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tlance

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But that is not correct. This is beyond the outcome. People should be responsible for making mistakes, it’s different for every occupation but if you compare to brain surgery that person is dead bc of a mistake that someone rarely makes. This never happens, we’ve never seen it. No call MAKES up for it. The crew is responsible and they should see a consquence for their actions. It is a tough job but there are a lot of tough jobs, doesn’t excuse the clear and blatant missed call.
We should see a suspension and that isn’t over the top. It comes with the occupation.

And I wouldn’t be opposed to that.

I have always said refs who don’t make the grade shouldn’t keep their jobs.

I will always refuse to evaluate an official based on his/her worst call though. Look at the entire body of work. And if they can’t hack it, they should be gone.
 

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What are you disagreeing with?

He asked me to speculate on how they got it impossibly wrong.

That is what I did.
They weren’t paying attention, they made a quick trigger call. Then they discussed it which was good but they decided to stay with their quick trigger call instead of reviewing it. So they made a chain reaction group of mistakes instead of following the correct process. Technically, some jobs you would be fired for this kind of mistake, depending on what job.
All they had to do was look at video to confirm the correct call. That isn’t difficult.
 

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I will say I haven’t been a huge fan of LeVert but he could be finally getting back to form. From sources he plays good with Allen too, so that is a plus. I just think giving up Sexton in this deal would be tough idk, maybe I am just low on LeVert. Great scorer and it’s what they need but idk. I guess you don’t need Sexton AND LeVert. I would honestly rather them give up 2 1st’s and then still have Sexton as a trade asset or even another threar off the bench
Agreed. I would assess the Sexton asset to be more valuable than the LeVert asset. Again, as dtgold pointed out, the focus should be and likely is on 2-3 years from now and not this season. No reason to knee jerk to add to a squad that likely isn’t ready to close on a title.
 

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Oh what Davis did was way outta line. Have never seen a player on the bench do something like that. And he is probably deserving of something- fine or missed games. But you can't have bench players ever doing stuff like that. WTF was he thinking?
Yeah fine with the T. Players shouldn’t be on the court or touching players even after the dead ball
 

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They weren’t paying attention, they made a quick trigger call. Then they discussed it which was good but they decided to stay with their quick trigger call instead of reviewing it. So they made a chain reaction group of mistakes instead of following the correct process. Technically, some jobs you would be fired for this kind of mistake, depending on what job.
All they had to do was look at video to confirm the correct call. That isn’t difficult.

Are they allowed to look at the video at that stage of the game without an official challenge though?

Cleveland had used their challenge a few possessions earlier on the Love charge.

I am not sure about the rules on that, but I am guessing they weren’t allowed to look without a challenge.
 

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I agree. Never said the calls were the same level of bad.

The Cavs won the game. That is all that matters.

If you are asking me to speculate?

The guy who blew the call dead was not the same guy who saw the contact on the shooter. That guy didn’t know when the contact occurred.

The guy who saw the contact somehow missed that it was a good bit after the whistle.

Terrible call, but one of those situations where 2 refs are putting together a puzzle where neither has all the pieces. And they misconstrued the timeline of events.
I can agree that would excuse the guy who made the call on the bench....but the guy who blew it dead had to know the other whistle/call came well after his.
 

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Nope.

Try again.

That is not what I did at all.

I said the normal bad calls that happen every game canceled out the impact of this 1 particularly bad call. And your team still won.
Yes...as I said.....you tried to explain it away by saying normal bad calls (which were iffy, at best) cancelled out a call like none of us had ever seen
 

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I will say I haven’t been a huge fan of LeVert but he could be finally getting back to form. From sources he plays good with Allen too, so that is a plus. I just think giving up Sexton in this deal would be tough idk, maybe I am just low on LeVert. Great scorer and it’s what they need but idk. I guess you don’t need Sexton AND LeVert. I would honestly rather them give up 2 1st’s and then still have Sexton as a trade asset or even another threar off the bench
I'm definitely not sure but fortunately I trust the FO to make the right decision.
 

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Yes...as I said.....you tried to explain it away by saying normal bad calls (which were iffy, at best) cancelled out a call like none of us had ever seen

Again?

Not what I did.

Your team won anyway. That is all that really matters.
 

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Agreed. I would assess the Sexton asset to be more valuable than the LeVert asset. Again, as dtgold pointed out, the focus should be and likely is on 2-3 years from now and not this season. No reason to knee jerk to add to a squad that likely isn’t ready to close on a title.
Right....now if they want to add someone to help this year for the Rubio contract something for picks, etc? I'm sure they are looking at that.
 

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Anyone gonna watch Carolina/dook tonight? It's Coach Kruzawooooski's final game at the Dean Dome.
 

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What are you disagreeing with?

He asked me to speculate on how they got it impossibly wrong.

That is what I did.
well, you did that and also tried to say it was cancelled out by the type of calls (or non-calls) we see every game. Never mind it's at best questionable that those were not correct calls. No question this one was not.
 

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Are they allowed to look at the video at that stage of the game without an official challenge though?

Cleveland had used their challenge a few possessions earlier on the Love charge.

I am not sure about the rules on that, but I am guessing they weren’t allowed to look without a challenge.
I also don't think they were allowed to look but also not sure how that works. They can review, say, whether something is flagrant or not at any time. Not sure this fell under anything reviewable.
 

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Again?

Not what I did.

Your team won anyway. That is all that really matters.
yes, again, and is exactly what you did.

Agree a good thing we are not discussing this after a loss.
 

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Are they allowed to look at the video at that stage of the game without an official challenge though?

Cleveland had used their challenge a few possessions earlier on the Love charge.

I am not sure about the rules on that, but I am guessing they weren’t allowed to look without a challenge.

I just want to know what on earth the ref who called Wade out of bounds 10 seconds before the incident was doing during this discussion
 
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