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Seemed like it took him half a season to get anything going though this year.
He openly admitted he came in out of shape after the Olympics. He’s also been adjusting to Kidd’s defensive schemes. He’s in basketball shape now. Night in & out, his defense has been excellent. And the last couple of weeks… he has been an absolute beast.
 

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He’s a great player. But the other guy is a great player at both ends of the floor.

So you dont think jokic can make a valid case for mvp? As i said weeks ago, embiid is the slight leader currently but this isn't a slam dunk as you love to try and make it seem
 

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If Embiid and Jokic play the rest of the year it’s one of them, I think they have definitely separated themselves.
 

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Jokic and Embiid are basically dead even.

They were last year too.

Jokic got it last year because he played more games. Embiid will probably get it this year because Jokic got it last.

But pretending like it was an open and shut case last year barring Embiid injury is not fair to Jokic. He is a spectacular player who has had 2 great, MVP level seasons in a row.

This is my biggest issue. Those making it seem like an open and shut case. Embiid can be your man but it is a very close race
 

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If Embiid and Jokic play the rest of the year it’s one of them, I think they have definitely separated themselves.

This i almost agree with but luka can sneak in. End up with 50+ wins and a top 4 seed and he got a case to make
 

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So you dont think jokic can make a valid case for mvp? As i said weeks ago, embiid is the slight leader currently but this isn't a slam dunk as you love to try and make it seem
If Embiid stays healthy it’s him. And yeah, I always have the same comment on the Embiid/Jokic comparison. You have two elite offensive players who have different game and different ways to control their team’s offense. But when you shift discussion to the defensive end of the floor the comparison gets pretty damn wide. Where I see what you’re saying is that the MVP has traditionally been an award that skews to offense. I place a higher value on two way play. That’s why a few years back I was Giannis > Harden in the MVP race. When you have two great offensive players I think you look defense. Embiid vs Jokic defensively isn’t even a debate.
 

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If Embiid stays healthy it’s him. And yeah, I always have the same comment on the Embiid/Jokic comparison. You have two elite offensive players who have different game and different ways to control their team’s offense. But when you shift discussion to the defensive end of the floor the comparison gets pretty damn wide. Where I see what you’re saying is that the MVP has traditionally been an award that skews to offense. I place a higher value on two way play. That’s why a few years back I was Giannis > Harden in the MVP race. When you have two great offensive players I think you look defense. Embiid vs Jokic defensively isn’t even a debate.

Honestly?

Jokic vs Embiid offensively isn’t much of a debate either.

Embiid is great.

Jokic is better.
 

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Honestly?

Jokic vs Embiid offensively isn’t much of a debate either.

Embiid is great.

Jokic is better.
I disagree. I just think they’re different in the way they attack at that end. But either way, that gap you speak of can’t be that vast and nowhere near the gap that exists between the two defensively.
 

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I disagree. I just think they’re different in the way they attack at that end. But either way, that gap you speak of can’t be that vast and nowhere near the gap that exists between the two defensively.
Put them on the floor against each other at both ends is how I look at it. Embiid wins.
 

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Put them on the floor against each other at both ends is how I look at it. Embiid wins.

Are you sure?

Hard to say really.

As the only 3 times the 2 teams have faced each other last 2 seasons, Jokic has played and Embiid has been in street clothes.

I want to see them head up. But it isn’t Jokic’s fault that we haven’t. He played all 3 games.

Advantage Jokic.
 

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Are you sure?

Hard to say really.

As the only 3 times the 2 teams have faced each other last 2 seasons, Jokic has played and Embiid has been in street clothes.

I want to see them head up. But it isn’t Jokic’s fault that we haven’t. He played all 3 games.

Advantage Jokic.
My money is on Embiid, and I like Jokic
 
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