force Allen off of his position. It’s not a push off. You’re just pulling a stanky homer take from your ass to mask the fact that Allen doesn’t belong on the floor with Embiid.
oh, the irony.
 

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oh, the irony.
The irony of you alluding to a conversation from two days ago you’re belaboring being pretty much exactly the shot I called in a post yesterday?
 

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as you keep it going (along with 2-3 others)?

More irony.
I’ve expressly not engaged in that since my post yesterday. Your comment was an attempt to keep it going (a shot I called yesterday).
 

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MVP talk.

So the leaders last time I saw are Jokic, Giannis & Embiid. Heard the other day if they all finish in the top 3 it'll be the first time in league history 1-2-3 were all foreign.
 

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