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tlance

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Well, it isn't like he can't play......the Rockets are sitting him.

LOL.

Still.

If he were still a good player somebody would have traded for him and he wouldn’t be sitting.
 

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Well, it isn't like he can't play......the Rockets are sitting him.

LOL.

Yeah, it's that he can't play well.

There's a reason that the only trade that it looks like was seriously discussed was for Westbrook.
 

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Funny thing about jokic is if he was like Embiid and not passing the ball as frequently then he would also avg 30 plus ppg. He is more efficient and doesn't shoot as much because he is too busy being the point center
 

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Funny thing about jokic is if he was like Embiid and not passing the ball as frequently then he would also avg 30 plus ppg. He is more efficient and doesn't shoot as much because he is too busy being the point center

Has has often been criticized by Mike Malone for not shooting the ball enough.
 

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Funny thing about jokic is if he was like Embiid and not passing the ball as frequently then he would also avg 30 plus ppg. He is more efficient and doesn't shoot as much because he is too busy being the point center
He can’t do what Embiid can do. He has never had to play out of double teams because of the way he passes. He just doesn’t get doubled. Embiid takes 2 more shots per game (19.5 to 17.5)
 

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He can’t do what Embiid can do. He has never had to play out of double teams because of the way he passes. He just doesn’t get doubled. Embiid takes 2 more shots per game (19.5 to 17.5)

So…

You are saying Embiid should pass more then.

Got it!

Not being able to double an elite scorer because he passes too well is a reason for Jokic’s greatness.
 

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So…

You are saying Embiid should pass more then.

Got it!

Not being able to double an elite scorer because he passes too well is a reason for Jokic’s greatness.
Embiid has improved tremendously playing out of double teams. Who said Jokic wasn’t great? He’s first team NBA and the second best 5 in the league. But he can’t do what Joel Embiid can do.
 

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So…

You are saying Embiid should pass more then.

Got it!

Not being able to double an elite scorer because he passes too well is a reason for Jokic’s greatness.
Also why would any team double a 5 at the 3 point line? Like 1/3 of all his assists come from dribble hand offs.
 

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Also why would any team double a 5 at the 3 point line? Like 1/3 of all his assists come from dribble hand offs.

You are the one who said Jokic isn’t doubled.

That isn’t true, but I was sarcastically responding to what you wrote.
 

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Embiid has improved tremendously playing out of double teams. Who said Jokic wasn’t great? He’s first team NBA and the second best 5 in the league. But he can’t do what Joel Embiid can do.

And Embiid can’t do what Jokic can do.

They are different players with different skill sets. Both elite.
 

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And Embiid can’t do what Jokic can do.

They are different players with different skill sets. Both elite.
Correct. Embiid would be wasting a skill set that is a merger between Hakeem’s athleticism and grace and Shaq’s force and power. He was never forced to develop that game like Jokic in order to etch a place for himself in the league.
 

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Correct. Embiid would be wasting a skill set that is a merger between Hakeem’s athleticism and grace and Shaq’s force and power. He was never forced to develop that game like Jokic in order to etch a place for himself in the league.

Dude.

You can say that you think Embiid is better without continually putting Jokic down.

Etch a place for himself in the league?

Cmon man. That is something you say about a role player hanging on to a roster spot.

Just because YOU (Philly homer) believes that Embiid is hands down the better player doesn’t make it so.

The reality is that they are both elite and both in the conversation for most impactful player in the league along with Giannis and KD.

The difference is splitting hairs. The case for best player is not the open and shut case that is has been for most of the past 15 years.
 
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