2021-2022 NBA Season

[shopson67]

You just had him as the centerpiece in a deal for Grant.

...to make the money work. He isn't that different in terms of a prospect as Grant was early on really.

 

[trojanfan12]

You just had him as the centerpiece in a deal for Grant.

Did you not read the part where I said that they likely can't get that deal done because another team is likely to offer a similar package with a young player with higher upside and that Pelinka would have to pull out his best sales pitch to convince the Pistons on the trade? Or did you just choose to ignore it because it disproves your narrative?

So again, who, specifically, is overvaluing THT?

 

[thunderc]

The Lakers don’t have any young core assets.

Yes Kuzma playing like he is would have certainly qualified

 

[shopson67]

People need to get off the "Lakers fans" bs.

As @shopson67 said teams like the Lakers draw a lot of casual/bandwagon fans. If you're reading about some ridiculous trade possibility, it's almost guaranteed to be someone who is a casual fan. Either that, or it's some "journalist" looking for click bait because they know people will read it and react.

The trade suggestions on Bleacher Report are ridiculous regardless of team affiliation, lol.

 

[trojanfan12]

The trade suggestions on Bleacher Report are ridiculous regardless of team affiliation, lol.

Part of why I don't read Bleacher Report much. lol

 

[shopson67]

Yes Kuzma playing like he is would have certainly qualified

Yet everyone outside of Laker fans hated on Kuzma for most of his time in LA, hmmmm.

 

[shopson67]

Part of why I don't read Bleacher Report much. lol

It's worth it just to read the comments blasting all the trade suggestions, lol.

 

[thunderc]

Yet everyone outside of Laker fans hated on Kuzma for most of his time in LA, hmmmm.

Well he sure never played like he is at the moment

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yes Kuzma playing like he is would have certainly qualified

Kid is averaging almost 26ppg and like 11rpg the last 11 games. But, he is replacement player value. LOL.

 

[trojanfan12]

Well he sure never played like he is at the moment

Actually, he did, but it was inconsistent largely because his role was hugely scaled back with the additions of Lebron and AD.

 

[shopson67]

Well he sure never played like he is at the moment

It's all about opportunity and role. Those who watch the team consistently see the upside, those who don't shit on it.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Actually, he did, but it was inconsistent largely because his role was hugely scaled back with the additions of Lebron and AD.

Yep.

 

[thunderc]

It's all about opportunity and role. Those who watch the team consistently see the upside, those who don't shit on it.

Well I think the kid had some huge maturity issues as well, it’s possible getting traded helped a little with those.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

People need to get off the "Lakers fans" bs.

As @shopson67 said teams like the Lakers draw a lot of casual/bandwagon fans. If you're reading about some ridiculous trade possibility, it's almost guaranteed to be someone who is a casual fan. Either that, or it's some "journalist" looking for click bait because they know people will read it and react.

Don't disagree. I think shopson summed it up well

To be fair I didn't actually think the Lakers would make the Westbrook deal and yet they did...for better or worse. I just cringe each time we hear about LA and first round picks.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Actually, he did, but it was inconsistent largely because his role was hugely scaled back with the additions of Lebron and AD.

He never figured out how to fit in.

 

[trojanfan12]

Well I think the kid had some huge maturity issues as well, it’s possible getting traded helped a little with those.

Yeah, to be fair though, I don't think there has been a Lakers player from the group of kids they had whose role changed more drastically than Kuzma's.

I do agree though, that some of it was his own maturity as well.

 

[shopson67]

Well I think the kid had some huge maturity issues as well, it’s possible getting traded helped a little with those.

His overall stats for the year aren't much different from last year's with the Lakers. More rebounds (no competition from AD and Lebron) and more assists (again, Lebron effect), but his shooting percentages are roughly the same with a couple more shots per game on averagte.

 

[trojanfan12]

Don't disagree. I think shopson summed it up well

To be fair I didn't actually think the Lakers would make the Westbrook deal and yet they did...for better or worse. I just cringe each time we hear about LA and first round picks.

I didn't think they would either. But, apparently he and Lebron are friends and Lebron thinks he can get him a ring. So....here we are. lol

 

[Stakesarehigh]

...to make the money work. He isn't that different in terms of a prospect as Grant was early on really.

Don't fully disagree but expecting that kind of trajectory isn't likely on detroits end. Everyone thought Detroit was nuts when they signed Grant for 20 mil as it is.

I fully expect detroit to trade him given the money he is wanting though

 

[fightinfunbags]

Did you not read the part where I said that they likely can't get that deal done because another team is likely to offer a similar package with a young player with higher upside and that Pelinka would have to pull out his best sales pitch to convince the Pistons on the trade? Or did you just choose to ignore it because it disproves your narrative?

So again, who, specifically, is overvaluing THT?

I think even floating that is overvaluing THT.